21 outs actually if you switch the 7 of clubs for a blank, and give the villain an underpair or unpaired high cards.

There's so many good ones...

"I always raise 85 of hearts because my daughter was born in 1985 and she's my heart"

I've been berated for folding a crap hand UTG and also for not straddling after dragging two consecutive pots - "you must not be very good at poker if you don't know that you have to play your rush - that's an automatic straddle."

I think low-limit LHE really breeds them - the majority of the players not only have no problem making bad plays, a lot of them are convinced that the ENTIRE REASON that you play LHE as opposed to NLHE is that bad plays are OK to make. people use "it's limit" to justify bad calls just as they use "it's poker" to justify bad beats.

but my favorite - I'm playing with some dude for about an hour, we're chatting it up, having a good time - and he actually seemed like a half-decent LAG-ish player...we go through two hispanic male dealers - finally an asian woman comes over to relieve the second guy. This dude IMMEDIATELY starts racking his chips with a facial expression that looks like he's about to be busted by the Feds and says "oh HELL no." I ask him what's wrong, and is he leaving. He immediately is like "I'm out of here man, I can't NEVER win with a Chinese dealer (I am pretty certain that dealer was definitely not chinese BTW)."

Cash game starting up right after a tourney concluded, and as they're taking their seats one guy says "I want position on this guy" and proceeds to sit on his target's right.

fyp.

On a similar note, I overheard a young player near me tell his rail buddies that he likes playing rags, because if everyone else plays high cards, the deck will be more low-rich.

Another case of blackjack=poker syndrome.

You can have even more than that on the flop or turn. ex

9 10 10

Hero: Q J
Villain: 6 6

= 23 outs

6 7 8 8

Hero: A 9
Villain: 3 3

= 26 outs

This is true. I just realized that using a similar board to above, you can have up to 24 outs on the flop.

6 7 7

Hero: 8 9
Villain: 3 3

I overestimated by one. You have to exclude the 3 of hearts because opponent makes a full house, so it's 23 outs.

You consider this advanced?

Well, despite my awesome B- performance in my Business Statistics 101 class I'm still at a loss to know why said statement is true.

Wow I am not sure what I would have done if it was me. My range is laughing at the guy to coming right across the table at him.

I am really not sure....

I taught English for a while in Korea and at least 1 out of every 4 people that asked me about it said something about "So how was your time in China?" When I would point out that I was in Korea they would say "right" and sort of roll their eyes as thought I was just splitting hairs.

Please keep in mind this story took place in a native american casino with at least half of the workers being native american along with 30% of the patrons.

I was playing 2/4 shorthanded with a table that consisted of a lagtard, a calling station, a friend who is a very good player, me and a fairly passive fish. I had played with the passive fish for a good hour or so before this hand and he seemed very upset with one dealer and used a word that I was not familiar with but assumed was a native american slur. "Every time she sits down I lose chips." I thought he was at least half kidding. Anyway...
Lagtard opens under the gun, calling station folds, my friend 3-bets and I look down at AA and 4 bet it. Passive fish calls, lagtard folds, my friend calls and I call. Flop comes down xxx. I bet, passive fish calls, my friend folds. Turn comes x. I bet he raises (this goes on for a bit on the turn and river. He eventually (after putting in at least 6 or 7 bets) mutters something about I can't believe that bitch did it to me again and calls.

I turn over the nuts. He turns over AxK and angrily picks up his remaining chips and leaves for about 30 seconds and comes back screaming. "Why the hell do you do this to me every single time? What did I ever do to you you *native american slur* bitch?" The dealer responds by simply saying "I don't even shuffle the cards." (There is an auto-shuffler). He replies "Yeah, well, you cut the cards don't you?!" and then stormed away as though he just won the argument.

I got odds I have to call... one particular guy who is a huge calling station

Sometimes players are ready to leave. They have a friend or spouse or they're talking to someone on the phone telling them they're going to leave. They say "let me play my blinds and then I'll pick up and leave".

WTF?

I think some people think it rude to leave before letting the blinds pass. Maybe -ev, but not that absurd. Also, its a good excuse to play a little longer when the significant other wants you to leave a good game!

I never understood this just play to your blinds and go

plus if you play tight seeing the blinds gets you a chance to play trash and hope you hit a concealed two pair and stack something or something similar...

The one I often hear is, "let me play my button and leave. I never really understood the point of that either. Especially in a limit game, I'd prefer to see as many free hands as possible, and leave utg.

Agreed, I don't get it. I saw it again on Friday night. Guy A says the same thing to a friend (Guy B) at the table. The Guy B was about to leave in MP (again, I don't know why) and the Guy A says "let me just play by blinds!" Guy A says "yeah sure" and sits down. This was in limit game and they both clearly knew how to play.

i see nothing wrong with playing to your button then leaving, but at least play the button maybe the CO... some think its bad form to leave utg especially if your taking a large stack off the table.

Are you guys serious?

Let me stay and play the blinds because I want to play the hands where I have the worst position and am forced to put money in the pot before I see my cards. That's not absurd?

Then I'll leave just before I get best position and get to see my cards and everyone else act before I have to decide whether or not to enter the pot. That's not absurd?

You guys play online, right? Do you have poker tracker? Look at your position stats. What's your win rate out of the blinds? After 40K hands mine are -.16 BB/100 from the Big Blind and -.11 BB/100 from the Small Blind. My overall win rate is +.01 BB/100.

The guys are just doing it because they feel it is the polite thing to do. No one is arguing that the positions are bad.

I didn't know that PokerPro tables did that. I hate that they do that, keep the fish in the dark.

I think the point being made is that nobody considers Business Statistics 101 to be an advanced class.

I hope this is what you guys are talking about:

Before the flop everyone is dealt cards right? Before you even look at your cards every unseen card has a 4/52 = 1/13 chance of being a Q. Now you look at your cards. You have more information now - say you don't have a Q. Now every unseen card has a 4/50 = 2/25 chance of being a Q. Now comes the flop and you have even more information. 2 queens come on the flop. Now every unseen card has a 2/47 chance of being a Q. 2/47 <<< 1/13.

Do you understand now? What you know affects the probability of what you don't know.

This doesn't seem that absurd to me. It sounds like Player B wanted to leave the decision up to player C and reduce variance. Think about it - if he just calls and player C shoves and then player B loses, he'll have only 5k and probably won't make the money with the blinds hitting him soon. Depending on the blinds, there might have already been 10k+ in the pot. I'm not saying that I agree with player B's decision, but I think there is a fair argument for him to make the play he made. Let's say he had QQ instead. What should he do then? Shove, call, or fold?