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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
Agreed! I want players to underestimate me. I don't want to give anyone a clue that I know what I'm doing, in fact I cultivate an image that is very different from how I play.
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No one needs to know that I study 10 hours a week, play online seven days a week and play a lot of speculative hands.
I remember a live tournament where there was an all-in, the cards were turned up and someone said to the guy with the worst hand, "You're three and a half percent to win." I checked when I got home and the exact percentage was 3.7. If I see that guy at the table again, I'll know that he's a serious player who runs equities and he's probably pretty good.
You do NOT want other players to know things like that about you.
I know this was directed at me but I actually agree with you. I don't advertise this information anymore. Conversation in question happened during my first two hours of live play. I made lots of mistakes.
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Originally Posted by psujohn
Even with bad eyesight I can tell the difference between 35 and 55 across the table. If you know you have trouble seeing and hearing bet sizes though you really should get in the habit of verbalizing your action. If you say "call" and then put out 55 the dealer gives you change rather than lighting $70 on fire.
One room I play in does this and it's terrible for any non obvious bet amount. If the guy throws in a green sure I don't need you to tell me that it's $25 but when there's a stack of red chips and I'm going to call I need to know if it's $30 or $35 and often I can't tell because players don't cut their chips properly.
Bad eyesight is relative. My nearsightedness and astigmatism cannot be fully corrected even with a brand new prescription. I'm 20/60 at best, and my prescription is a couple years old so probably closer to 20/100 now. Also colorblind. It's not my fault I can't see the bet amount. If other players want to get impatient that's fine, but I'm confirming the bet if I can't see it. I try to sit in seat 5 or if not there then 1, 9, 4, or 6, but sometimes people won't switch with me and I can't see jack **** across the table. I mean I can see somebody threw out some chips, but is it five, seven, ten? Beats me. Especially when they mix the green and red chips. Three chips could be $15 or $40 or $55 or $75, so I can't just say "call" because I see three chips unless I'm close enough to distinguish them. Which I usually can from seat 5.
Ironically, the most impatient players are the ones who won't switch seats with me.
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
The only charity poker room in my county (the nearest casino that deals NLHE is more than 100 miles from me) uses chips from two different sets. The $25 chips from one set and the $100 from another set are so close in color that I can't tell the difference with sunglasses on, even if the action is just a couple seats away. In fact, I once saw a dealer pick up the two different chips and look at them closely because he wasn't sure.
This is what it's always like with me, with or without sunglasses. I just ask for a count.
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Has anyone complained? Nothing is going to be done until someone asks a floor to do something. Even then, maybe nothing happens.
Just call the clock on her every time she takes more than two seconds preflop in a limped pot.
Two seconds? Seriously? Man some of you guys are impatient. I routinely take 1-3 seconds acting preflop and sometimes more for each additional street. Often the correct action is obvious and I quickly bet or fold, but other times I'm adding up the pot, calculating SPRs, etc. Since my vision sucks and there are always players who won't stack their chips properly, it can take a few seconds for me to determine this.
I get the girl in question is Hollywooding so it's not really the same thing, but calling a clock for taking 2 seconds seems insane.
This reminds me of a hand a couple nights ago I was playing in the BB in a 5-way limped pot. SB checks, I check, this young guy bets $6 into the $10 pot, everyone folds but me, and I take about 3 seconds to consider check-raising him as I think he'll often fold and I have some outs if he doesn't, and he gets flustered and says "Dude, it's $6! Come on!" so I raise him and he folds.
I do act relatively slow when I don't fold, but from my point of view I'm playing like 20% of hands and typically for much larger pots than the rest of the table. The fish slow the game down more than I do by playing 60-70% of hands, but I'm not complaining.