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yea i had other wads of cash in my pocket along with car keys a Samsung note and chips i managed to drop the most important wad...

I dunno. I've had that much (or at least a few thousand) on me a couple of times and I've never been so aware of my possessions/surroundings in my life. I think some lint could have fallen out of my pocket and I would have noticed.

Now, it's probably fair to say that anybody who doesn't see how this could happen doesn't regularly have that much money on them.

I left money in a Vegas safe too, once. That was a fun day.

As for the banning, reading the letter, it seems PBKC believes the losses were caused (to varying extent) by the OP's carelessness and actions, and that made himself a target, possibly for future incidents. They might be wondering about what/when the next incident will be, and at what point could they be held liable, or at least look bad in a lawsuit and have to settle. They're probably annoyed about everything as well, but I'd guess that's not the whole reason. If the OP was regularly dropping money at blackjack they'd work something out, maybe even assign him his own security guard, but that's not the case.

search in these forums how many times people have dropped money or misplaced items or left items at a poker room or anywhere. It happens, and I'm sorry if i carry large amounts of money, I play games that require large amounts of money to be wagered. I had horses too that i was staking which lead me to carry money for them incase i needed to reload them. I don't know whats so unreal about the amount I had.

Nothing about the amount is tough to believe. The part that's unreal is that you are so casual with a 13k wad of bills that you could drop it and not know.

Lol at comparing a 13k worth of bills to other things that people lose or misplace in s poker room

Swing and a miss

This is what I'm saying....I fully realize how much 13k is....it's 130 $100 bills, that is bulky & it weighs. I think even (especially) with sweat pants I'd feel it in my pocket.

^^^Exactly

I was disagreeing with the idea that anybody who's ever carried around a lot of cash would understand how easy it would be to misplace one of them.

I was admitting that not regularly carrying around five-figure rolls of hundreds made misplacing one of them seem more incomprehensible to me than it might actually be, though I certainly don't think it's common.

It's not

I'm not saying that dropping 13k accidently is uncommon. What I'm saying is that horrible things happen to people, this was just a horrible thing that happened to me. Its part of the story I'm not trying to hide that I dropped the money I'm not making excuses.

No, it's s thing that happens to people who are irresponsible with large sums of money. Know what else happens to these people? They get robbed at gunpoint

I just feal that the casino should have better security to protect if something like that does happen. Such as cameras in their parking lot that can identify who comes and goes from the premises. If they had a camera that could read the license plates of either time i was robbed this might be a entirely different story. If they had better cameras in there casino that took good pictures maybe the security guards working that night the guy came in would have recognized him and made an arrest.

Not once have i stated i was a angel in any of this yea i could have made a lot of different choices to protect myself but a multi-million dollar business that has inadequate security should address those concerns which I think they have actually addressed those concerns after all these incidents.

Wanna hear something weird though? This story also might have an entirely different story if you never dropped 13k in cash on a casino floor, which may have directly lead to you getting robbed.

It just seems really weird to me that you think it's the casinos fault for not being able to tell who picked it up, but you couldn't be bothered to make sure a fistful sized was of 100's didn't fall out of your pocket.

Lol. You're really bad at this

[QUOTE=ZOMG_RIGGED!;49387754]No, it's s thing that happens to people who are irresponsible with large sums of money. Know what else happens to these people? They get robbed at gunpoint.

Id rather you stop posting negative feedback on my thread. I don't understand how you can literally think that.

Idk how many countless stories of poker pros being robbed are out there. Lets see

eric riley, theo jorgenson, Jason mercier, scott montgromery, just to name a few.

Idk I'm from the Midwest I'm from northwestern iowa where we keep our doors unlocked, we are kind law biting citizens I never have lived in a area where security was an issue. So maybe I'm a little naïve . But to say that robbery one happens to irresponsible people is probably the dumbest statement posted in this thread. It happens to all sorts of people random or targeted. I have no clue what your problem is with my incident, Idk if your just some silly kid who couldn't make it poker and posts 10k times a day on two plus two and that's your grind. Idk if your just trying to battle me and try and piss me off because you have nothing better to do.

Its not a crime to carry money, i def thought the wbpkc was a safe place to carry my money especially with a guard in the parking lot. I don't know what much more to say about this As ive asked several other pros who play there they all rountinely did the same thing as me prior to this even they all carried a lot of money with them and parked in the secured parking lot with no issues for much longer then i played there. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe its just the fact that the poker room talked about me droping the money that people thought it would be easy to rob me. Either way its a unfortunate event and i wish you would stop making me out to be some irresponsible ****tard that deserves to be robbed.

Lol, hater? Hater of what? For the record, I'm a live 40/80 player pro and the only 1/2 I play uses black chips. I know exactly what 13k in cash feels like in your pocket and if you're paying even attention it's impossible to not tell it's gone.

OP gets zero sympathy from me if he's not going to take the small steps involved in a job that required you to carry large amounts of cash/chips

The cameras the casino has it in are only for gaming. They are projected to watch the tables. This guy who picked up my money was in the casino for hours. Ill post the picture they provided there employees. This guy went to their cage he smoked cigs outside their building. I think the cameras are horrid for the amount of business they do. I think its also unreal that a van was parked in there parking lot that a robbery was commited and they coulndt ID the make model or liscense plates of that van. I think things like that are unacceptable.

17 million a year in net profit they generate ive seen better security camearas at grocery stores.

i had heard that they changed all there cameras after this incident so at least i made some changes for other players....

[QUOTE=Hoosiers93;49387909] you're adorable. Never change

not asking for sympathy asking you not make such irrational comments towards the incidents that took place. I haven't been a live pro for much more then 9 months now. I admit I'm naive to the practice of carrying around large amounts of money....

What an odd thread. In it people have said this casino is full of high stakes whales and fishies, that they've never heard of robberies there before, and now we have a 'pro' letting 13k wads of cash fall out of his pants and getting held up in the parking lot.

Beginning to sound like a Dave Barry novel. If you want a hysterically funny book about Florida crooks and crazies, check out "Big Trouble" by Dave Barry.

Big Time in Hollywood, FL
its a show that aired last year about some dumb criminals in Florida.

I had never heard of anyone being robbed in a parking lot at this place. There was always a security and cops in the lot. I never thought that anyone could park in a parking lot, rob me run away on foot in front of security and then eventually nothing happen . I guess i didn't know they didn't have cameras in the parking lot that couldn't read license plates. I guess i didn't know that the security guard wasn't paying any attention to the patrons leaving the casino that night. I guess i should of taken more action to protect myself. Its really insane thou i talked to regs for years that did the same thing and nothing ever happened to them there was no known incidents that i was told of anyway that lead me to believe that pbkc was unsafe....

Surprisingly there are few stories about either players losing figures of cash on the floor or of players getting robbed at gunpoint at the casino. If you don't think these two things are probably linked you're even more naive that I thought. Careless people like you just make things more dangerous for everybody.

Don't worry, it's ok. First thing I learned when I started playing live was how to be safe with money