Really? He's never been worse. They might invite him because he's Doyle but his entertainment value has gone down the drain lately. I think like two years ago Doyle bragged that he's never had a losing session on TV. Well, hasn't he had several since then?

The game just died after Ruffin left, too bad they even showed the last episode. It was clear everyone was just content to protect their stack. If this had been a regular cash game the table would have broken soon after Ruffin left, that's for sure.

quick question, does Doyle actually know that Vanessa is not a man ??

I'm done expecting anything from HSP. This is the saddest outcome ever for a show as praised as HSP. This PAD clone is sooooo boring I fall asleep each time I watch it. I don't know that norm guy so i don't have any preconceived opinion on him but what I hear on the show and that brings me to my first opinion about him: boring. As hell. Usually wrong on any predictions, tries hard to be funny but fails and in all honestly sounds like a bad bad poker player. Overall this is disastrous for a "poker" show.

I'm not angry, just sad. Lost a nice weekly rdv, that's all.

cheers




PS GSN executives are F*&P!! of !S"*%!!!!!

No context, just thought it was funny and didn't knew BOSS sells these shirts outside of Germany.

yup, first time half way through iv wanted to stop watching a tv poker cash game..

painfull viewing

didn't even know they sold shirts like this AT ALL (after 1998).

I agree that Barry plays a little old-fashioned but have you noticed how Phil Laak plays nowadays? Bet when he has no hand, pot control when he has a hand. Always.

And what's up with those super gay segments with Kerra Skawt with the faked "american" accent and the "poker legends" part.. wth. You clearly can see where they wanna go with that show and I don't like it.

faked accent? I find the Poker Legends segment more giving that last years "did you know".

The analysis segments with Kara Scott seems to be the way pokershows are going. PAD recently added the "chatbox", that's was even more stupid. Most of the Kara-segments actually are pretty fun/interesting. The actor question gave Norm some of the best lines when they cut back to the table and it's fun to imagine Ruffin and Beal ballin' it up in some private cashgame

it's funny how often the word hate is thrown around.

Not if you know what bluff-catcher means. Seriously, it wasn't an impressive laydown. It was a good one in the sense that it was correct, but his hand is literally no different from any random pair. Chan never value bets worse and rarely bluffs in that spot.

Bring back RUFFIN!

watched an episode of hsp season 5 last night (think it was e1) and it made me realize even more how poor season 7 is. literally in the first 15 minutes of this s5 episode there was more interesting poker than in all episodes of the new season. even if it was "just" a 5figure pot between for example durrrr and degenyamine there was so much more interesting play in it compared to every 6figure pot of the new season, it's ridiculous. and concerning the commentation, i really tried to be as positive as possible to norm mcdonald as the new commentator and he isn't the biggest problem of this new hsp season as he does have some okay lines, but his voice kinda makes me wanna sleep and compared to gabe+aj or gabe on his own aswell it's really not that good. gabe obviously couldn't always think on the same level as the players, but he somehow had a decent understanding of the game and could provide some basic information about a players thought process, norm literally has no idea of how to play poker at all besides reading out who has bet how much and so on.
and obviously the biggest part is the player selection without the ftp pros on the show. the lineup on my example episode from s5 was degenyamine,eastgate,elezra,durrr,ziigmund,negrean u,doyle and barry greenstein and there were interesting hands non stop almost...if i compare that to the s7 lineup with selbst,the amateurs and so on, it's really sad how hsp has declined in quality with season 7.

Welcome to High stakes Boredom by zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..


Had Viffer a prop bet with sumone to see how he could butcher every hand, the check on the river with the 2nd nuts after the worst card coming for a amateur who obivously had a king when he re raised.u called to hit ur gut shot.. man u got to make a pot size bet perfect opportunity he might think ur bluffing just cos an ace came prob not klein but u 100% got to bet.

The limp with the aces u prob saved urself 60/70k by limping, but come on, that tactic is ok if ur 100% sure ur going to get re raised behind but at this table???
btw viffer u should have steamrolled that table but i think u made ur profit too soon and werent really bothered only for it was on tv and u gave up after ruffin .. i seen u play that game with laak and channing in the uk and u were the fkn nuts.....lol though robl winning 4k with quads...thank god

This show is dead, watch Ivey destroy the show in the 1st episode of hsp s6.... that to me was the the definition of poker greatness.

lmao at all the haters complaining about everything; Norm, who's playing, how bad they're playing, how vanessa looks like a man (ok maybe this is slightly true but lay off)... if it's SOOO unwatchable you should go watch you tube re runs while jerking off to gabes voice.

at least stop clogging this thread up with your useless whining, it's quite tilting

I also went back and watched some older seasons.

Watched Season 5 and Season 3.

Season 3 was amazing. Such a different atmosphere, new players would wander and sit down. Daniel soul reading everyone and just a more laid back group. On the new season they don't even look like they want to be there.

one of my fav poker shows and they managed to ruin it completely imo.

starting from the commentator. sorry guys can`t stand this norm "freaking hands" dude.

then the lineup.
even with ftp pros out i bet they could have made it way more interesting.

Even though im a Fan of Gabe K. i have to disagree on this one. Norm analyzed this perfectly. These guys play a lot with each other, so Viffer knows that Robl knows his UTG limping range involves a 5 for sure. So Robl is just gonna call everything else then 33, JJ, 55, 99. He might just even call with KK or QQ. By check raising he has to have the goods or a bluff.

Since Robl checks the whole board i believe its not a huge laydown by Viffer, since Viff knows that Robl knows that its a tough story to believe that Robl is selling and Viff also knows about his rep. Meaning: Viff "should" have a tough time laying down AJ or any 5 there. To me its pretty obv Robl has a FH at least.

I'm trying to be fanboi and desperately like this season but it's just too much. After episode 4 I gave up. Just watching Million dollar cash game on pokertube to ease the pain.

Did you...text this post?

how can it be "impressive" to lay down a bluff catcher in a spot where the other guy is really unlikely to be bluffing (not a ton of draw combinations, also he bet more than pot on river). whether that hand is trips or not, what youre saying just doesn't really make any sense. anyone who's able to look only at relative hand strength -- which should be pretty much any good player -- should be able to fold here without a struggle. there's no logical reason to think johnny chan is bluffing there anywhere near 1/3 of the time

there's no sense in thinking that having trips somehow makes it impressive when relative hand strength is the only thing that matters. sometimes trips are just as much of a bluff catcher as 2nd pair

Norm is certainly improving, obviously not actual hand analysis but some of his zingers this week were gold. Still a long shot from Kaplan and the side kick but its ok.

So you have no idea who Bob "coltranedog" Voulgaris is apparently. (hint: he is better than Laak and Mercier) Should we conclude you don't know who the other people are either?

Yeah I hate that

^^ This x100. They want to portray poker as an older, honorable, gentlemansgame with some fun anecdotes thrown in about the old western times. Totally missing the fact that it's 18-25yearold internetnerds who actually play the **** and have an actual interest in this show and the average viewer wants to see the helmuth style blowups. Talk about ****ing over your demographic - what the hell are the doing with this show honestly.