I was playing at the Soaring Eagle in Mich. a while back and heard about some older lady who gave up a bad beat jackpot. Evidently, she was doing fairly well and some kid next to her was giving her lip all night, being rude, etc. Towards the end of the night, the kid catches quad jacks and the older woman calls. The kid starts screaming, throws down his cards, and begins to rub it in. The woman calmly calls over the floor manager and asks how much the bad beat jackpot is. The floor manager says it is up to $80,000 or so. The woman flips over and mucks her quad queens and proceeds to pay the other players at the table the amount they would have won out of her own pocket.

Evidently, this was an article in Bluff Magazine?

If so, I would love to know if it is actually true and any details that may have got lost in translation.

I heard it was this one...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker...ine&id=2316427

ive never heard the part about her paying out the players share, but it happened at casino az in phoenix... its an apocryphal don't piss off the old people fable there.

I think it is a myth since it fits the standard urban legend parameters.

Someone does something that they ge tpunished for.

It has happened in every casino I've ever heard of and yet no one knows anyone it has happened to.

It's always a faceless nameless person.

We had a BBJ that was not paid due to the pot being too small. The man who caught quad aces on the turn said "let's check it down" the woman who filled up her Aces full of kings boat with the same ace on the turn said okay.

When the floor counted the pot, it had just $23 in it.

I was one table over when this happened. I have spoken to the floor who gave them the bad news and most of the players at the table who are still mad to this day at the payday they missed. BBJ was $26 much higher than it normally gets, we pay ours out often.

Aniother BBJ wasn't paid due to the woman with the Aces full of Kings not knowing she had a qualifying hand.

Heads up. Woman wioth AA, man with KK, man is all in for fifty, woman calls.

Flop K,K, A.

Man tables his KK for quads.

Woman shows him her AA and them throws her hand face down and forward.

Dealer buries it in the muck as he is supposed to do, he never saw the hand.

The man with quads K tried to stop him but it was too late.

I spoke to the dealer ten minutes after it happened, we kidded him about it for weeks until he finally managed to deal another jackpot hand.

and then the old lady went home to find that her dog was having difficulty breathing so she took him to the vet and they found three human fingers stuck in the dog's throat so the vet called the cops and sure enough they found a burglar in the lady's closet with three of his fingers bitten off.



that magazine article is total fiction imo.

No no, it happened to my friend's friend in California...

Seriously, gender differences are part of the urban legend too.
The 'villain' is always an older woman who needs nothing and misbehaving young man who needs everything. The rule is that you don't offend the elders and fairer sex.

And; women make stupid financial decisions becaused they're irate at men.

Ive heard this story in so many different ways, none of them are true, I think when your about to score 40k, you can care less about the annoying kid next to you.

There is a story re: LA poker back in the day that fits these exact parameters, although the story is slightly different.

Okay, here's where the story gets busted.

Frm the article linked above.

She tabled the hand.

Cards speak.

The dealer cannot kill an obviously winning hand. The dealer would retrieve the hand from the muck at the floor's direction and the floor would award the jackpot to the young mouthy guy and the old lady.

Video and all the people at the table would confirm she had the winning hand.

I wonder if the author of the article even plays live poker.

The one in South Florida has an old rich guy mucking his quads because he didn't want to deal with tax consequences.

Wow same type of thing happened in the Hollywood Hard Rock, a guy with warrants has the losing hand and tells the table I'll call if everyone gives me an extra 200 and someone puts it in there name, they turn him down and he throws his hand in the muck without calling face up then leaves.

the one thing about these two stories is there both made up. Kind of like the story of the guy that picks up a girl, has sex all night with no condoms and wakes up, goes to the bathroom and in lipstick on the mirror it says "welcome to the AIDS family" he gets tested the next day and he has it, this story has been going around since the late 80's and it is always in the next town.

I also played with 65 people that claim to have been at the table when the guy folded.
There was also just over 950,000 Yankee fans in Yankee stadium when Reggie hit the 3 home runs in the world series even though it only seats about 57,000 back then.

If the story is true of not I don't know, but I did read it in Bluff. In 2005 I think.

I'm sure you did but the name says it all.

Same story thats retold nearly everytime I play in Biloxi, MS but it happened at the other casino just last month. Tough break in the SNG but down here BBJ can only pay out in cash games. Do online poker sites have BBJ?

Wilt Chamberlain once stated that over the course of his life, tens of thousands of people came up to him and said they were at the game in which he scored 100pts, despite attendence being something like 4100 that day.

That sucks on the hand that only had 23 dollars in it. Our casino BBJ says that the minimum pot has to be $20 dollars. Those would have been some happy campers at my casino lol.

DeJaVue!

Where did I see this before, oh yes, post #11, ITT.

Uh, it's definitely possible to show your hand and still muck. This happens all the time.

I've lost to a one outter dozens of times(not counting omaha put that in and it may be hundreds) . Two outter...probably thousands of times. You remember "one time the case 7 hit"

Consider yourself lucky.

Show your hand with tabling it is not the same as tabling it.

In the story, the woman lays her hand down face up which is the definition of tabling a hand.

A tabled hand is open to be read by anyone and the dealer cannot kill a hand that is obviously a winner but that hand must be tabled to be read. If the dealer does muck a hand that should have won the pot, that had will be retrieved at the direction of the floor and the pot awaded to the best hand.

If a player displays the two cards in his hand to the player next to him without facing them up on the table, that is not a readible hand as per most rule books. That hand can be mucked but at showdown, mucking isn't really an option since anyone can ask to see the a called hand.

In most card rooms if the presumptive winner of the hand asks to see the other hand, that hand is still live, despite the other player's wishes.

It's been clearly established that Wilt doesn't really know how to properly estimate thousands when it comes to encounters with people.

Also, obviously untrue urban legend.

Maybe the story is more believable is she says "Fold" then mucks her cards face up?

The odds of one card coming are still 1-in-Deck.

The problem is that you're facing more possible one outers in Omaha, since you're facing a much more robust array of possible opponent holdings.

More often than you'd like you're holding the current nuts, and one of your opponents is on one unlikely draw and another of your opponents is on another unlikely draw. You're facing 6 times the number of hold'em hands in an Omaha opponent's hand. (A25T = A2, A5, AT, 25, 2T and 5T).

I was eliminated from an Omaha tournament (albeit a trivial one) by (essentially) two hands this week. I held KKxx on the KTQ2Q board and lost to QQ, and I got my chips all-in later with QQxx on the Q59 board and lost when the board ended up Q59AA when my opponent runner-runner'd AA to improve her AQxx.

...back to on topic:

I've been hearing the story here in Phoenix forever, so much so that I was getting to the point where I was ready to believe it was real. Seeing as we're in one of those places where the dealers moan "quick, don't do that, it invalidates the jackpot!" every 10 seconds, it wasn't too far fetched.

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Casino AZ have a fixed bad beat of $7,500?? This would contridict the progressive statement in the atricle.

I could be wrong and this was done years before but not when I was there.