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03-16-2016 , 09:01 AM

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EfromPegTown

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It's much easier to just rule that anything short of a full raise is not a raise.

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03-16-2016 , 11:07 AM

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icemanjmw

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

It's much easier to just rule that anything short of a full raise is not a raise.

The easiest is if people just verbally announce before placing chips in.

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03-16-2016 , 11:12 AM

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Yes, obviously.

I meant if people aren't announcing, the easiest is to just hold to a legal raise.

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03-16-2016 , 11:35 AM

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albedoa

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

It's much easier to just rule that anything short of a full raise is not a raise.

What could possibly go wrong.

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03-17-2016 , 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

It's much easier to just rule that anything short of a full raise is not a raise.

Easier for who? This is false. Been there and done that.

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03-17-2016 , 01:46 PM

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isn't the 50% rule a house rule and does this room have that rule?

Isn't that supposed to be a LHE rule? It is at my local room.

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03-17-2016 , 02:02 PM

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psandman

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Isn't that supposed to be a LHE rule? It is at my local room.

Now we are just going backwards

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=18

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03-17-2016 , 06:14 PM

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The people ITT that were saying >50% being a standard ruling are finding out its not standard.

Suit, how do you rule this is a tourney? The same way? If different, why?

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03-17-2016 , 06:43 PM

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psandman

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

The people ITT that were saying >50% being a standard ruling are finding out its not standard.

Suit, how do you rule this is a tourney? The same way? If different, why?

What are you talking about it doesn;t appear to me that anyone is changing their position on teh Bet and a Half rule. Yes its not universal but that is true of all poker rules because poker isn;t controlled by one central authority.

people do confuse it with teh 50% rule which is a limit rule governing when a all-in bet counts as a full bet for the purpose of reopening betting.

But if it helps the relevant TDA rule on the Bet and a Half:

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43: Raise Amounts
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A raise must be at least equal to the largest prior bet or raise of the current betting round. If a player raises 50% or more of the largest prior bet but less than a minimum raise, he must make a full minimum raise. If less than 50% it is a call unless “raise” is first declared. Declaring an amount or pushing out the same amount of chips is the same.

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03-17-2016 , 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

The people ITT that were saying >50% being a standard ruling are finding out its not standard.

Either you have mistaken this for another thread or we have very different ideas of what "standard" means.

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03-20-2016 , 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

The people ITT that were saying >50% being a standard ruling are finding out its not standard.

Suit, how do you rule this is a tourney? The same way? If different, why?

I rule it is a raise. Because according to my room's rules and the TDA rules it is a raise.

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But if it helps the relevant TDA rule on the Bet and a Half:

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43: Raise Amounts
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A raise must be at least equal to the largest prior bet or raise of the current betting round. If a player raises 50% or more of the largest prior bet but less than a minimum raise, he must make a full minimum raise. If less than 50% it is a call unless “raise” is first declared. Declaring an amount or pushing out the same amount of chips is the same.

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