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08-19-2024 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
That kind of subjectivity is designed to invite problems. Even reading all of those paragraphs gives no indication as to how much non-employee (or quasi-employee) discussion should take place in that particular thread.
Still it probably is worth having, for all parts. At least at the moment non-dealers simply don't post, already reading is interesting.
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08-20-2024 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
That kind of subjectivity is designed to invite problems. Even reading all of those paragraphs gives no indication as to how much non-employee (or quasi-employee) discussion should take place in that particular thread.
Wrong. Subjectivity is exactly what we want from mods, because they have to know the history of people, the culture of the community, how the rules have been applied in the past, when to show leniency, etc… And all we can ask of these unpaid volunteers is that they try to be as fair and levelheaded as possible when applying rules. Almost every forum realizes at some point that this is the case, because in a lot of cases strictly applying every single rule every time would result in valuable members of the community being banned or just leaving in frustration. So the mods always have to balance being strict rule nerds and making sure the health of the community is maintained in any well-run forum.

Dinesh has chastised me in the past (rightfully so) and deleted my posts when they were off topic or rude. Not frequently but at least a couple times. No hard feelings though because I can tell he means well and is trying his best at an UNPAID position (at least I assume it is if it’s like any other forum).

The lack of posts in this forum absolutely cannot be blamed on Dinesh moderating a thread after being pretty lapse for a while and not saying anything. He was actually being very nice in not saying much in the past and only coming down after getting some complaints. That’s exactly the type of moderation that is good for a forum, because it is not overly punitive.

Sometimes people just don’t have anything to talk about, and these things ebb and flow. I certainly would never want to be a mod on a forum and respect those that do it just for the love of the community.
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08-20-2024 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
That kind of subjectivity is designed to invite problems. Even reading all of those paragraphs gives no indication as to how much non-employee (or quasi-employee) discussion should take place in that particular thread.
Don't post in it unless they invite you in because there's leftover food from a holiday party or someone's giving you a ride home after their shift. Or you accidentally walk in when you're drunk.
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08-22-2024 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Wrong. Subjectivity is exactly what we want from mods, because they have to know the history of people, the culture of the community, how the rules have been applied in the past, when to show leniency, etc… And all we can ask of these unpaid volunteers is that they try to be as fair and levelheaded as possible when applying rules. Almost every forum realizes at some point that this is the case, because in a lot of cases strictly applying every single rule every time would result in valuable members of the community being banned or just leaving in frustration. So the mods always have to balance being strict rule nerds and making sure the health of the community is maintained in any well-run forum.

Dinesh has chastised me in the past (rightfully so) and deleted my posts when they were off topic or rude. Not frequently but at least a couple times. No hard feelings though because I can tell he means well and is trying his best at an UNPAID position (at least I assume it is if it’s like any other forum).

The lack of posts in this forum absolutely cannot be blamed on Dinesh moderating a thread after being pretty lapse for a while and not saying anything. He was actually being very nice in not saying much in the past and only coming down after getting some complaints. That’s exactly the type of moderation that is good for a forum, because it is not overly punitive.

Sometimes people just don’t have anything to talk about, and these things ebb and flow. I certainly would never want to be a mod on a forum and respect those that do it just for the love of the community.
I'm glad that you think Dinesh is very good at subjective moderation. Most decisions involve judgment calls. My post was to point out that someone reading his several paragraphs would be no closer to knowing what that judgment will be going forward.
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08-22-2024 , 11:07 AM
His post made me think he can handle it. Combined with not posting there myself I can go happily forwards.

No guarantees otherwise, that''s the nature of the game.
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08-22-2024 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
That kind of subjectivity is designed to invite problems. Even reading all of those paragraphs gives no indication as to how much non-employee (or quasi-employee) discussion should take place in that particular thread.
If one doesn't like the subjective approach, I'll invite them to use this less subjective one: if you're not a cardroom employee, don't post in that thread.

Everyone else who is comfortable with it can continue to follow the more subjective rules currently in place.
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07-14-2025 , 09:05 PM
please stop making threads and explore the site instead. Almost all your questions have been answered before.
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07-20-2025 , 01:56 PM
At this point it’s becoming clear this is an elaborate, and effective, troll job by the OP. If not, please for gods sake stop spamming this forum with so many new threads.
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07-20-2025 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by brianr
At this point it’s becoming clear this is an elaborate, and effective, troll job by the OP. If not, please for gods sake stop spamming this forum with so many new threads.
Actually, I was backed up by a 2 + 2 coach in this thread about a week ago.

I'm not spamming.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...addle-1849505/
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07-20-2025 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kripalu1
Actually, I was backed up by a 2 + 2 coach in this thread about a week ago.

I'm not spamming.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...addle-1849505/
I don't even need to click the link to know who this coach is. You might want to look at his history. Esp. a couple of years ago at MGMNH IIRC. He literally threatened (maybe did) slap a person with a restrain order for bad behavior but nothing deserving of that step. You should consider the source.

Seriously, you have posted about more petty situations in the last few weeks. If you are really having that many issues at the tables and they are like most of these threads, learn to chill. Don't fret the little things.

You called this floor over 3 times for effectively nothing. Sure the other player was acting poorly, but nothing that needed a floor intervention.
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07-20-2025 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kripalu1
Actually, I was backed up by a 2 + 2 coach in this thread about a week ago.

I'm not spamming.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...addle-1849505/
At this point I would assume Kripalu1 is a troll spamming this forum with fake stories but DumbosTrunks asserts they have crossed paths and maybe even played in the same 5-5 PLO game with the same *******s. I’m having a hard time believing they can be in the same room at the same time without at least one floor person rage quitting and one of them getting kicked out. Can anyone besides DumbosTrunk confirm whether Kripalu1 is a real person?
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07-21-2025 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PatPat8
At this point I would assume Kripalu1 is a troll spamming this forum with fake stories but DumbosTrunks asserts they have crossed paths and maybe even played in the same 5-5 PLO game with the same *******s. I’m having a hard time believing they can be in the same room at the same time without at least one floor person rage quitting and one of them getting kicked out. Can anyone besides DumbosTrunk confirm whether Kripalu1 is a real person?
I don't have time to "troll". That's absurd.

Two plus two has declined so much over the years, but the haters haven't declined, they seem to have increased.

However, there are some good posters here in this section. I can appreciate that they had some good posters here.

Cheers!

Last edited by Kripalu1; 07-21-2025 at 12:31 AM.
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07-21-2025 , 03:30 AM
Guys, this is a dying forum with very few posts in the subforum. This guy is obviously fairly new to live poker and playing in a different country than his own.

Having several new threads isn't hurting anything. I miss this subforum bring busier end enjoy reading his posts. If you don't, it's very easy to just not look at them.

He definitely has mentioned doing some things at the table that seem inappropriate, but that's why he's asking. In this example, he said he's going to take the advice given here in the future. This is what the forum is here for.
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07-21-2025 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by brianr
At this point it’s becoming clear this is an elaborate, and effective, troll job by the OP. If not, please for gods sake stop spamming this forum with so many new threads.
Kripalu1 has single-handedly created more traffic than this sub-forum has seen in over a decade. But somehow, you see that as a bad thing.

Maybe don't click threads started by posters that trigger you.

But, if you do click on them and then choose to reply with vitriol like the above quote, then you are the spammer.
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07-21-2025 , 10:00 AM
mod: I have moved (or am moving) a number of posts and replies across a few different threads here to the moderation thread.

I feel like I should provide some guidance and commentary here.

Guidance:
(1) If you have a problem with someone's post(s), report them, don't respond to them. If you feel you must respond to them about something other than their post content in that context, do so in this thread. If you do not report the post, I may never see it. I am also less likely to moderate something that hasn't been reported.

(2) Do not flame new users, even if you suspect them of being a troll. First, you may be wrong, and I am not impressed by people trying to be the first person to call out an alleged troll. Just report them and I will look into it when I am able. But unless it is really disruptive, I'm not likely to care too much about someone pretend-posting, especially if it results in meaningful conversation with and among the community. Second, we have a rule here about being nice, especially to new posters. Follow it, especially if you are a long time poster.

Commentary:
(3) It's a fine line between spamming and giving some life to this forum. In a different world where CCP is getting hundreds of posts a day, perhaps I would feel differently about these threads. But in today's world where we sometimes go a few days without any posts at all, I am not likely to moderate someone new who creates a handful of new threads (almost the only new threads) and gets some amount of engagement with the community about them. Even if they are not all super subtle or new topics to us old hands.

As others have said, if you don't like a post, don't read it, or don't respond to it. If you don't like a poster, ignore them. If you feel like a forum rule is being violated, report the post, and I will review it when I have the chance.

Thanks! If there are further questions about our policies or my interpretation of them, please feel free to comment further here.
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07-22-2025 , 12:41 PM
All good points, my sincere apologies.
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07-25-2025 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by brianr
At this point it’s becoming clear this is an elaborate, and effective, troll job by the OP. If not, please for gods sake stop spamming this forum with so many new threads.
Kripalu1 was banned. I didn't see anything inappropriate from that poster.
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07-25-2025 , 12:25 PM
Just to be clear, his banning had nothing to do with CCP or his posting here. Or at least, I did not ban him.
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