Wrong.

I cut my teeth playing 3/6 limit and played many many hours of that and 4/8 limit back when Moneymaker was probably still doing beer bongs in college. After a year of that the ledger said my win rate was less than minimum wage. And I was probably the only winner at teh 3/6 game from what I could figure. Them was the days...

I wasn't trying to say games with sub-200 average pots were going to be a bonanza like Ray mischaracterized me as saying, but rather I was refuting his claim that they couldn't be beat. they can be beat, and beat failry well because the players are so bad. The extra dollar of rake doesn't make the game unbeatable. Ray's backpeaddling. He want from saying it couldn't be beat, to saying only a poverty level existence could be made at it.. Even then I think he's wrong, becayuse he's talking about $10 an hour in a 1/2 game and even with $6 total rake $15 should be attainable by a good player if not maybe even a bit more.

How will they do that when the button limped?

Interesting, but I had always assumed it worked the other way, namely that pit and slots players sometimes move to the poker room but not the other way around.

never heard of t.j. cookier?

When this happens it is time to close the poker room.

They need only to apply for bailout money, after all they give away as many cars at the slot machines as Chrysler sells in a year. It out to be a no brainer for them to get the cash by agreeing to terminate the union contracts.

times are tough,revenues are down,and they are laying off people and selling assets to pay their bills...all of them are in trouble,some more,some less...

expect lower service, higher rakes to spread throughout the strip and beyond

Your very sympothetic point of view is nice and all but I guarantee that when the economy rebounds, this casino shall NOT return the rake back to its earlier level.

I suppose that's one way to go. The economy is tanking so fewer people are visiting Vegas and when they do they're spending less. Many who are not coming are remembering how expensive the restaurants were and how they had to pay $120ea for show tickets. So hey...gouge the hardy few who are still coming for all you can get!

Or you can go the other direction. Appreciate the visitors you're getting and do what you can to please them. If pouring a drink out of a $24 bottle vs $18 bottle of liquor makes your customers come back, while refusing them the $24 shot in their Jack&Coke causes them to pick up and storm out with their Diamond card promising never to play at Harrah's again (which I've seen), that's a pretty small price to pay.

When things are going poorly and companies start jacking up prices, it's often a sure sign of an unstoppable death spiral beginning. Turn the strip into what downtown has become and nobody will come to Vegas. The reason people don't just stay and play in their local native and state-run casinos is they want the Vegas experience. If the experience they get in Vegas is just like they get by driving 20 miles, they'll stop getting on a plane.

thereby stopping to pay the taxes of the residents of the nevada