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07-29-2014 , 01:07 PM
But it's funny!
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07-29-2014 , 01:32 PM
I would laugh and give you a buck, but I tend not to take these things too seriously at the tables. I know I'm in the minority.

Can I ask, what he thinks you did that made him stop tipping you?
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07-29-2014 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
Can I ask, what he thinks you did that made him stop tipping you?
Its fresh enough that it would potentially identify me if he reads this. But I assure you this one was an easy no brainer that I didn't do anything wrong and the "problem" he sees was caused by him.

But the beauty of the this is that even if I had done something outrageous and deserved to never be tipped again .... he lacks the self awareness to realize that he hardly tips anyway so telling me that was never going to have the effect he thinks it does.
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07-29-2014 , 10:13 PM
Gotcha. He said it to justify his stinginess.
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07-30-2014 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by punkass
Gotcha. He said it to justify his stinginess.
No. He said it because he has no awareness of of his stinginess.
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07-30-2014 , 02:01 PM
Person walks in the poker room and says to brush "Is there a buy in?"

I turn around and walk the other direction. Didn't want to hear how the rest of that conversation went.
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07-30-2014 , 02:45 PM
PITA (wearing one of those childrens Burger King crowns) sits down with $200 in blue ($2) chips on a 1/2 NL game as I'm pushing in. Before dealing a hand I tell him that I'll have to call the chip runner to color his blue chips as it's a red-chip game. PITA gets huffy and says that he wants to keep his blue chips and that he wants a floor ruling. I call the floor over, naturally he says the same thing I did. Five hands after coloring his chips up PITA gets felted and storms away from the table loudly saying that he lost because I didn't let him use his *lucky* chips.

I should mention that I was dealing to this same jackass about a year ago on a 1/2 game and had the same problem with him when he sat down with $300 worth of white chips. I wish our management would just ban him already and save us the headache of dealing with him...
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07-30-2014 , 08:20 PM
1/2 game. $15 bet on the river. Folds to the button who counts out a raise to $115 (fwiw, this was behind our betting line, which isn't enforced anyway)

He has the $115 in four $25 stacks, with the extra $15 on top. He has his hands spread out as if he's about to push the $115 in. He then stops and looks up at me.

"RAISE!"

Ok.... He then grabs two of the $25 stacks and pushes them out. Followed by the other two $25 stacks. Followed by the $15

Face palm. "FLOOR!"
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07-30-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
Person walks in the poker room and says to brush "Is there a buy in?"

I turn around and walk the other direction. Didn't want to hear how the rest of that conversation went.
We have a $100 max bet law here, so we spread games like 1/2-100 and 2/5-100 spread limit. Every time I hear "what do you mean you don't have no limit?" I walk away.
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07-30-2014 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by T1967
PITA (wearing one of those childrens Burger King crowns) sits down with $200 in blue ($2) chips on a 1/2 NL game as I'm pushing in. Before dealing a hand I tell him that I'll have to call the chip runner to color his blue chips as it's a red-chip game. PITA gets huffy and says that he wants to keep his blue chips and that he wants a floor ruling. I call the floor over, naturally he says the same thing I did. Five hands after coloring his chips up PITA gets felted and storms away from the table loudly saying that he lost because I didn't let him use his *lucky* chips.

I should mention that I was dealing to this same jackass about a year ago on a 1/2 game and had the same problem with him when he sat down with $300 worth of white chips. I wish our management would just ban him already and save us the headache of dealing with him...
yeah this guy is a pretty huge douchebag
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07-30-2014 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
1/2 game. $15 bet on the river. Folds to the button who counts out a raise to $115 (fwiw, this was behind our betting line, which isn't enforced anyway)

He has the $115 in four $25 stacks, with the extra $15 on top. He has his hands spread out as if he's about to push the $115 in. He then stops and looks up at me.

"RAISE!"

Ok.... He then grabs two of the $25 stacks and pushes them out. Followed by the other two $25 stacks. Followed by the $15

Face palm. "FLOOR!"
didn't it used to be that once you announced raise in NL, you could continue to move chips into the pot until your hands came to a rest? not sure exactly when or why the rule changed.
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07-30-2014 , 11:23 PM
Happily we have a betting line here so if you cross it without announcing the bet it stays. I'd probably go nuts with all the angle shooting that takes place at rooms with no betting lines.
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07-31-2014 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
didn't it used to be that once you announced raise in NL, you could continue to move chips into the pot until your hands came to a rest? not sure exactly when or why the rule changed.
Yes.

Because people can't handle it.

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Originally Posted by thesteve
Happily we have a betting line here so if you cross it without announcing the bet it stays. I'd probably go nuts with all the angle shooting that takes place at rooms with no betting lines.
Funny, I feel exactly the opposite. I'm glad I don't have to worry about all the angle shooting that takes place at rooms with strict betting lines.
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07-31-2014 , 01:52 AM
I love having a betting line, if it comes across, it stays. done, end of story.
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07-31-2014 , 01:56 AM
What if someone has seven reds, tosses them forward, but one of them lands behind the line? What's the bet?

What if someone is trying to limp in a 1/2 game and drops out three chips, then quickly takes one back? What's the bet?
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07-31-2014 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
didn't it used to be that once you announced raise in NL, you could continue to move chips into the pot until your hands came to a rest? not sure exactly when or why the rule changed.
No, once you announce raise it is still single motion. What confuses matters is someone can announce raise and put in the exact amount of the call, but having announced raise he can then cut out what he wants to raise. Unless an amount is stated, he's held to single motion for putting in the raise just as he would have to do for making it a legit bet, not a string bet.

Couple of things, in my room a dealer cannot call out a string (bet or) raise. It must be pointed out or announced by another player, so while I would note to myself the action would be a string raise, I wouldn't call the floor until someone brought it up.

If he had pushed out $25 stacks one at a time, and a string bet is called even if raise is announced, his total bet would have to be $30 which would then be a min raise
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07-31-2014 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gotf
No, once you announce raise it is still single motion. What confuses matters is someone can announce raise and put in the exact amount of the call, but having announced raise he can then cut out what he wants to raise.
Funny story, this is actually the opposite of how it used to be, and I know of at least one room that as of a few years ago still used the traditional method.

You could keep adding chips as long as you didn't come to rest. So the act of pushing out a few stacks would be cool. However, announcing "raise", putting out the call, and then pausing would bind you to the minraise. You announced intent, then you came to rest. Verbal is binding, but anything more is a string bet.

For game flow, I far prefer this method. You can see when a person stops moving. The guy who says "raise" and then puts out just the call actually causes more problems than the guy pushing out a few stacks one after the other. Alas, most rulesets now encourage the former and punish the latter.

Last edited by pfapfap; 07-31-2014 at 03:56 AM. Reason: not really very funny
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07-31-2014 , 04:39 AM
With a betting line if people accidentally drop 1 chip while obv meaning for it to be part of the bet I just let them put it in. What also helps in cash games is the half or more rule doesn't apply for a raise like it does in tourneys. If someone is facing a 100$ bet and puts in 199 that's a call. Also if someone puts in 3$ at 1-2 limping in that's a call. As a player I wouldn't like it but as a dealer for my particular room I like it and need it.
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07-31-2014 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pfapfap
What if someone has seven reds, tosses them forward, but one of them lands behind the line? What's the bet?

6 red chips

What if someone is trying to limp in a 1/2 game and drops out three chips, then quickly takes one back? What's the bet?

raise to 4 chips
Maybe then people will learn a simple sliding motion is all it takes to place a bet.
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07-31-2014 , 06:22 AM
Sorry, not a fan.
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07-31-2014 , 06:56 AM
Curious if anyone here works in a room where the Floor is required to get permission to send someone home? In my room, no matter the reason, I must get clearance to give someone the boot. I know I've played in rooms where the floor can make this decision on his own.

Just wondering what the norm is on this issue?
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07-31-2014 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by thesteve
What also helps in cash games is the half or more rule doesn't apply for a raise like it does in tourneys. If someone is facing a 100$ bet and puts in 199 that's a call.
I thought it was standard pretty much everywhere for NL that when facing a bet if you put out an amount that was 50% or more of the amount needed to raise but less than a min raise that you were then held to a min raise. I know that's the rule in my room anyway.
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07-31-2014 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by thesteve
With a betting line if people accidentally drop 1 chip while obv meaning for it to be part of the bet I just let them put it in. What also helps in cash games is the half or more rule doesn't apply for a raise like it does in tourneys. If someone is facing a 100$ bet and puts in 199 that's a call. Also if someone puts in 3$ at 1-2 limping in that's a call. As a player I wouldn't like it but as a dealer for my particular room I like it and need it.
I would hate this as a dealer. Player A slides out a stack of chips and Player B slides out 2 stacks of chips and you don't know if its a call or a raise until you count the stacks.....
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07-31-2014 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JDiamond364
Curious if anyone here works in a room where the Floor is required to get permission to send someone home? In my room, no matter the reason, I must get clearance to give someone the boot. I know I've played in rooms where the floor can make this decision on his own.

Just wondering what the norm is on this issue?
Small room with One floor person? Or larger room. My experience in small rooms where you have one floor person acting as a shift manager/floor is that they generally have the authority to boot players .... and when I worked in that position I would not call anybody to get permission .... but I always knew that I would have to answer to the manager later if the player was a regular. If I wasn't removing someone just because they were to intoxicated to gamble, I would generally tell them they were barred until they spoke to manager.

But in larger rooms I have seen where the floor person doesn't have authority to remove players and they typically need to involve the shift manager.
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07-31-2014 , 10:03 AM
This is pretty standard.
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