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02-10-2014 , 12:46 PM
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02-10-2014 , 12:52 PM
How do you all deal with cursing at the table when it isn't directed at a player or the dealer?


This is from a player not dealer, so I hope it is allowed.
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02-10-2014 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Players were complaining about the background music being played in the room. They mentioned a few songs in particular they found annoying.

"Oh, I hadn't heard those," I said. "I must have been in the break room then."

"What are you listening to in the break room?", asked a player.

"A bunch of dealers, bitching about you guys," I replied. The players were stunned to learn this.
I would have laughed.

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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
If the stakes are 1-1 and there is a 2$ straddle, is 3$ a legit raise? in your casinos?
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Originally Posted by bolt2112
We don't offer 1-1, but if we did, $3 would be legit.
IMO $3 is legit.

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Originally Posted by playingthru23
How do you all deal with cursing at the table when it isn't directed at a player or the dealer?


This is from a player not dealer, so I hope it is allowed.
Depends how much tbh. In my experience, most rooms doesn't really mind curse words except for the f-bomb, and even then as long as it's not directed at another player or used excessively, nobody cares.
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02-10-2014 , 01:16 PM
Heck, you can swear at me all you want to. Just don't direct it at my players.
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02-10-2014 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by playingthru23
How do you all deal with cursing at the table when it isn't directed at a player or the dealer?


This is from a player not dealer, so I hope it is allowed.

I'll tolerate occasional casual profanity not directed to anyone. But there is a limit to what is acceptable (table dependant) and I will try to keep people within limit.


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02-10-2014 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bolt2112
We don't offer 1-1, but if we did, $3 would be legit.
My room would handle it the same way. $3 would be a min raise.
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02-10-2014 , 02:06 PM
If it's conversational/friendly, I have a wide tolerance for cursing.

Like if a player says, "I love this poker room. It's the [poop]!" Then I have no problem with it as long as none of the players are visibly uncomfortable.

On the other hand, when a player gets sucked out on the river, and gets loud, dropping f-bombs all over the place, I'm going to ask him to cool it after a few instances.

And if a curse word is directed at me or another player in a hostile way I have zero tolerance and will call the floor immediately.
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02-10-2014 , 02:37 PM
Won a free custom hoodie in an online drawing. It's very Ed Hardyish..

What's the most +EV phrase to have printed down the sleeves?
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02-10-2014 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
If the stakes are 1-1 and there is a 2$ straddle, is 3$ a legit raise? in your casinos?
Assuming no limit, the raise would have to be to 4.
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02-10-2014 , 03:19 PM
My room recently instituted automatic one-round penalty in our tournaments for f-bombs in any context, which I find laughable, as I don't even have that word in my Top Three list of offensive words.

(I had them listed here, but snipped it, because these words are so offensive, you can't even TALK about them, not even in the context of "What are the most offensive words you can think of?")

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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
"What are you listening to in the break room?", asked a player.

"A bunch of dealers, bitching about you guys," I replied. The players were stunned to learn this.
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
I would have laughed.
The stunned players DID laugh. I should have been more clear about this.
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02-10-2014 , 03:34 PM
Thanks for the replies. The player in question was already a handful of drinks in and still ordering them as often as the CW would come by. He was so nutso with his chips that nobody wanted to see him go. However there was a period where every other word was cursing, and not quietly. I'm guessing a dealer that was tapping out said something to the floor b/c I believe he got cut off from booze for an hour or so.
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02-10-2014 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
My room recently instituted automatic one-round penalty in our tournaments for f-bombs in any context, which I find laughable, as I don't even have that word in my Top Three list of offensive words.

(I had them listed here, but snipped it, because these words are so offensive, you can't even TALK about them, not even in the context of "What are the most offensive words you can think of?")
Yeah, the year I worked the WSOP they were on their any F-bomb is a penalty kick. It was ridiculous because people who were just releasing moment of frustration, or telling a casual story were getting penalized ..... meanwhile players who were being deliberately abusive but avoiding that one word were getting away with it.



Which brings me to another thing that bugs me about these rules.

Players who substitute another word for the profanity.

Why is it Okay to say Frig but not ****? You mean the exact same thing. If their is something offensive about **** shouldn't a word you use to express the same meaning be equally offensive?
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02-10-2014 , 03:42 PM
i think F-bombs should generally be allowed, provided they are not directed at a player and are just in a moment of frustration, and are not done so loudly as to attract the attention of players that are 5 tables away.
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02-10-2014 , 03:49 PM
Years ago I was at a table and one guy just couldn't stop saying ****. he wasn't directing it at anybody and he wasn't really being a jerk but he just used that word in almost every sentence.

I asked him to stop and he would say ok but it would slip right back in to his speech. He had a bunch of buddies at the table and everytime I said something about it they made him tip me $1. It got to the point where I didn't even have to say a word. He would wear and his buddies would catch it and he would toss me $1. Now nobody at the table was really offended by it, and pretty much were amused by this and I was making good money so of course I wasn't going to escalate it or call the floor.

At the end of my down after I got up, I turned to the guy and said "You really have to stop ****ing swearing so much" and tossed him a $1 chip.
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02-10-2014 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman


Which brings me to another thing that bugs me about these rules.

Players who substitute another word for the profanity.

Why is it Okay to say Frig but not ****? You mean the exact same thing. If their is something offensive about **** shouldn't a word you use to express the same meaning be equally offensive?
Agree. I don't get curse words at all. You is "**** you" bad but "Go to hell" someone better? I'm all for banning any kind of actual offensive words like racial slurs, but the world needs realize these words aren't that bad. I think it will slowly happen. Hell, remember when **** being said on TV was a big deal? Now a ton of shows use it all the time.
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02-10-2014 , 06:12 PM
At my room we're instructed to warn the players not to use the f word and if they do it again call the floor. I usually let it go unless it's directed at me or another player but in normal conversation I don't see any harm in it.
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02-10-2014 , 06:42 PM
I usually don't even care if it's directed at me (as a dealer or player). I look it like a slowroll, most good players are able to control themselves and not drop f-bombs left and right. I'm not going to get the table fish kicked out because they told me to **** off. Now, if somebody else at the table has an issue with it, then I call floor.
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02-10-2014 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
I usually don't even care if it's directed at me (as a dealer or player). I look it like a slowroll, most good players are able to control themselves and not drop f-bombs left and right. I'm not going to get the table fish kicked out because they told me to **** off. Now, if somebody else at the table has an issue with it, then I call floor.
As a dealer you are doing a disservice to everyone to not address this. If the player is abusive to you and you do nothing about it you send the message that anything goes..... and it will get worse.....

If you address it early on you can stop it before it escalates.
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02-10-2014 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
My room recently instituted automatic one-round penalty in our tournaments for f-bombs in any context, which I find laughable, as I don't even have that word in my Top Three list of offensive words.

(I had them listed here, but snipped it, because these words are so offensive, you can't even TALK about them, not even in the context of "What are the most offensive words you can think of?")





The stunned players DID laugh. I should have been more clear about this.
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Originally Posted by psandman
Yeah, the year I worked the WSOP they were on their any F-bomb is a penalty kick. It was ridiculous because people who were just releasing moment of frustration, or telling a casual story were getting penalized ..... meanwhile players who were being deliberately abusive but avoiding that one word were getting away with it.



Which brings me to another thing that bugs me about these rules.

Players who substitute another word for the profanity.

Why is it Okay to say Frig but not ****? You mean the exact same thing. If their is something offensive about **** shouldn't a word you use to express the same meaning be equally offensive?
I favor the automatic penalty for the f-bomb in certain markets. In markets where a substantial portion of the dealers do not speak English, they have no way of recognizing when a payer is being abusing, but they can recognize when they hear a particular word and alert the floor. It helps cut done on the level of abusiveness in markets where the dealer cannot tell the floor what is happening on the table.
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02-10-2014 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
Why is it Okay to say Frig but not ****? You mean the exact same thing. If their is something offensive about **** shouldn't a word you use to express the same meaning be equally offensive?
When I was on Usenet back in the dark ages, it seemed to be a thing for people to substitute punctuation for characters, ie: "$hit" or "@sshole". I never understood this. What are letters if not representations of sounds? How is writing something that looks like the letter and invokes the same sound not the same thing as writing it out, just because technically it came from a different key on the keyboard?
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02-10-2014 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
As a dealer you are doing a disservice to everyone to not address this. If the player is abusive to you and you do nothing about it you send the message that anything goes..... and it will get worse.....

If you address it early on you can stop it before it escalates.
I think we may have different definitions of "abusive"

If a guy says "I can never win with this ****er in the box" I don't care, and I don't considered myself abused.

If he says "You're such a ****ing piece of **** you can't deal worth a ****ing..." etc. I will call floor.
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02-10-2014 , 10:18 PM
It sounds like you have the same trigger as MLB umpires:

Profanity rolls off their back; the Magic Word that will get you tossed is "you".
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02-11-2014 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
Years ago I was at a table and one guy just couldn't stop saying ****. he wasn't directing it at anybody and he wasn't really being a jerk but he just used that word in almost every sentence.

I asked him to stop and he would say ok but it would slip right back in to his speech. He had a bunch of buddies at the table and everytime I said something about it they made him tip me $1. It got to the point where I didn't even have to say a word. He would wear and his buddies would catch it and he would toss me $1. Now nobody at the table was really offended by it, and pretty much were amused by this and I was making good money so of course I wasn't going to escalate it or call the floor.

At the end of my down after I got up, I turned to the guy and said "You really have to stop ****ing swearing so much" and tossed him a $1 chip.
Lol. Nice.
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02-11-2014 , 09:49 PM
Another lovely one today. Hands supporting chin, elbows on the rail. Apparently slightly wiggling your elbow means check.
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02-12-2014 , 01:27 AM
What would y'all do here?

Short-handed 2/5. Rainbow broadway on board, pot is around $30. On the river, Player A makes a motion like "okay, let's get this over with" for check-check, then tabled his hand and says "straight". Player B nods and says "straight" while dropping his cards face-down. They go slightly forward, with a corner of them crossing the line.

Our betting line is weird. There's no real consensus on whether it's rigid or not. The higher ups who know less about poker want it rigid, while the medium ups and dealers who know more about poker are logical about it.

What's your move?
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