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12-04-2013 , 01:53 AM
It may seem obvious to most, but leave your phone in the car. FFS no texting during the interview.
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12-04-2013 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
A few weeks ago now, I landed myself a job as a dealer for a casino in Glasgow, Scotland. So this begs the question, I can haz posts ITT?
Welcome!

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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
Interview went great!
Great!

Don't worry about the all-in. They like to screw with people. At one audition I did, they had a multi-way all-in for an O8 hand, then after the board was dealt they swapped out the cards to be all low.
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12-04-2013 , 02:25 AM
Holy ****. I just got more pissed of at a table than I've ever been.

Deal a flop seven ways and it comes three to straight flush. 569sss I think. One players makes a comment about a straight flush. "Please don't talk about the board please". He says sorry, 5 seconds later another player does it. "Sir, please, no talking about the board". He apologizes.

I bring the turn and there is still four players. And it's the 8s. Any time I put something like this on the board, I fully expect some idiot to make a comment. Of course, somebody does. "Ok, guys, last warning. Please don't talk about the board". The hand ends, and some old guy gets all defensive, "Why aren't we allowed to talk about the board.". I say "That's giving information to other players. It's possible [winnning player] didn't see the spades." He gets more angry "Well that must be some silly house rule here"

And that's when I got a little annoyed

"Actually, it's not just here. Any half-decent room in the country will have that rule"

Whatever, next hand. And again, I put four a straight flush, this time clubs. Three players check the river. Somebody turns over two pair, and before the other two muck or show, some idiot goes "Damn! I folded the queen of clubs!"

Holy. ****ing. ****. "FLOOR!"

Floor comes over, I explain that the very last hand, I told the table three times not to take about the board and how it happened again. Floor gives the entire table a warning. After the floor leaves the guy that made the comment says "Well it didn't matter the hand was over". I tell him "No, two players still hand a had. You could have cost this gentleman the pot". "But the hand was over!!!"

Ok, I've had it.

"______, NO! The hand is not over until everybody's hand is either tabled or in the muck. Until then, do not make a comment about the board"

Thankfully my push was there and I just got up and left. It's the only table which should become awkward when I push back in. I probably stepped a bit out of line, but I was just annoyed and frustrated. It didn't help that the guy I pretty much yelled at is notorious for telegraphing his actions. He's one of those guys that every time I bring a flop he bitches about how he "can't hit a flop" and holds his cards like he's ready to muck them.
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12-04-2013 , 04:44 AM
Oh man I feel ya on that. I finally had to train myself not to give a ****. I still tell people not to do it, but they're still going to do it. Thing is, if nobody at the table understands why they shouldn't, then does it really matter anyway?

But still, these kinds of things have cause my greatest frustration and biggest problems at the table. "What? I have cards, I can say what I want!"
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12-04-2013 , 06:45 AM
I used to care about that stuff. ******s gonna ******
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12-04-2013 , 12:03 PM
4th annual 2+2 toys for kids thread is up. Deadline is approaching, giving you guys a heads up.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...nnual-1391238/

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12-04-2013 , 12:06 PM
I got the job induction day tomorrow !
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12-04-2013 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
I got the job induction day tomorrow !
Congrats
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12-04-2013 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
I got the job induction day tomorrow !
Your avatar fits in well with this post
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12-04-2013 , 01:49 PM
So last night I dealt another of those small private tournaments. I thought it was a full table till I got there, by the time I got there it was three handed, but all the players who had been knocked out were still sitting at the table giving the appearance of a 10 handed game.

It was very difficult to deal this thing as the players were completely clueless. One guy kept open folding (when in between hands I explained to him that he could check his answer was Oh, I thought there was a bet) and this sequence happened over and over. Everyone at the table was giving advice (while I tried to keep it under some control) and one player turned into a complete blubbering idiot anytime there was an all-in bet.

The play was horrendous ...... guys would call off large bets then fold to an insignificant all-in. One guy never bet or raised. But somehow the chips just circulated around and I couldn;t get this thing to end.

So about halfway through I just couldn't take it any more. I looked at one of the "bystanders" and asked "You guys all were playing in this right?" and they all happily answer in the affirmative .......

"So, how bad did you guys have to be that THESE THREE are the guys still in this?"
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12-04-2013 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
So last night I dealt another of those small private tournaments. I thought it was a full table till I got there, by the time I got there it was three handed, but all the players who had been knocked out were still sitting at the table giving the appearance of a 10 handed game.

It was very difficult to deal this thing as the players were completely clueless. One guy kept open folding (when in between hands I explained to him that he could check his answer was Oh, I thought there was a bet) and this sequence happened over and over. Everyone at the table was giving advice (while I tried to keep it under some control) and one player turned into a complete blubbering idiot anytime there was an all-in bet.

The play was horrendous ...... guys would call off large bets then fold to an insignificant all-in. One guy never bet or raised. But somehow the chips just circulated around and I couldn;t get this thing to end.

So about halfway through I just couldn't take it any more. I looked at one of the "bystanders" and asked "You guys all were playing in this right?" and they all happily answer in the affirmative .......

"So, how bad did you guys have to be that THESE THREE are the guys still in this?"

loooooooooooool

bless you
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12-04-2013 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
"So, how bad did you guys have to be that THESE THREE are the guys still in this?"
Haha. Pwned.

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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
I got the job induction day tomorrow !
Congrats!

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Holy ****. I just got more pissed of at a table than I've ever been.
Unfortunately there is nothing that will ever help. There exist an incredible amount of people at small stakes who would rather argue with the dealer about this than follow the rule, no matter how many times you tell them.
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12-04-2013 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
I got the job induction day tomorrow !
Congrats!

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Originally Posted by TheBritishLion
"So, how bad did you guys have to be that THESE THREE are the guys still in this?"
Hah!
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12-05-2013 , 12:25 PM
Quick question for you guys: Dealing to the button, do you continue with the same pitch as you would to the other seats or do you slow down and accurately pitch into the player so as to go over the button. I find that pitching to the button means it stops in front of it, naturally. I know you're not meant to pitch over anything so what do you do? I have the accuracy to pitch over the button so should I anyway? Also, in my card room if a button card is exposed it's not a misdeal.

Another question, for seats 9 and 10 (seats 1 and 2 for you normal right-handers) do you still pitch? I have become accustomed to pinching the card as if to pitch but instead almost pushing the card in the air directly to the seat. This doesn't look as smooth as pitching because I move my whole arm instead of just my hand.
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12-05-2013 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
I know you're not meant to pitch over anything
Why not? I always have to pitch over or beside the button or blinds.

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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
(seats 1 and 2 ) do you still pitch?
I still pitch to 1 and 2.
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12-05-2013 , 02:17 PM
Button I usually aim in front because of the hands flailing just behind it. Either that or off to the side where there is a little space.

1 seat is a short pitch (10 is as well)...I pitch just very softly. 2 seat it depends on what is in my way. Normally it's pitchable, but if not I just reach out and backhand it in.
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12-05-2013 , 02:30 PM
-Grats TheBritishLion!

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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
Quick question for you guys: Dealing to the button, do you continue with the same pitch as you would to the other seats or do you slow down and accurately pitch into the player so as to go over the button.
I pitch like normal and give myself mental bonus points for pitching them under the button.

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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
Another question, for seats 9 and 10 (seats 1 and 2 for you normal right-handers) do you still pitch?
Like normal for me, it's faster.


I really don't deal much anymore, but I feel like I can still give some input!

Reasons:
Spoiler:
I dealt for many years and I still deal at the PCA every year. I have dealt t.v. tables and some big cash games ($300/$600 8 game mix, Guy Laliberté's private cash game, etc...)
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12-05-2013 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Why not? I always have to pitch over or beside the button or blinds.
I was under the impression that you weren't meant to due to the possibility of the card flipping off the object it's pitched over.

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Originally Posted by Tristan Wilberg
I pitch like normal and give myself mental bonus points for pitching them under the button.
I tend to get it under the button for the most part and I thought it wasn't very helpful for the player on the button. But, hey, if you give yourself points for it then I guess I'll keep doing it!
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12-05-2013 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Wilberg
Reasons:
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I dealt for many years and I still deal at the PCA every year. I have dealt t.v. tables and some big cash games ($300/$600 8 game mix, Guy Laliberté's private cash game, etc...)
I really want to ask (if you wouldn't mind telling): What were the tips like in Guy Laliberté's private cash game? Guy seems like he is nice person and, from what I gather, he's a generous individual, so I would (like to) think that he is a good tipper. Is that the case when he plays cash games? Or in general/overall? What about the other players in the game? Any monster-tip stories you could share? Or notorious-cheapskate-millionaire-stiff stories you care to tell?

By the way, if you're not comfortable sharing any stories, no problem. I'm just a little obsessed when it comes to tipping and I'm always curious to hear stories about what super-wealthy people are like when it comes to tipping. I love the good people and I genuinely despise the bad ones! So, if you wouldn't mind sharing, I would love to hear some stories!!



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12-05-2013 , 03:49 PM
That was my biggest pet peeve for a long time, watching right-handed dealers look absolutely stupid trying to alter their pitch to the 2-seat, often lifting the card high enough off the deck to expose it, and swinging their arm (after big windup) like they're hurling a discus.

I was a fat guy who always chose an end seat so there would be more room for my giant ass, but I always avoided the 2-seat for this reason.

Just point the stub at the target, and pitch to it! If the 1-seat has a huge stack or refuses keep his hands out of the way, just extend your arms, lean a little, and if the pitch only goes as far as the betting line, that's good enough--the guy in the 2-seat understands.
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12-05-2013 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AzAssassin
I really want to ask (if you wouldn't mind telling): What were the tips like in Guy Laliberté's private cash game? Guy seems like he is nice person and, from what I gather, he's a generous individual, so I would (like to) think that he is a good tipper.
I don't want to hijack the thread toward players that tip or don't...but I will tell you how awesome it was dealing to Guy and his crew.

The players were all tipping me red/green at first and then, after I dealt longer and they got to know me, they started tossing in occasional black chips. After the game ended, Guy asked for me to stay (I was about to be pushed) and count out everyone's stack. There was over a million in play and he had staked everyone and was just keeping track of how much each of them owed him. Every time I would count down someone's stack he would direct them to give me all of their red and all of their odd green chips.

Midway through their session he had invited me to go eat pizza with them when they all decided to take a break...but I had to stay and watch the table.

All-in-all he was the perfect example of the way I would like to think I would be if I was rich. He was generous, fun-loving, and he treated all people with respect.
__________________________________________________ ____

Back when I dealt blackjack, my personal best for tips was $6,300 in 40 minutes.
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12-05-2013 , 04:25 PM
That must've felt so good. Can I ask how you got to deal all those games starting out from the beginning? If it's not too personal, of course.
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12-05-2013 , 05:05 PM
Yeah, ok, I'm jelly
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12-05-2013 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DecisionMade
That must've felt so good. Can I ask how you got to deal all those games starting out from the beginning? If it's not too personal, of course.
Sure! I've never really told my story before, so forgive me if I ramble!

I started off dealing blackjack, part-time, at 18. I worked my way up to full time by the end of my first year. At 20, I wanted to learn more, so I moved to another state briefly because they had all of the games plus you didn't have to be 21. I learned pretty much all of the carnival games and roulette and had started learning craps...but the money sucked there and I got an offer to go back to my old job and they would treat it like a leave of absence. So I went back. I stayed there for 7 years.

Then I moved to another casino that had other games. The money was slightly less, but the housing market was much cheaper. It made more sense as far as family life went, plus I wanted more variety than just dealing blackjack. At the new job I started off dealing all of the games except craps and poker. The first chance I got, I took the craps class and learned/loved craps. I dealt craps pretty much for 2 years straight until the offered a (rare) poker training class. I thought poker would be boring compared to craps, but the money was better as poker dealers kept their own but pit dealers were pooled. I passed and somehow got a spot dealing poker Fri/Sat/Sun nights. We mostly ran 1/2 NL and 3/6 limit. Occasionally we would have an Omaha game. *During this time, I also went to school online for small business/entrepreneurship.

After a couple years in poker, word spread that a racetrack/card club would be opening an hour away and that they would have 25 tables and hiring for all positions. Up to this point I had only worked in native casinos...I never really had a desire to move up as the money wasn't that great and there was a limit to growth if you were not native. I decided to apply at the new place...I applied for dealer and supervisor.

I got in as a dual-rate when Running Aces opened in 2008. For those of you that have been in a place when it first opens, you know that things aren't always that smooth. I am kind of a techie, so I offered to help make some excel sheets and other things for the Tournament Director to help make things easier...as time went on they had me start running tournaments as well.

One of the people that I worked with here had been dealing in the PCA for several years. I asked about it because it seemed like it would be pretty cool, and they said you have to be able to deal everything (I had mostly only known limit/no-limit/spread-limit hold'em and limit omaha and stud. He directed me to someone in our area that trains those games (and also works at the PCA). I learned Badugi, Badaci, Pot-Limit, and deuce to seven triple draw and I applied via email to get into the PCA. I was told that the waiting list was several years long...

By some miracle, the PCA increased their events the next year (pre BF) and they brought on more dealers...I got an invite.

The first year I was there, I dealt mostly 1/2 NL and the main event. I was pretty impressed by the staff at the PCA as there were dealers and floors there that are shift managers, tournament directors, and floors from a lot of prominent places. They also announced to the dealing staff how impressed they were with them as the first 3 days, there were 0 floor calls due to dealer error...with 100+ (at times) tables going 17 hours a day, that is pretty amazing huh? I was also told that once you were in the PCA, you would remain in unless you messed up.

The next year, they were much more comfortable with me and I dealt pretty much anything they threw at me (including Guy's private game).

In 2011 they told me that they picked me to deal the final table for the main event. This was a pretty big deal for me, not only because it was a televised final table, but because they were doing something different that year. It was the first televised table being broadcast live with hole cards. They sequestered 3 of us into a locked area and swept us for electronic devices. We were informed that we would be there until the final table was done. It ended up being a total of 14 hours!

When I first got into the box and they had all the cameras on me, one of the camera men says "You are being broadcast live all over the world...don't mess up!" I'm not sure I have ever been more nervous in my life. I wondered why I had agreed to do it since the money was not any better and if I did mess up in some horrible way, I would never live it down... Thankfully, I did not! I ended up dealing the winning hand to Galen Hall for 2.3 million.

Post bf, the PCA slowed down a bit and they reduced the staff, but I have been fortunate to remain a part of it and am looking forward to going back next month!

At Running Aces, things changed a bit and I have been the Tournament Director for a couple years now. We run 15 tournaments a week and usually at least one event per month. I also run our facebook and twitter accounts, so I stay real busy...

I have been in the industry for over 16 years now...

Thanks for reading if you made it down this far!!

Tristan
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12-05-2013 , 07:01 PM
Thanks for the messages!

Start Monday

Got uniform and did all the health and safety / fire stuff / completing contract etc tonight.

Looking forward to it.
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