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02-25-2016 , 09:47 PM

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parisron

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There is no rule I have seen or heard saying you can't use an app or whatever to calculate equity or whatever in poker. I don't think I have ever seen anyone do it. My point is that whether there is some unwritten poker rule against it or not, I don't think anything would happen unless there is a rule against using a cell phone or electronic device while in a hand, which probably is the case in a lot of places.

Jigsaw said try using an app on BJ and see what happens and I am saying yes, that is the casinos money so they care and will exit you for that.

Someone else quoted a rule but that sounds like a casino rule and not specific to poker.

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02-25-2016 , 09:50 PM

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parisron

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Also some places say No Texting at the table. Oh I am not texting I am:
blogging
forum posting
facebook posting
tweeting
googling
writing in journal
emailing
etc.

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02-25-2016 , 11:08 PM

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ReidLockhart

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Originally Posted by parisron

Jigsaw said try using an app on BJ and see what happens and I am saying yes, that is the casinos money so they care and will exit you for that.

You failed to pick up on the point of his post which was clearly "lol good luck beating an unbeatable game. They let you use stuff because it's irrelevant"

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02-25-2016 , 11:16 PM

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browni3141

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

if you need help from a calculator whether to go all in pf or not, let me know what table your playing at

Not sure if serious...

This would be useful pre-flop as well as post. Lol at acting like all pre-flop decisions are trivial.

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02-25-2016 , 11:24 PM

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Lattimer

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It's a moot point since you can't use a calculator mid-hand anyway.

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02-26-2016 , 02:43 AM

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volcano41

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You are supposed to be smart, and run hands over and over so you get a good feel for different situations. You do this AWAY from the table, then you learn to apply it real time.

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02-26-2016 , 09:31 AM

#32

KINGDMERR

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

It's a moot point since you can't use a calculator mid-hand anyway.

Says who?

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02-26-2016 , 09:59 AM

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Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by KINGDMERR

Says who?

Says every poker room I've ever been in. You can use electronic devices at the table but NOT while you're in a hand.

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02-26-2016 , 10:10 AM

#34

Lattimer

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Originally Posted by KINGDMERR

Says who?

Says every single person responding thus far. Why ask the question if you're just going to ignore the answers?

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02-26-2016 , 10:17 AM

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orcusvox

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My local room will not deal you a hand if you are looking at your phone. They warn you then muck it if you don't put your phone down. The have signs posted that you cannot use any electronic devices at the table. So I don't believe this room. Would allow you to use an odds calculator during a hand.

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02-26-2016 , 10:38 AM

#36

The Big K

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Originally Posted by KINGDMERR

Says who?

Nevada state law for starters. And I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all, states' gambling laws wouldn't allow it as Nevada gambling laws are the basis for most other states' gambling laws.

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Well if you are in Nevada here is one

NRS 465.075 Use or possession of device, software or hardware to obtain advantage at playing game prohibited. It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:

1. Projects the outcome of the game;

2. Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;

3. Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or

4. Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,

except as may be made available as part of an approved game or otherwise permitted by the Commission.

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02-26-2016 , 11:46 AM

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ATrainBoston

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That's a pretty vague law. You could even interpret it to mean you can't look at a chart on your phone or do a basic calculation in between hands.

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02-26-2016 , 12:14 PM

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orcusvox

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I don't see how that kawasaki could possibly be considered vague.

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02-26-2016 , 02:02 PM

#39

albedoa

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Originally Posted by parisron

There is no rule I have seen or heard saying you can't use an app or whatever to calculate equity or whatever in poker.

My dude, not only did Jigsaw's point fly right over your head, but this is how golden retrievers end up playing basketball in traditionally human leagues.

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02-26-2016 , 02:09 PM

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otatop

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Originally Posted by volcano41

You are supposed to be smart, and run hands over and over so you get a good feel for different situations. You do this AWAY from the table, then you learn to apply it real time.

You'd think someone who plays "the highest stakes on the internet" would have mastered this trivial skill by now.

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02-26-2016 , 02:28 PM

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Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by otatop

You'd think someone who plays "the highest stakes on the internet" would have mastered this trivial skill by now.

Please don't coach the fish (especially the whales)

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02-28-2016 , 08:10 PM

#42

Degenx2

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What would happen if you printed out a nash fold/shove chart and brought it into a game I wonder?

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02-28-2016 , 08:58 PM

#43

Clayton

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Originally Posted by KINGDMERR

Is it against the rules to run a sim in live mtt or cg mid hand? I.e stoving a preflop spot in mtt vs all in.

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02-28-2016 , 09:01 PM

#44

xMars

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Originally Posted by KINGDMERR

Lol i play the highest stakes on the internet. Ur always welcomw on my tables.

yes clearly

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02-28-2016 , 10:48 PM

#45

KarlZ

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Originally Posted by Degenx2

What would happen if you printed out a nash fold/shove chart and brought it into a game I wonder?

Iirc Doug Polk did that in some tournament, so I guess it's ok. Charts, books, etc have not been held to violate device statutes that prohibit computers.

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