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06-10-2008 , 10:07 PM
Seriously, take a break. Then get three guys that are really good and that you've never spoken to before. Get to know these guys, befriend them. After you can start really modeling their poker evolutions.

What I am saying is that if you just bought Poker Ace Hud, you wanna go back to a laggish typa play, you really dont know the fundamentals of UNL...so you could benefit from a couple of good players laughing at you a bit and suggesting a couple of directions to try...cuz only an idiot keeps on doing the same thing if its not working.

You ought to PM me, cuz I would have a ****load of more advice to tell ya buddy, but i wont here.
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06-16-2008 , 09:03 AM
Thing is man... for every guy you see posting a 100k month, think of how many are losing, or barely winning, earning minimum wage.

For regular people, poker's tough. Don't compare yourself to CTS, Durr, etc. Those guys are exceptional, and if it were that easy, everyone would be doing it. Be glad its not that easy.

Think about poker like golf. There's only one tiger woods, but luckily, the rest of us are still able to enjoy playing it. It should also be a personal battle with yourself, not a competition with others.. (In golf you play the course.) In poker of course you play your opponents, but don't worry about someone else having a better win rate, etc..

If you're beating whatever stakes you are, and not constantly redepositing, be happy with that.

WRT your play. Develop your own style. Have fun. Learn the fundamentals of course.
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06-16-2008 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by obiedman
im sorry, but i just cant ignore how stupid this comment really is. HUDs are not the end all, be all of playing online poker. people can, and do, win without them. i havent played with a hud in a very very long time, and i've been doing very well.

fwiw, this is probably my favorite thread in 2p2 history, and it's about this exact thing http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...rt=&PHPSESSID=
QFT, great post and link. It's easy to get caught up in the 'ideal stats' and such but as long as your thinking is sound, let the numbers fall where they may.
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06-16-2008 , 03:52 PM
Try playing games that aren't NL hold em... there's lots to learn (and lots of money to make) in games like PLO8 where you can't just go buy a little green book and have it spelled out for you. I love it when those hopeless NL hold'em players step into my domain of split pots and massive +EV freerolls.
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06-19-2008 , 06:27 PM
Don't know if anyone has said this already, but your solution is to play live. The play at live games is absolutely terrible. Judging from your results online, you should crush live games, I dunno, but online poker I don't need to be the best at, but earning more every Friday and Saturday night then I do at my job during the week is gratifying enough to me. I use online as a training tool rather then look at it something to master.

Master live cash games. Online is simply a training tool
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06-19-2008 , 10:05 PM
If you knew he had a read on you as a LAG you should switch up against him, not play the same hoping to spike a longshot. I know he had a read on you as loose aggressive but if I were him I would repop it on the flop and commit so whatever came on the turn Im still putting the rest in, gutsy play, he had you. Live games are much softer but I dont recommend spewing like that even live, your better off betting for value. Too bad you didnt have a pair and a diamond draw on that flop you would have smoked him.
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06-22-2008 , 04:10 PM
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This hand below basically crushed my dreams considering how grossly I got outplayed by this TAG villain who knows I'm capable of playing back. He mixed up his range and really owned me. I just remember thinking that nothing made sense here, and then remembered thinking how easily he mixes up his range there against someone like me but I decided to still call anyway. Afterwards, I was thinking why did I bet the turn?
Can you say overanalyze? Villain had a big pair and wanted to get his money in, you went crazy with a pair of sevens.

It sounds like you've aquired a lot of poker theory and you need time to assimilate it.

I can make a suggestion, it worked for me. Bear in mind that you're not making money/having fun now, so haven't got anything to lose by giving it a shot.

Reread HOH 1 and 2 (the tournament books). Play some donkaments, whatever level you're bankrolled for. Pretend you know nothing other than what you just read in HOH (+ your experience).

It worked for me.

**** online cash games. 3 years ago they were a gold mine, now you've gotta be AAA and play 40 hours a week to make what is basically minimum wage.

I'm not saying give up, just try something else for a little while.
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06-23-2008 , 02:57 AM
don't let 1 hand or a few tourneys get you down, just clear your mind and approach the game fresh.

good luck
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06-24-2008 , 11:23 PM
When you wake up in the morning...try putting peanut butter AND jelly on your toast.

Works for me !
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06-25-2008 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dashieq
I use online as a training tool rather then look at it something to master.

Master live cash games. Online is simply a training tool
It is widely thought that online is harder than live but you find it a training tool?

Master live cash games? What is there to master, the players are terrible as you stated.

Could you master online? You will never know because you ain't gonna try.
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06-25-2008 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DrinksLikeAFish
**** online cash games. 3 years ago they were a gold mine, now you've gotta be AAA and play 40 hours a week to make what is basically minimum wage.
This is BS
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06-25-2008 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by orlov
This is BS

+1
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06-27-2008 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DrinksLikeAFish
**** online cash games. 3 years ago they were a gold mine, now you've gotta be AAA and play 40 hours a week to make what is basically minimum wage.
I have a crazy theory that online poker will get a lot simpler over the next three or four years. It's not that easy now, but you can still make $$$.

Like I said, crazy.
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06-27-2008 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
I have a crazy theory that online poker will get a lot simpler over the next three or four years. It's not that easy now, but you can still make $$$.

Like I said, crazy.
Any good reason why?
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06-27-2008 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jailblazers
Any good reason why?
Good reasons? I don't even have bad ones.

Call it a hunch.
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06-27-2008 , 08:51 AM
dunno everything about your situation, but just because you're running bad for like 30k hands doesnt mean anything. i had an 80k breakeven stretch (3 tabling) a few months after i first started playing when i moved up to pre-UIGEA party 100NL and those games were definitely easier than today's 10NL. i was thinking wow maybe i'm never going to succeed in poker, but i got through it and now i am beating msnl.
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06-28-2008 , 06:41 AM
Your original post, the hand you posted you really butchered it. Fold that 76s preflop vs 1 player. As played you almost felt you had to bet both turn and river to prove your manhood, right? When he c/raised you on the turn, the chances of you being ahead = a big fat zero and you call? Man...
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07-02-2008 , 01:44 AM
It's pretty hard to ever be as good as cts or adz but its not that difficult to become a winning player. It is clear that you haven't studied the game enough to be considered a good player. The hand you posted was one of the worst hands i ever saw. Just try to get a training website and watch there videos and try to put them on a hand and not just play yours.
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