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10-29-2020 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SweepstakesKing
First off david lyons is associated with Global Poker so he probably cant do anything for you on Chumba.

2nd The mailbox is a PO box and it does get full. My buddy sent 100 once and got 22 back so 2500 all at once is insane. The FAQ on their website says if you get them back it's because the box is full.

All you can do is wait.... and hope they dont get rejected or come back. They probably did get there being as it's been so long but it's still a possibility.
They don't actually stuff them in a box like you or I would get at a post office. They are put into a bag and someone bigs up a big giant santa sized bag full of envelopes wishing for sweeps coins.
10-29-2020 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
I sent in 130 envelopes on 9/1 and 2500 envelopes on 9/2 for my Chumba account and I have yet to hear back from CS or been credited. I followed all the instructions, unlined 4x6 white paper, #10 envelope stamped, etc, and dropped it off at the post office 2 miles from my registered address.

It's been 8 weeks and still no response. This is my first time sending in mail and my account has already been verified. I spent hundreds of hours writing them and not to mention postage costs.

What should I do now? I can't PM David Lyons because I'm a new user. How can I get in contact with him?
Next time definitely don't send 2500 all at once. You really have no reason to complain about wait time when doing something like that.

Why not every 100,200, etc? Also, whether you brought to the post office or not, if the mail is not processed in your state, denied. If I bring my mail to my mailbox or to any of the post offices within a 20 mile radius, they get processed in a different state. I need to bring them to a post office just outside that area to be processed in my state. Where is your mail processed?

Also, all 2500 of these had request cards filled out? 2500 would take most people close to 200 hours to complete with the request cards. Which leads to my next question, did you handwrite all of these? If anything was left out they won't be accepted or considered valid.

If it makes you feel better, I send for Chumba, too. I have not received any September credits. Chumba is significantly bigger than Global. Probably 5x the size, minimum. They are backed up. Definitely don't send 2500 envelopes all at once. That seems silly.
10-29-2020 , 09:42 AM
2500 is an insane amount of work. I’d save some money for physical therapy once your hand seizes up, but assuming a healthy paw, it seems like poor risk management to send that many without testing/confirming first that you are doing it right and getting credit. If you have followed all the rules - including sending from a post office that will process the mail from the same state in which you live, and not using a mechanical aid to write the insert cards - then I’m confident you will get credited at some point. But with that said, it really would have made sense to test it first. Good luck.
10-29-2020 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by negipai98
2500 is an insane amount of work. I’d save some money for physical therapy once your hand seizes up, but assuming a healthy paw, it seems like poor risk management to send that many without testing/confirming first that you are doing it right and getting credit. If you have followed all the rules - including sending from a post office that will process the mail from the same state in which you live, and not using a mechanical aid to write the insert cards - then I’m confident you will get credited at some point. But with that said, it really would have made sense to test it first. Good luck.
The part that seems weird is 120 envelopes on 9/1 and 2500 on 9/2. Why send 120 the day before you send 2500 unless they weren't handwritten?
10-29-2020 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BeerDrunker
The part that seems weird is 120 envelopes on 9/1 and 2500 on 9/2. Why send 120 the day before you send 2500 unless they weren't handwritten?
I didn't have enough stamps at the time. One of the envelopes came back actually because I forgot to put the PO Box's zip code and the envelope was posted from Virginia, which is the state my address is on my Chumba account, so I think I should be fine? I wrote everything by hand by myself for over a month every day and decided to go full throttle and send them all in.

I'm just wondering how long the turnaround time is going to be because I'm hearing anywhere from 3 weeks at best to 7-8 weeks at worse. I hope it's not longer than 8 weeks, but is that common?
10-29-2020 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
I didn't have enough stamps at the time. One of the envelopes came back actually because I forgot to put the PO Box's zip code and the envelope was posted from Virginia, which is the state my address is on my Chumba account, so I think I should be fine? I wrote everything by hand by myself for over a month every day and decided to go full throttle and send them all in.

I'm just wondering how long the turnaround time is going to be because I'm hearing anywhere from 3 weeks at best to 7-8 weeks at worse. I hope it's not longer than 8 weeks, but is that common?
Well as of right now Chumba is at least 8 weeks behind. Hopefully, with it being November soon they will credit at the beginning of the month. But nobody knows. They're obviously very backed up and mail is going super slow.
10-29-2020 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BeerDrunker
Well as of right now Chumba is at least 8 weeks behind. Hopefully, with it being November soon they will credit at the beginning of the month. But nobody knows. They're obviously very backed up and mail is going super slow.
Does complaining to their customer support help at all? I haven't asked them yet because I don't want to bother them but a friend of mine did and got virtually no solid answer on when.
10-29-2020 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
Does complaining to their customer support help at all? I haven't asked them yet because I don't want to bother them but a friend of mine did and got virtually no solid answer on when.
Nope. They won't do anything but tell you that they have not received them yet, and once they confirm they are valid and follow the terms of service/conditions you will be credited. Customer support has no involvement in the envelopes/AMOE being sent to their PO Box. Just have to wait. They will email you if there is an issue or when they are credited. Sometimes the credits come before the email though.
10-29-2020 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
Does complaining to their customer support help at all? I haven't asked them yet because I don't want to bother them but a friend of mine did and got virtually no solid answer on when.
Not really. If they are done correctly then they’ll get credited. It’s free money (basically) so just be patient.
10-29-2020 , 01:23 PM
You can blame people like this and Bawsten when GP lowers it to $2 per envelope.
10-29-2020 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
You can blame people like this and Bawsten when GP lowers it to $2 per envelope.
It will most likely shut down the site. Surely someone sued in the past to get it raised to $5 per envelope and they cant limit it or lower the amount. I wouldnt be holding significant funds on the site that's for sure. I'm even nervous having uncredited envelopes out. Hope it lasts forever but I wouldnt bet on it.
10-29-2020 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SweepstakesKing
It will most likely shut down the site. Surely someone sued in the past to get it raised to $5 per envelope and they cant limit it or lower the amount. I wouldnt be holding significant funds on the site that's for sure. I'm even nervous having uncredited envelopes out. Hope it lasts forever but I wouldnt bet on it.
If they take in $1,000,000 in GC purchases today they may have given out 1,100,000 in SC. So it can obviously become a major issue at some point.

The major issue is their casino games are considered "luck based". They don't list RTP to players. So the RTP on their slots could really be 70% for all we know. If that were the case, people buying more GC packages with free sweeps will eventually get tired of losing all the time.
10-29-2020 , 02:47 PM
The RTP on slots and blackjack is extremely poor, in my anecdotal opinion, so I agree with you. And I'm sure it is set lower to counterbalance the mail in abusers, but as you point out that is a self-defeating strategy in the end.
10-29-2020 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
The RTP on slots and blackjack is extremely poor, in my anecdotal opinion, so I agree with you. And I'm sure it is set lower to counterbalance the mail in abusers, but as you point out that is a self-defeating strategy in the end.
I have noticed that Chumba has been really tight for the past couple of weeks. This seems to be the consensus with other players too based on what is being shared on facebook posts. The main ones who still seem to be winning are the ones who can sink hundreds and thousands into the game until they hit.

I have come across a few people on facebook who said they were basically doing 100 cards/day. They must be unemployed because I can't otherwise understand how this can be done. I also read that someone who sent in 1000 had about half of them rejected because they wrote on the blank side of a lined card. I can only imagine how many envelopes people would be sending in if they didn't have to do the card insert.

Someone mentioned that sometime in the past, Chumba would only credit you 5SC/day even though you could still send in as many as you wanted.

I wonder what their RTP is too. I also am concerned about the changes to the mail-in policy they may need to make if more people send them in like a full time job. I definitely think sending in 2500 or 100/day is abusive.

VGW Financial Statements - https://www.vgw.co/annual-reports/

Last edited by RedStrip; 10-29-2020 at 04:05 PM.
10-29-2020 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RedStrip
I have noticed that Chumba has been really tight for the past couple of weeks. This seems to be the consensus with other players too based on what is being shared on facebook posts. The main ones who still seem to be winning are the ones who can sink hundreds and thousands into the game until they hit.

I have come across a few people on facebook who said they were basically doing 100 cards/day. They must be unemployed because I can't otherwise understand how this can be done. I also read that someone who sent in 1000 had about half of them rejected because they wrote on the blank side of a lined card. I can only imagine how many envelopes people would be sending in if they didn't have to do the card insert.

Someone mentioned that sometime in the past, Chumba would only credit you 5SC/day even though you could still send in as many as you wanted.

I wonder what their RTP is too. I also am concerned about the changes to the mail-in policy they may need to make if more people send them in like a full time job. I definitely think sending in 2500 or 100/day is abusive.

VGW Financial Statements - https://www.vgw.co/annual-reports/

Which is probably why they are taking 2 months now to credit. It's too much to handle and too many coming in. Plus they want to discourage people from sending them. If it keeps up they will probably end up taking 3-4 months to credit them. It just hurts those who do a few here and there.
10-29-2020 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerDrunker
Which is probably why they are taking 2 months now to credit. It's too much to handle and too many coming in. Plus they want to discourage people from sending them. If it keeps up they will probably end up taking 3-4 months to credit them. It just hurts those who do a few here and there.
I agree with you. I remember when they first added the card insert requirement, it seemed like my credits were coming faster. Now they are taking 2 months and that will probably increase to 3+ months. I can only imagine what is going to happen if the US has another shutdown and most people are at home again. I definitely don't want a good thing to be ruined. I wonder if these people doing huge amounts of envelopes are greedy or desperate.
10-29-2020 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
I didn't have enough stamps at the time. One of the envelopes came back actually because I forgot to put the PO Box's zip code and the envelope was posted from Virginia, which is the state my address is on my Chumba account, so I think I should be fine? I wrote everything by hand by myself for over a month every day and decided to go full throttle and send them all in.

I'm just wondering how long the turnaround time is going to be because I'm hearing anywhere from 3 weeks at best to 7-8 weeks at worse. I hope it's not longer than 8 weeks, but is that common?
Currently, 8-10 weeks seems like the standard wait time. I recently received credits for the few I sent in to Chumba on 8/30, 9/1 and 9/4. I was curious about Luckyland and sent in 15 envelopes and it took them 2.5 months to credit me.
10-29-2020 , 07:28 PM
Easiest way to stop it is to raise the playthrough requirement.
10-29-2020 , 08:52 PM
My first batch took less than 4 weeks and I sent them 1,000 miles away from my house because I didn’t know I couldn’t. (Was on vacation and put the stamps on as my wife drove and dropped there). I saw that wasn’t allowed in this thread and sent David a message on Twitter.

I didn’t send thousands though, only 300.
10-29-2020 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RedStrip
I have noticed that Chumba has been really tight for the past couple of weeks. This seems to be the consensus with other players too based on what is being shared on facebook posts. The main ones who still seem to be winning are the ones who can sink hundreds and thousands into the game until they hit.

I have come across a few people on facebook who said they were basically doing 100 cards/day. They must be unemployed because I can't otherwise understand how this can be done. I also read that someone who sent in 1000 had about half of them rejected because they wrote on the blank side of a lined card. I can only imagine how many envelopes people would be sending in if they didn't have to do the card insert.

Someone mentioned that sometime in the past, Chumba would only credit you 5SC/day even though you could still send in as many as you wanted.

I wonder what their RTP is too. I also am concerned about the changes to the mail-in policy they may need to make if more people send them in like a full time job. I definitely think sending in 2500 or 100/day is abusive.

VGW Financial Statements - https://www.vgw.co/annual-reports/
I think this is untrue because my friend sent in 100 letters to test it out with Chumba exactly 8 weeks ago and got an email saying they're crediting for 83 envelopes as of last week, so definitely not one a day if you do the math.
10-30-2020 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteclaw
I think this is untrue because my friend sent in 100 letters to test it out with Chumba exactly 8 weeks ago and got an email saying they're crediting for 83 envelopes as of last week, so definitely not one a day if you do the math.
In the past it was only one a day, now it's as many as you can send before the VGW group goes broke.
11-03-2020 , 11:10 AM
No sweeps from any of the sites in weeks now. It's one thing to be backed up, it's another thing to not be giving anyone credit for their entries for weeks at a time.
11-04-2020 , 12:35 PM
They just need to rip off the freaking band aid and drop it to $2-$3 or make people write an essay, poem, and haiku to get them. It's seems obvious that they're inundated.
11-04-2020 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
They just need to rip off the freaking band aid and drop it to $2-$3 or make people write an essay, poem, and haiku to get them. It's seems obvious that they're inundated.
There are laws on sweepstakes, one of which is they cant be burdensome. Courts have ruled a stamp and a notecard aren't burdensome. VGW removed the envelope limit and raised it to $5 a card, why would they do that unless they weren't sued and forced to? They would have kept it at $1 if they could have I'm sure.

It's going to end up reducing profits and they'll be forced to shut down. Someone will sue in the near future I'm sure and get the time limit on how soon they have to process request letters then VGW will be completely screwed. Sweepstakes usually have an end date when they are going to award the prize or trip so it has never been an issue before. With VGW sweepstakes model they aren't under a time constraint and could drag their feet forever and not process the envelopes.
11-04-2020 , 08:26 PM
Fendoff is $2, no reason why this couldn't be also.

      
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