what would i get banned for?

Why would users come to global when theyre lowering guarantees that kind of forces players to stop playing, it takes away their ev of time spent, edge, etc. you dont realize that? theres an inflection point of gtd prize pool that incentivizes players to play. traffic is down on all sites but having an over reaction to that by pulling guarantees way back almost 50% on most, will have a longer net negative effect on player pool imo.

Honestly if youre so emotionally affected by the way global operates their business and the users that enjoy their product, why in the world are you and the rest of "we" wasting your time engaging me and others and just purely hating? Are you so rich and nothing better to do that it makes you feel better to try to talk down to someone you dont know and about something you demonstrably dont understand?

Have a peaceful day brother.

And on the Global improvement thread you ask for it to be increased to $10? WTF? It's just a matter of time for them to raise your playthrough requirement to 20x. It's in their terms and you deserve it. Have a nice day yourself.

Lol my post was more to the users that kept saying up to 2 months, that maybe if you email them, because they may have misplaced them, since they have so many coming in, they may be able to expedite the process.

Then all the vultures that are against other people doing things even tho they may disagree with it came in to put me down for whatever reason. I dont understand, but i dont need to. Hope you guys catch a sunset or something cause youre clearly mad about something.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Bawsten- do you ever get credited for 100% of the envelopes you send at once? Only reason I ask is because I sent 80 requests in July, and they credited me with 38 on 7/31 and then 42 on 8/11. For August I submitted 140 requests and I got credit for 62 on 8/23 (odd thing is I never got the confirmation email until two days ago). I would assume I’ll get the rest credited soon.

As far as living near a neighboring state and having your mail posted there: I contacted support about this because I live in MA near the CT border and my mail is postmarked in Hartfard CT. They told me not to submit any requests until they can get a definite answer, then the next day I got an email saying my requests would not be affected.

Interesting. They told me differently and said I need to follow all of the sweeps rules or my entries would not qualify. I hope you are correct.

Just from reading this thread I noticed that responses from support can be inconsistent, but I have been credited with requests after the rule change so I think you should be fine.

I should also mention that I emailed them the day of that rule change.

I'm in the same boat, so I wouldn't take it personal. They claimed to never have received ANY if the first batch of requests that I mailed in April, and same story with the 2nd batch I sent at end ofJuly after David Lyons assured me that it was a one time glitch that they never received my entry requests. I sent him a PM about a week ago, and have heard nothing. Their customer support is frustratingly inconsistent and unhelpful, to the point that I will not send them any more correspondence regarding Sweeps requests, as I know I will just be wasting my time and come away irritated. I hope they get things figured out soon and until then, I guess it is what it is. Best of luck to all others still waiting for envelopes to be acknowledged and credited.

Apparently, they don't need to. They can just claim they never received them or that it takes a while to process them. I sent around 200 in July and never got credited for them.

Yeah they cant do this, especially when none of them are getting returned to your return address.

If thats the game they want to play thats fine but its an absolutely awful line for them to take.

Still havent gotten a response from support.

This anecdote will probably elicit various reactions. But after the sweeps rules update in late July, I decided to send a total of 50 envelopes between July 30th and August 8th. It seemed like a lot to me at the time but then I read about people writing that many per day. My hand wanted to fall off writing this many so I can't imagine anyone doing that every day without an army helping them.

Here's the point. I know this batch has been received because I received a credit for three (3) of these envelopes a few days ago. So GP has obviously received my mailings, and they are satisfactory, but after basically a month or longer for some reason they are taking their time to credit all of them. Do with that what you will.

To the critics I will preemptively point out I am a rec player who has not abused the mail-in system and has accumulated a decent profit on the site for a micro part-timer, not that that has anything to do with anything except to say I don't really need free SC and 50 envelopes worth wouldn't change a thing in my life, but would be a nice boost to my modest bankroll that I might or might not just give back to the GP economy.

Its very obvious theyre slow paying and giving the run around on purpose. The entire reason for the sweeps changes was to increase efficiency and make it easier on their team and to expedite it for the players.... this was pointed out in writing in their email when they changed the rules.

Now its gotten worse, slower, and theyre "losing" a ton of requests. Make of that what you will but im very aggitated at the way theyre conduting "business".

David Lyons what gives? when will things get better, is it this hard to process and hire minimum wage workers?

Games are dying as we ***** about this.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

Yeah I have absolutely no idea what's going on with globals envelopes, but I'm severely undercredited as well.

On 8/23 I got credited for 5 envelopes. 5. Considering I never mail less than 20 at a time I have no idea what 5 could be. Also didn't get email confirmation about it until days later.

I'm owed about 100 envelopes.

What would you be banned for? Because in their TOS they can ban anyone for no reason and you are not good for business.

Im aware of the clause, also says can be banned for saying disparaging things on social media etc.. Seems to me like a tough line for them to take unless it's an extremely egregious situation, look how that policy implementation is going over for GG.. GP would be better off just increasing the rollover in those situations other than out right banning people and ceasing funds. They upped the rollover for cash depos to 20x on the highest sng volume player on the site a year or 2 ago and that went over badly and eventually they overturned it IIRC.

I think Bawsten is a bit harsh, but funny and I agree with most of what he says about the envelops thing not being an issue and a part of the business model. A lot of what he just posted in the riggie thread is spot on too IMO.

What I missed in the financial report he posted was the figure for the professional sports ads and nascar sponsorships they did all I saw was ~$35k for advertising.

If they start banning players for following the T&C then I think they have a bigger problem on their hands.

You know its possible to send in mail requests and still be net positive player for global.

I see them having zero consequences unless you are going to pay a lawyer and I doubt you will.

I'll spell it out for you.. Regardless of your personal feelings about Bawsten and the GP sweeps envelopes thing, theoretically speaking if they were to ban him word would get out. A post would be made, perhaps even articles written, people would see said media info and play less or not at all on GP and also new players that saw it would be less inclined to deposit. BOL paying out the 350k bbj out of their own pocket after trying not to recently is a good example of what I'm talking about.

There are 4 logical explanations:
1. They are losing money in general and are delaying promo credits for that reason
2. Customer service is overloaded at the moment cause they can't afford to hire more
3. The promo budget is currently busto due to some people hogging it with gratuitous mailings
4. Customer service is overloaded and they won't hire more cause they are protecting their margins

1 & 2 are problems and the future of GP would sadly but obviously be in doubt.

3 & 4 are fixable and/or understandable. If it's a promo budget issue maybe they should cut it back to 3 SC and/or go back to the weekly/monthly max if that is legally feasible.

I haven't seen evidence that payments are slowing yet but I haven't cashed since mid August. If they are then add to 1 &2. Either way I am sure payments take priority over sweepstakes credits, especially to regs who send in requests every month.

They are losing money. For the 6 months ending 31 Dec 2019 they lost $AU 5.845 million. In $USD that's $4.242 million. And their report says its due to decreased global poker revenues.

https://www.vgw.co/wp-content/upload...ember-2019.pdf

Let's say they get 5000 total letters per day. Not impossible at all when some here are reporting they send in 50 or more per day. That's $25,000 per day. Over 6 months that's about $4.5 million.

Also figure the labor cost of processing each letter. If it takes 4 minutes for each letter and the employee is paid $15 per hour with no benefits that's an extra $1 per letter. So now we're up to $5.4 million over 6 months, over a million more than what they lost.

Yep. And the freeloaders are mad they're not getting their gravy train.

Obviously without knowing for sure, I think 5000 per day is on the high side, especially since going to the long-winded request cards earlier this summer which were clearly meant to help reduce mailings. I would blindly guess more like 1000-1500 per day, reducing your loss figure by much more than half but still a significant amount to feed what I think is probably 90% requests from regs. I can't figure out why they don't return to limiting them in the future if this is an issue.

They can not limit them. They offer NO LIMIT games and POT LIMIT games up to 10/20 with minimum buy ins of 800 with no cap to how many times you can buy in.

They have to offer ALL of their games to be played with no purchase necessary while also making sure the mail in requests are not unduly burdensome. You cant offer those games unless you give players a chance to enter them for free.

Thats why SC went from 5-6-1-5 over the history of them because when they lowered it people challenged it and lawyers let them know they have to up it to reasonable amount (5) and no limit on requests since their games are unlimited.

They can adjust it downward to 2 or 3 SC then. A Canadian stamp is about 1.20 so they'd still be a net plus on each mailing.

They can change the playthrough to 20x. But only for envelopes. If they do it for 'gold coin purchases' depositors won't deposit any more.

Then they should change the playthrough for envelopes if that is an option.