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09-05-2020 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
what are the chances a mailman sky hooks your letters into the river after seeing 50 of them a day for 3 months
JFC bro Ive had nightmares. I saw the dude take them out of the mail box last week and just throw them in the back immediately a big handful.. (he clearly knows what they are at this point) and i wont be able to sleep till they all get credited cause idk if he threw them out or not cause hes had enough. LMAO
09-06-2020 , 01:02 AM
Global Poker is very close to getting shut down by the way they're handling their sweeps envelopes. It's no secret that they don't want to credit them and lose money by the truckload to those abusing the system, but just delaying indefinitely/ pretending to have not recieved them is going to lead to a lawsuit sooner or later. Instead they should do everything LEGAL to discourage their use. First and foremost is they should add a ridiclous playthrough requirement-- you can make it absolutely insane like 100+ or more. Sweepstakes law dictates that players must have a free way to PLAY, not to conveniently cash out. Having a huge playthough requirement would assure all the free money gets circulated heavily. Why they haven't done this yet is absolutely beyond me. Secondly, if it's true that people are still sending thousands of envelopes, they should make the written part several times harder. Again, there's nothing against sweepstakes rules that would prevent them from requiring to write 500 words instead of 50 to recieve the free money.
09-06-2020 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NovaAce
Again, there's nothing against sweepstakes rules that would prevent them from requiring to write 500 words instead of 50 to recieve the free money.
Wait for it...
09-06-2020 , 01:16 AM
The money does get circulated a ton into and throughout the player pool and they rake it over and over again. Also theres a caveat to sweepstakes law which states that the entries cant be unduly burdensome to the participant. Its explicitly in there to discourage and prevent burdensome tasks like 500 words and 100x play throughs. I will state again, the 3 or 4 of you that for some reason are incredibly butt hurt over the way Global operates and the players that follow their rules (have even emailed with them and asked them if this was ok ahead of time, who asks in every correspondence how they can help promote and grow the brand) CLEARLY do not know or understand anything youre actually mad about. Please go read the sweepstakes laws in the US and stop posting nothing but drivel. Im done. I wish you guys the best.
09-06-2020 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bawsten
The money does get circulated a ton into and throughout the player pool and they rake it over and over again. Also theres a caveat to sweepstakes law which states that the entries cant be unduly burdensome to the participant. Its explicitly in there to discourage and prevent burdensome tasks like 500 words and 100x play throughs. I will state again, the 3 or 4 of you that for some reason are incredibly butt hurt over the way Global operates and the players that follow their rules (have even emailed with them and asked them if this was ok ahead of time, who asks in every correspondence how they can help promote and grow the brand) CLEARLY do not know or understand anything youre actually mad about. Please go read the sweepstakes laws in the US and stop posting nothing but drivel. Im done. I wish you guys the best.
I'll give anyone 100/1 if Bawsten doesnt post on this thread again within the next 48 hours.
09-06-2020 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bawsten
You should google "sweepstakes law" then you might understand a bit more. I think your example is pretty poor, given were talking about legal, licensed, regulated online poker on global and the laws which facilitate that are the sweepstakes laws in the US. Compared to an illegally raked live game where for some reason you wanna stake everyone for max exposure. Those are two things and shows your ignorance on the subject.

You know, quite a bit of pretty successful and famous poker players were lawyers before quitting that profession to play poker full time. Not all lawyers are uber rich and successful just because they passed the Bar.
I wasn't aware Global Poker was regulated. Learned something new today.
09-06-2020 , 04:38 AM
I've sent a few letters myself, about 20 just to try it out. Been waiting about 2 months now. Its cool, i'm in no rush. My old lady calls them " love letters ".
09-06-2020 , 12:48 PM
Love all these sweeps bottom feeders thinking they're gonna take Global to court for not letting them be welfare babies.
09-06-2020 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by upinmyhouse
I'll give anyone 100/1 if Bawsten doesnt post on this thread again within the next 48 hours.
I'd take that bet if there was a way to verify and you it but I also hope he does post again soon with some positive feedback about envelope processing he get's via an email reply from GP. I don't expect any credits to be made till at least tuesday due to the holiday but some communication and good news would be nice.
09-06-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by upinmyhouse
I'll give anyone 100/1 if Bawsten doesnt post on this thread again within the next 48 hours.
Be careful. He can partner up with another envelope king to take you up on the bet while he sits out for a couple of days. After all, they're scammers. It's what they do.
09-06-2020 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Be careful. He can partner up with another envelope king to take you up on the bet while he sits out for a couple of days. After all, they're scammers. It's what they do.
There is no scamming goin on here. There is something to be said for both sides of the argument, I agree that GP has planned for and actually wanted people to write lots of envelopes but I see how people think it's egregious. I also have noticed that a lot of people commenting in here don't seem too familiar with the industry, its history and also modern ways of doing business and legal stuff in America. There is a reason GP keeps changing the sweeps rules and it's not to make sure they lose $ and aren't complying with US sweepstakes laws, it's the quite the opposite actually.

The only thing im wondering is how Bawsten manages to write so many envelopes he must be in incredible shape physically and mentally. Most I've written is 35 in a day and that took over 6 hrs but i think with some time and practice I'd improve. 1500 in 6 weeks is quite the grind tho IMO but not impossible, would take ~50+ hrs/wk for me at my current pace.
09-06-2020 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Be careful. He can partner up with another envelope king to take you up on the bet while he sits out for a couple of days. After all, they're scammers. It's what they do.
If you've read the GP Sweeps Rules in entirety you'd know this is impossible to do successfully, but it is a semi a funny joke I guess. The bet would have to be for enough to actually cover sitting out to make it worth while. IIRC the bet was to not post in here for 48 hrs not to not write envelopes for 48 hrs, 2 separate situations.
09-06-2020 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
If you've read the GP Sweeps Rules in entirety you'd know this is impossible to do successfully, but it is a semi a funny joke I guess. The bet would have to be for enough to actually cover sitting out to make it worth while. IIRC the bet was to not post in here for 48 hrs not to not write envelopes for 48 hrs, 2 separate situations.
LMAO you didn't get what I was saying at all. One person makes a deal with Bawsten to take up the 100 to 1 bet with upinmyhouse, then Bawsten sits from this thread for two days, and then they split the money when they win the bet. It has nothing to do with the sweeps rules at all because Global isn't involved with a private bet between people in this forum,

During those two days Bawsten can fill out envelopes, grind on global, or post in other threads in this forum. So can the person who make the agreement with him.
09-06-2020 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
There is no scamming goin on here. There is something to be said for both sides of the argument, I agree that GP has planned for and actually wanted people to write lots of envelopes but I see how people think it's egregious. I also have noticed that a lot of people commenting in here don't seem too familiar with the industry, its history and also modern ways of doing business and legal stuff in America. There is a reason GP keeps changing the sweeps rules and it's not to make sure they lose $ and aren't complying with US sweepstakes laws, it's the quite the opposite actually.
Claiming that they make a profit from people mass mailing envelopes is the stupidest bullshit ever. It's just a legal requirement that costs them money. You don't see other sites doing it because they operate under different legal frameworks and it wouldn't be profitable.

Stop making excuses for freeloading. You want to do that's fine I can't stop you. But I'm gonna call it what it is.

Last edited by glogga; 09-06-2020 at 04:14 PM.
09-06-2020 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Claiming that they make a profit from people mass mailing envelopes is the stupidest bullshit ever. They do it because it's required by legal framework they operate under. You don't see other sites doing it because it's not required for the legal frameworks under which they operate and its not profitable.

Stop making excuses for freeloading. You want to do that's fine I can't stop you. But I'm gonna call it what it is.
I'll agree to disagree here. As Bawsten said ITT, there is clearly an inflection point as to how much sweeps they can give out and remain profitable. Have you seen the old banner on their homepage saying they've given away $55mm in free sweeps? Seems to me that they are proud of it and encouraging it no? why else would they have a banner saying such? You are part of the group I was referring to when I mentioned new to or lacking understanding of how the industry, business and laws etc work.

And I know what you meant by your solution to the foolishly proposed freeroll prop bet.
09-06-2020 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
there is clearly an inflection point as to how much sweeps they can give out and remain profitable.
Seems they've passed the inflection point. They're losing money. They lost $4.42 million USD ($AU5.06M) over the first 6 months of FY2020.

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Have you seen the old banner on their homepage saying they've given away $55mm in free sweeps?
Their revenues for FY2018 and FY2019 were $219M USD ($AU309M). But for the first half of FY2020 their revenues fell 37% to $AU50M from $AU80M the previous year.

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Seems to me that they are proud of it and encouraging it no? why else would they have a banner saying such?
Why does a business advertise they give out free samples? Because they want you to buy something. They don't want you to just leech off of them. Why did global make it harder to send a post and why the delays in processing?

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You are part of the group I was referring to when I mentioned new to or lacking understanding of how the industry, business and laws etc work.
I know how to read an annual report. I read them to make stock picks. You've convinced me you know how to make excuses for freeloading.
09-06-2020 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Seems they've passed the inflection point.
According to who and what metrics and guidelines, yours? Nothing you posted after what I bolded is even worth replying to but good luck and all the best! Just because that seems like a big # to you.... If you hate it that much and think we're gonna bankrupt GP then my advice to you would be to remove your funds and find another place to play. Your posts ITT aren't going to deter anyone from writing envelopes I promise.

Actually there is one thing worth a reply, the reason they added the cards, you're right, to make it harder. Now rewind back to the inflection point I mentioned and there you have the solution. If that solution doesn't have satisfactory results it will be found and discussed in the next quarterly review and adjusted accordingly. Or do u think GP is gonna be like "oh fk we gave out too many free sweeps now we have to close the doors whoops?"
09-06-2020 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
According to who and what metrics and guidelines, yours?
I read their annual reports. They're losing money!! Who doesn't know anything about business now?
09-06-2020 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
I read their annual reports. They're losing money!! Who doesn't know anything about business now?
they lost $ on one arm of their overall business on the last 6 month report they've not been a long term loser co, not gonna have a pissing contest with a newb like I said. Here's a few suggestions for you, maybe email GP and explain what you seem to clearly understand here and why they should eliminate the envelopes or do whatever else it is u think they should do. Or as I said remove your funds if u think the doors are about to close and play elsewhere. Option 3 is deal with it and quit making yourself look foolish. 4. keep doing what you're doing and remain looking foolish or "virtuous" as you seem to think, your call. 5 keep arguing and wasting time in here but im 100% sure your snowflake ways aren't getting anybody to stop writing and mailing envelopes but good for you to go on the record opposing it lol that's literally all you've done and are doing.
09-06-2020 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
they lost $ on one arm of their overall business on the last 6 month report
Yes that one is Global. They said they were losing because of Global and they were taking measures to fix it. That's why it's getting harder and harder for people to get their welfare money. Good riddance.

Look if you to send a few in, play some poker and either lose it, win and cash out, or start a bankroll that's all and good. But when people are sending in 1500 per month that's abuse, and they're doing to that pay their rent/bills.
09-07-2020 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Yes that one is Global. They said they were losing because of Global and they were taking measures to fix it. That's why it's getting harder and harder for people to get their welfare money. Good riddance.

Look if you to send a few in, play some poker and either lose it, win and cash out, or start a bankroll that's all and good. But when people are sending in 1500 per month that's abuse, and they're doing to that pay their rent/bills.
They could easily limit it to 1 entry per household like every other sweepstakes, or lower the payment to something stupid like a freeroll to an MTT, or a number of other measures. Outright denying people with no response isn't a good way of doing it.
09-07-2020 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
They could easily limit it to 1 entry per household like every other sweepstakes, or lower the payment to something stupid like a freeroll to an MTT, or a number of other measures. Outright denying people with no response isn't a good way of doing it.
they can also close up shop and run for the hills with everyone's cash like Lock or Full Flush did, which is about as likely and reasonable as what u said that i quoted to happen. The amount of new clueless so called experts in this forum continues to astound me.
09-07-2020 , 09:32 PM
[QUOTE=MicroDonkYT;56499492]They could easily ...insert whatever you want for over burdensome requirements, send nude pics for .25c per angle or make people write 100 page essays for 10c credits when postage in the US costs .55/stamp keep spewing bs and pretending like you have any idea what you're talking about/QUOTE]
09-08-2020 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
We have confirmation this truckload was just two days' worth of Bawsten's mailings.

      
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