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Old 09-07-2017, 10:01 AM   #51
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Is there no late registration in MTT's?
Seems off topic.

But with that said, there is no late reg with MTTs.
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:08 PM   #52
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Hi guys,

We can confirm that on our higher limit tables there was a modest rake increase a couple of weeks ago.

There has been no changes on the $1/$2 tables and below and in most instances the rake is still only a fraction of one big blind. These changes were made for business reasons and still keep us extremely competitive with other sites.

We appreciate your feedback that this should have been communicated more clearly than it was and have taken that on board. We are a new company and are constantly evolving so we value your feedback. To that point, we are currently updating our website and will ensure that all rake is clearly available to players once this is live.

For clarity, our current rake structure is as follows.

Small blind Big blind Rake cap
$0.02 $0.04 $3.00
$0.05 $0.10 $3.00
$0.10 $0.20 $3.00
$0.25 $0.50 $3.00
$0.50 $1.00 $3.00
$1.00 $2.00 $3.00
$2.00 $4.00 $3.50
$3.00 $6.00 $4.00
$5.00 $10.00 $4.00
$10.00 $20.00 $5.50

Thanks for your understanding and for playing on Global Poker!
you guys have miles and miles to go, clearly. the FIRST lesson to learn in this connected world is "BE PROACTIVE/HONEST/UP-FRONT". how you wouldn't know this is beyond me. this extends to the player experience which currently is the most glaring weakness of your site.

on the other hand, youre doing lotsa stuff right, like good customer support, deposits/withdrawals, fishy games.
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:10 PM   #53
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Global rake unbeatable at 2/4 and under pretty much.

lol at them taking 3 - 6bb per hand in their lower stakes games.

Phil Ivey at his best is drawing stone dead paying 6bb/hand
if youre saying what I think youre saying, the comment is laughable. the rake amounts are easily beatable, especially considering the skill of the overall player base.
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Old 09-07-2017, 09:50 PM   #54
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if youre saying what I think youre saying, the comment is laughable. the rake amounts are easily beatable, especially considering the skill of the overall player base.
Nope, none of the games are beatable. Players are super super good, only ever one or two fish ever in all 100+ entry MTTs. Edges are just too small. Stay away from this site especially if you are a competent poker player. They actually pull stats from the site and the most competent poker players are shot at dawn. Don't risk it.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:17 PM   #55
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Nope, none of the games are beatable. Players are super super good, only ever one or two fish ever in all 100+ entry MTTs. Edges are just too small. Stay away from this site especially if you are a competent poker player. They actually pull stats from the site and the most competent poker players are shot at dawn. Don't risk it.
not sure if serious.

I can only speak for 100nl and up, and I can assure you that those levels are 1000000% "beatable".
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:31 PM   #56
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not sure if serious.

I can only speak for 100nl and up, and I can assure you that those levels are 1000000% "beatable".
I think my comment on good players being shot at dawn hints pretty strongly as to this is sarcasm or serious.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:46 AM   #57
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LOWER THE ****ING RAKE JESUS CHRIST.
the short handed games are like impossible to beat.
they NEED to have a way to decrease rake for short handed games and HEADS UP or else there is NO reason for anyone to start a game. THATS IS BAD FOR BUSINESS
AT LEAST LOWER IT FOR HEADS UP.
AND RAKEBACK.
AND 5/10 NL.
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:31 PM   #58
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It took me a couple hundred hands of HU to realize it's not worth table starting on this site. Too bad this hinders overall table count on GP.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:53 AM   #59
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The rake is too damn high!
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:08 PM   #60
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Nope, none of the games are beatable. Players are super super good, only ever one or two fish ever in all 100+ entry MTTs. Edges are just too small. Stay away from this site especially if you are a competent poker player. They actually pull stats from the site and the most competent poker players are shot at dawn. Don't risk it.
+1 Especially the part @ dawn. Ive saw with mine own eyes
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:55 PM   #61
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Re: Rake is 5% uncapped?

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Hi guys

We have a 5% max $3 capped rake. 100 % guaranteed, I implemented this myself an decided we should be in line with the rest of the industry. If any of you feel that this is not the case then please send m e screenshot of whatever else you can show me that this is not the case. It set to 5% capped.

Thanks
this no longer seems to be the case. 10/20 PLO with TWO players playing is being raked $5 per pot. And, that's with a $120 pot. Single raise preflop to 60, and checked down, winner is getting $115. Almost unbeatable.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:00 PM   #62
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must reduce rake for heads up and shorthanded play.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:42 PM   #63
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Re: Rake is 5% uncapped?

PLEASE LOWER THE RAKE AT MICROS

5% 3$ rake is effectively uncapped rake at stakes less than 100nl, makes the games much less beatable / a losing game for most players
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:31 PM   #64
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The rake is definitely too high, the highest that I have seen online. Really needs to be lowered to a level that is competitive with the other major poker sites.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:57 AM   #65
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paid almost 20k in rake this month.. please change the short handed rake!!! just make it in line with industry standards!!! please!!!! everyone make this a priority to ask global for.. it makes short handed so hard to beat and its bad for their site too because it deincentives people to start games
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Old 09-22-2017, 08:40 AM   #66
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^they currently have such a short sited view regarding the rake. They don't want to cut into their revenue, but what they aren't understanding is how many more tables would be taking off if lowered. I'm speaking only from a PLO side as I don't play NL. Once a table gets going 2 handed it usually fills up within 5 minutes from my experience. The fish typically don't want to table start or play short handed and the regs like myself aren't wanting to battle with this crazy rake. You are so far off the industry standard...grow your site don't rake it to death already.
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Old 09-24-2017, 01:11 PM   #67
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Increase the rake so all regs leave. I'll be fine playing with the fish by myself.
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Old 09-24-2017, 01:39 PM   #68
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Increase the rake so all regs leave. I'll be fine playing with the fish by myself.
you will go broke trying to beat rake if it gets any higher so you will be the fish for staking
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Old 09-25-2017, 11:25 PM   #69
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Bump for lowering the rake...look at your PLO tables right now. All the 2/4 broke and you have 1 3/6 going. I was one of the people breaking tables 3 handed at both stakes. "Competitive rake with industry standards" lul
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Old 09-26-2017, 05:56 PM   #70
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Bump for lowering the rake...look at your PLO tables right now. All the 2/4 broke and you have 1 3/6 going. I was one of the people breaking tables 3 handed at both stakes. "Competitive rake with industry standards" lul
if they actually make their short handed rake with industry standards or just a little higher and not DOUBLE i would be happy
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:49 PM   #71
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Smile PLZ REPLY GLOBAL REPS: Consider lowering shorthanded rake

I believe this was mostly just an oversight. Obviously it is not directly in global's best interest to lower rake. But currently, players are punished for starting new games. This is not in line with any other poker site that I am aware of.

This is because the heads up and short handed rake is identical to the rake at a full table. When playing heads up, players are forced to go to the flop much more frequently. When people see a flop, they are raked. The average raked paid per player is MUCH higher when compared to a full game.

The problem with this is people will not want to start new games. Your chance to win is diminished the more rake you pay. This is actually bad for business for global. People might multi table more if there were more tables available. More tables = more rake, but starting tables is disincentivized, leading to a lower total number of tables (bad for everyone imo).

I love that global is rec friendly infrastructure, and truly believe this was simply an oversight when the rake structure was created. Anyone who knows anything about poker and rake will puke when they think about shorthanded rake, and not table start.

AFAIK global is the only site that doesn't cut the rake short handed. Please add shorthanded rake adjustments!

Edit: A great post from Rutledge Smitty on the subject:
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^they currently have such a short sited view regarding the rake. They don't want to cut into their revenue, but what they aren't understanding is how many more tables would be taking off if lowered. I'm speaking only from a PLO side as I don't play NL. Once a table gets going 2 handed it usually fills up within 5 minutes from my experience. The fish typically don't want to table start or play short handed and the regs like myself aren't wanting to battle with this crazy rake. You are so far off the industry standard...grow your site don't rake it to death already.

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Old 09-27-2017, 02:53 AM   #72
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pretty **** that this post was merged to a separate thread so that it wouldn't get so much attention
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:08 AM   #73
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Im becoming concerned that the standard rake across the board for stts, mtts of 10% regardless of game speed or table size, also the recent lack of reply to the ICM chop in the event of disco's q might have something to do with sweeps regs in AU and there's nothing GP can do about it if they wanted to?

Im not exactly familiar with the cash rake struc, but if it's a sweeps and not a skill game then rake making it "unbeatable" shouldn't really matter should it? I bet most, if not every single game on Chumba is "unbeatable" but people still play them apparently. Same concept might apply to ICM chops I'm afraid, I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:27 AM   #74
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Im becoming concerned that the standard rake across the board for stts, mtts of 10% regardless of game speed or table size, also the recent lack of reply to the ICM chop in the event of disco's q might have something to do with sweeps regs in AU and there's nothing GP can do about it if they wanted to?

Im not exactly familiar with the cash rake struc, but if it's a sweeps and not a skill game then rake making it "unbeatable" shouldn't really matter should it? I bet most, if not every single game on Chumba is "unbeatable" but people still play them apparently. Same concept might apply to ICM chops I'm afraid, I hope I'm wrong.
sweeps is just a loophole. its a skilled cash game
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:03 AM   #75
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sweeps is just a loophole. its a skilled cash game
ya but this can't just be what their attys tell them to say in response to everything. There has to be some sort of standards and guidelines, at least I'd hope so otherwise the goal line will always be moving. What about the pop up every hr stating wins/losses for the last hr? That's a regulatory thing.

And I don't think the new thread with the all caps title demanding a reply was worthy of its stand alone thread, i think moving it here was correct. Same content, just a fancier and more snowflakish thread title is all the new one was.
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