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05-27-2023 , 02:02 PM
Earlier this year I had a streak of losing 11 straight showdowns with AK and 13 out of 14. It was painful and highly improbable mathematically, but not impossible or evidence of cheating. It was a bad run of cards.

Btw, that run was at ACR.
05-27-2023 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
I'm not going to read a single reply or comment. You guys have proven that poker is literally all you have by sitting day in day out posting hundreds of replies on poker forums. Some people responding here have 7,000 replies. SEVEN THOUSAND. That's not a life at all worth living, haha. And of course when I see that next to a profile, I refuse to read a comment that is beneath me.

Keep being submissive for billion dollar companies.
You post more than I.




05-27-2023 , 03:02 PM
Just so everyone knows I regret making this thread and if its allowed wish mods would delete it.
05-27-2023 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirbustalotz
Just so everyone knows I regret making this thread and if its allowed wish mods would delete it.
Do you stand by what you said or do you think its not rigged?
05-27-2023 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeXzTeRiTy
Do you stand by what you said or do you think its not rigged?
The problem is I have no way of proving one way or the other so the thread was stupid to make.
05-28-2023 , 01:21 AM
I love these shill posts. The one fact stands above all others here, which is kinda what makes you guys those incel degens people think of when they hear 'poker player'. That fact is these sites are completely unregulated, holed up in the center of organized crime (Isle of Mann), and for some odd reason you guys are physically aware of this fact and can't do the... (irony) two plus two math.

Drooling incel: "My favorite streamer is running +EV so it's not rigged". Little tiny buddy boy, it's been pretty well known for about 2 decades that sites pay gamers to promote their sites. Similar to the same thing with twitch games. When a twitch streamer plays a game that involves 'loot' or 'drops', the streamer will magically get that valuable skin or a high amount of drops because a server admin has greenlit their account. It's almost as if they want people promoting their product to succeed. "Why would they ever do that, do you really think a company wants more money"? Lol. Drooltard

However, this is extremely basic information. But you guys are those classic morons who see some Burger King commercial with a juicy fresh looking whopper and start drooling, and then lap down that disgusting greasy limp burger that looks nothing like the one on TV. "Kevin Hart made a funny and said the burger is delicious, so it's delicious, I obey".

Poker Black Friday, Russian bot rings FUNDED by Ignition/Bovada/Global, superusers and admins playing on site accounts, fake bot players used to fill tournaments up and force rebuys out of whales, the list goes on. FFS, even Casinos have admitted they have house players they stick on tables to get fish to keep playing, and physical casinos are much more regulated than online ones.
05-28-2023 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerroo
Sometimes while watching twitch poker I look up random players on sharkscope. Always find the weirdest graphs, heres one. You're really going to tell me this person deposited 250k to acr, lost it all, never wins, and just keep playing? no, I can never believe that. Players name is "favors" too sure mmm hmmmm. And there are always 2000 to 3000 players in every $2 tourny on acr, I can't believe thats real. I'm sure within a few posts "favors" will be on here to say oh thats really me lol (an employee from acr will make an account callled "favors" and say its them...).



I think if you don't believe online poker is rigged by sites offering unlicensed illegal poker and every other kind of gambling they throw at you even when you close the table they say "bet on black or red" lol, you're more of a tard than a rigtard imo. If you just blindly accept that these unlicensed sites offering illegal gambling are 100% legit, you're more of a fool than a rigtard sceptic, or you're an employee of the site.

IsleofScamm its always like this on 2+2 and reddit, the sites use their "unofficial thread" as an ad for their site, and they bump them as much as possible. Any time someone posts about a site might being rigged, within a couple hours there are 5 posts after it calling the person "moron, tinfoil hat wearer, bad player" etc thats always the company line, and most of the time the accounts have 1000+ posts. I know you're up to something if you have thousands of posts (unless you're an admin that gets paid to work here). These people really have time on saturday to site on 2+2 and immediately respond to every post saying "online poker could never ever be rigged you're a rigtard!!!" lol no.

There are no laws about shuffling the deck, they can shuffle any way they want. All the regulators and licence issuers seem to care about it getting their fees to licence, they don't care what the sites do. Every site even pokerstars and ggpoker have house bots to keep the tables full and deal you coolers whenever they want, why wouldn't they? Their reputations don't matter, degens always come back to try and win no matter what.

Even the casinos in america can use the shuffle machines to rig the game, there are no laws against shuffling for action. Why would a shuffle machine need to be giant and have wifi if it was just shuffling? When they run "high card wins" for 30 minutes at the casino everyone suddenly starts getting straight flushes and quads in 100 hands... They shuffle the same suit card and big card to the bottom, they come out of the machine, dealer cuts the deck to bring the high cards to the top, and then the action happens. I watch the big million dollar games on youtube with no shuffle machine, in 8 hours there will be 1 hard with AA vs another big pocket pair, but when I watch online games AA vs KK vs QQ happens like every 5 minutes lol. When I go to casino to play, my KK is always against AA, my AK is always against KK, I get a King high flush, its up against an Ace high flush, there's no way I'm the most unluck player in the world, its the shuffle machines.

Can the average person still win long term against the sites and casinos? Maybe, but they do everything they can to make sure you don't.
It's basically mathematically impossible to run that poorly, even if he was going allin with 32o every time he had it.

I've come to the conclusion that forums like this are kind of like religious morons who get furious when you state that a god may or may not exist. To accept the fact that these unregulated sites, are in fact rigged... means to accept the fact they have been thinking poorly about the subject the whole time. To these guys, accepting that fact to them is such a blow to the ego that they register it as some primal predator trying to chase them down like prey...

so they attack back "tin foil rigtard how could you ever think an unregulated billion dollar industry would cheat their customers to make 50% more profits?"

It's hilarious and sad at the same time, how human nature works. "The guy with the fancy suit and 100,000 followers said it was true so it's true".

Last edited by IsleofScamm; 05-28-2023 at 03:01 AM.
05-28-2023 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
Poker Black Friday, Russian bot rings FUNDED by Ignition/Bovada/Global, superusers and admins playing on site accounts, fake bot players used to fill tournaments up and force rebuys out of whales, the list goes on. FFS, even Casinos have admitted they have house players they stick on tables to get fish to keep playing, and physical casinos are much more regulated than online ones.
This is all true. Despite all of that, players that have kept up with the times are able to make consistent money.

I would love to hear your thoughts on 9/11 and the moon landing.
05-28-2023 , 12:22 PM
The shill admits to spending 19 years spamming the same comments despite seeing multiple poker sites with reputations way better than Global Poker getting caught rigging and cheating. There was a reason why I made fun of him earlier in a nuanced way. And that reason is because of what he just wrote above. He just put all his cards face up.

7,000 posts, most of them 'arguing' with completely irrelevant information against people providing mathematical proof the sites are rigged.
19 years of doing this.

I think I'll be done here, because the guy is clearly mentally ill to be using a forum like this 7,000 times for 19 years.

My guess is he's on some type of medication. I pity him more than I hate him at this point. Wishing you the best! I won't be back to make fun of you anymore since it's not fair to make fun of someone who is so many levels beneath another person.

For some reason it does feel great to know I ended up completely winning the argument. Surprised the admins even let this happen. I won't be back to check here again since I proved my points now.
05-28-2023 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm

I think I'll be done here

I won't be back to make fun of you anymore

I won't be back to check here again since I proved my points now.
bet
05-28-2023 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
The shill admits to spending 19 years spamming the same comments despite seeing multiple poker sites with reputations way better than Global Poker getting caught rigging and cheating. There was a reason why I made fun of him earlier in a nuanced way. And that reason is because of what he just wrote above. He just put all his cards face up.

7,000 posts, most of them 'arguing' with completely irrelevant information against people providing mathematical proof the sites are rigged.
19 years of doing this.

I think I'll be done here, because the guy is clearly mentally ill to be using a forum like this 7,000 times for 19 years.

My guess is he's on some type of medication. I pity him more than I hate him at this point. Wishing you the best! I won't be back to make fun of you anymore since it's not fair to make fun of someone who is so many levels beneath another person.

For some reason it does feel great to know I ended up completely winning the argument. Surprised the admins even let this happen. I won't be back to check here again since I proved my points now.
You read all 7,000 posts?
05-29-2023 , 03:23 AM
Isle many of us are winning on global just look at sharkscope leaderboard
05-29-2023 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
The shill admits to spending 19 years spamming the same comments despite seeing multiple poker sites with reputations way better than Global Poker getting caught rigging and cheating. There was a reason why I made fun of him earlier in a nuanced way. And that reason is because of what he just wrote above. He just put all his cards face up.

7,000 posts, most of them 'arguing' with completely irrelevant information against people providing mathematical proof the sites are rigged.
19 years of doing this.

I think I'll be done here, because the guy is clearly mentally ill to be using a forum like this 7,000 times for 19 years.

My guess is he's on some type of medication. I pity him more than I hate him at this point. Wishing you the best! I won't be back to make fun of you anymore since it's not fair to make fun of someone who is so many levels beneath another person.

For some reason it does feel great to know I ended up completely winning the argument. Surprised the admins even let this happen. I won't be back to check here again since I proved my points now.
I really wasn't gonna, but I can't help it, lollllll, seek help immediately
05-31-2023 , 12:13 PM
(I'll never read a reply no matter what) It's already been figured out how all the poker sites operate. Yes, there will be winners. Just like every scam market, they have to give legitimate wins to a few people. Usually these accounts are scouted out by their social team, they will be streamers/youtubers/ or guys with 3,000 posts on a forum like the thickskull above. These are the 'referral' players. This is exact same formula the gambling companies use with all twitch streamers and youtubers. "I'm a winner you can be too if you are not bad".

I was working from home today, so I decided to do a $20 runup on Global since the interface is so easy. Keep in mind this is all on one table, within 4 hours. The only major hands I won was when a maniac or fish threw a stack at me with 1 pair. So I technically didn't win a single legitimate flop or hand. Despite going up 5x my buyin.

Aces lost 4 out of 5 times in a row. When you play really tight on Global they eventually hand you some premiums to get you to stack off and reload. Luckily I dodged almost all the allins here.
Kings lost 2 out of 3 times.
Set of Jacks on flop turned into Broadway straight 2x in a row for 2 buyins.

Only notable hand I won I rage called a 6bb bet out of position and flopped a straight flush. The chances of this after all those other hands is simply not possible mathematically.

The only hands I won during this session was a maniac rage allining after getting coolered. So I basically went 4 hours without winning a single hand.

Somehow I ran the $20 up to $140 during this insane bad beats session, but ended up back at $20 (conveniently enough money to keep playing hands and producing rake, interesting lol)

This is the third time in a row I've taken a $20 deposit on Global and had the same thing happen. 3-6x runup followed by a mathematically impossible set of super coolers.

There is another thread on here where a guy went on a very very length and long mission to speak to the legal department and lawyers of Global Poker. He came to find out that they legally can't call themselves poker because it is a sweepstakes model, not poker. Sweepstakes mean that at a 6 top table, each player has a 1/6 chance of winning the Pot if they enter a flop. Doesn't matter if it's AA going against 23o. Each player has that 1/6th chance.

Now, you might be saying, "Well buddy if everyone has 1/6th chance of winning, it's still poker moron. Nice tinhat riggie". First off, sweepstakes aren't Poker. Second off, it says on their legal documents 'they have the right to change the outcome of any Sweepscoin games at any moment during action'.

And as many other users have noted, at the highest stakes on Global they seem to alter the action and RNG less. At the places the majority of users play like mid level stakes and micros, there is more action on 1 tabletop in a couple hours than you will see in couple months playing at Vegas. And no, it's not because of volume.

It's really interesting how people have this weird notion of honor that a company whose sole source of income is rake and deposits, while being COMPLETELY unregulated, would care about them. "Hmmm, if we increase action pots it shows that we make 50% more income and can't be legally prosecuted especially if we hide hand history and ban datamining". "Nah, let's not make 50% more profits".

Another thing to consider is the 'free $$$' model. Let's say there are 50,000 users that use the site weekly. They hand out $3 in free coins to each user. I can't think of a single company on Earth that hands over $150,000 a ****ing week, $600,000 a month, FOR FREE.

Think about their mail-in system, too. I can't think of a single company on Earth that tells you 'yeah write us a letter that costs 25 cents with a stamp and we'll hand you $5'.

My entire discord group of Poker friends and myself have seen this same pattern every single session at Global. Doesn't matter if you position yourself at the fishiest table known to man. You will run it up 3-6x, and get a string of mathematically impossible coolers that bring you back down to deposit. Various members of our group have tried so many different ways to not have our stacks get obliterated from going down to micros with a min buyin to simply Allinning with all premiums before the flop. It doesn't matter which way you do it, the stack ends up gone. I fail to believe that a group of people who make their living playing Live poker, and also play on other sites, can all be 'losers'. The other thing is just how soft Global is. As I said, doesn't matter if you sit yourself next to 3 fish, eventually that stack will go down.

There's also this to keep in mind. Rake actually has literally no value to the website itself. The only value that comes with the rake is the eventual DEPOSIT. And the player needs to lose their stack to re-deposit. This is why they introduced the 30% rakeback. They probably noticed a decline in players and knew this could drag a few more back to lose a few more hundreds.

Just trust your gut with Global, and treat it like it is, Carnival/Sweepstakes poker. I only play with a $20 buyin once a week and to be fair, I do get several hours of 'entertainment' out of that $20. But it is in no way any form of cards or poker. Just a visual sweepstakes.

Last edited by IsleofScamm; 05-31-2023 at 12:22 PM.
05-31-2023 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
bet
I wouldn't have bet either but anyone that did just lost.
05-31-2023 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
(I'll never read a reply no matter what) It's already been figured out how all the poker sites operate. Yes, there will be winners. Just like every scam market, they have to give legitimate wins to a few people. Usually these accounts are scouted out by their social team, they will be streamers/youtubers/ or guys with 3,000 posts on a forum like the thickskull above. These are the 'referral' players. This is exact same formula the gambling companies use with all twitch streamers and youtubers. "I'm a winner you can be too if you are not bad".
I guess I am a referral player on every site I have ever played on for the last 15 years. Even the sites that were anonymous or I didn't use my own personal info. It's better to be lucky than good!

Thanks for your insights IsleofScamm.
05-31-2023 , 03:52 PM
I found about 7 or 8 referral codes and I just started on here. Literally free money. Some of them are really good. There was also a Coinbase gift card withdraw option with a bonus % for more free money instead of transferring to your bank account. The variance has been quite insane on this site for me already but the horrendous play and generous bonuses/rakeback make it a superior option to Bovada and ACR, IMO.
05-31-2023 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
(I'll never read a reply no matter what).

Poker is alive and well. Everyone thinks they are part of the winning minority and when they aren't... it must be rigged
05-31-2023 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
Just trust your gut with Global, and treat it like it is, Carnival/Sweepstakes poker. I only play with a $20 buyin once a week and to be fair, I do get several hours of 'entertainment' out of that $20. But it is in no way any form of cards or poker. Just a visual sweepstakes.
This is it!

At 10 NL with $20 bankroll, you risk of ruin is near certain, well over 90% even if you are one of the best players in the world.

I figure the $1 tournaments or $1.10 SnG would be better to try to build a bankroll, but still have an extremely high risk of ruin, even fir word class players.

If you want to have a chance you need at least 10 buy ins(more if you multi table) at the cash games, I would guess 20 buy ins for SnGs and 40 buy ins for tournaments.

Again sample size is important. With the information you have given, i would conclude you sample size is tiny.
05-31-2023 , 08:34 PM
I'm not going to read a single reply, that's beneath me since shills will be shills.

When you actually sit down, take a breath (I know poker players lack cardio and bloodflow- hence why most of you are bald and ugly, LOL), and think about it... almost every single major poker site has been caught cheating on the developer side. Even Igniton cheated, apparently anonymous bots clearing stacks wasn't enough for them. They were stealing big blinds off all their zoom players. I think that thread is actually on here somewhere, maybe just on reddit.

For those who don't want to deal with shills,

google these
Poker Black Friday scam
The Ultimate Bet Scam
Poker Bot Rings Scam
Poker Superuser scam
888 Poker scam
Poker Bros scam
GG poker scam
ACR ace on river big pot statistic (around 50% despite being a maximum of ~10% chance)
Pokerstars scam. Now that I think about it, there really isn't a single site that hasn't had some type of scam done by their management. This is what happens when Poker sites are located in areas they cannot be prosecuted (Isle of Mann for many of them).

When I can't even name one legitimate poker site in 2023, it becomes painfully obvious why online poker was banned for so long.

Also, as if it wasn't painfully obvious they are a scam site already :https://www.trustpilot.com/review/globalpoker.com

Almost every single five star review is a single review done with English that is clearly a second language. Oh yeah, and the overwhelming amount of 0 star reviews. Keep in mind, they pay Trustpilot to remove most of the negative reviews, so the fact there are still this many negative reviews is STAGGERING.

Being right feels pretty good.
06-01-2023 , 12:42 PM
Same pattern today after I used a free 'Boosted' and 'Rare Coin Bonus' that gave me enough to start at mid stakes. Magically the same thing that always happens happened. I could literally check call everything and win every single hand. Then came the card dead period immediately after being about 5 buyins up. Funny how it always happens around this number.

During this time, any hand that you have gets in gets 'safety netted', aka a super wet flop that even a fish knows that they fold on no matter what and won't attempt to bluff you. After about an hour or two or this, you are about 2 full buyins down. "Am I really going to lose 3 more buyins like this?".

Next comes the coolers. Two pair on a dry board? They got the higher two pair on the turn and river. You got 8's and the maniac has a huge range? He has 9's. You escape these hands narrowly but lose another full buyin. Down to 2 now. "Woah, this really is happening". It almost seems surreal. Everytime your opponent calls with a low pair on the board, they immediately hit it

You tighten up your range extremely at this point. And this is when the final KO's will come. All your boards will end up broadways at this time in your run. You'll be tempted to call down with sets. It all seems so surreal this point "Am I really going to lose with Aces for the 5th time in a row? Should I just not even play premium hands on here"? At this point, you realize you've missed around 50 flops in a row, with nothing connecting.

You get in the middle of a huge preflop situation with a great hand at this point. You end up saying out loud "Do both the super loose players really have AA and KK and they gave me QQ/JJ to take my stack again??" You fold, and luckily didn't commit much on this pot.

You can't make this **** up. I worked my way up to 6x my buyin again, followed by this exact pattern. I'm actually still on the tables right now. A wise man would just log off for the day and come back and lose the rest later. That's the other part of the pattern. It doesn't matter if you take a break or come back a month from now, you will be COMPLETELY card dead, dominated by 1 number, or get runner runnered every hand until you are back at zero. Right now I've gone 3 hours without a face card hand. Oh actually, I did get Kings. On the Big blind, where everyone folded. Meanwhile the housebot who is on all 8 tables is up on every single table 2 buyins. Funny how that works.

I just find it hilarious how this is legal. Money Money. Let me guess, this exact same scenario happening for the 20th time in a row is 'variance'. I don't really mind that much since this was basically a freeroll session, but it's still so goofy.

Like, they might as well just ask for donations or something. Just send me a video clip of one of their rich executives smoking a cigar on a Yacht giving me the middle finger "F___ck you we are taking some of your money because we operate on buyins". I'd honestly feel better playing on their site if they did that. Like at least own up to it. "Hey buddy, this is basically illegal poker with carnival odds'

The funny part of the algorithm is, it doesn't matter if you plant yourself at a table with 4 fish or sit down with the very best regs at that level, you will lose your remaining buyins to the same exact runner runners.

Last edited by IsleofScamm; 06-01-2023 at 01:06 PM.
06-01-2023 , 01:33 PM
Have you ever played live? (At a casino or poker room NOT some nickel and dime hone game)

Seems like you have no comprehension of variance in poker due to lack of experience.

Dunning-Kruger is strong with you.
06-01-2023 , 02:17 PM
Also TrustPilot reviews do not prove anything. All poker sites have an insane amount of 1 star reviews, I think it is safe to assume that most come from weak players who greatly overestimate their skill and have no real understanding of variance and statistics, ie Dunning-Kruger effect.

I think it is safe to say this is the category "IsleofScam" is in. He is certainly not "winning" his argument by ignoring replies, yet apparently in his mind he is. Again, I will refer to our friends Dunning and Kruger.

It seems like folks who regularly win at their tiny stakes home game against players who often do not know hand rankings and others more concerned about drinking play online where almost everyone has a basic understanding of the game, can not fathom why they do not instantly win, so the assume its rigged.

I have certainly questioned the "fairness" after a painful downswing. Yet each time I play through it and come out ahead.
06-01-2023 , 04:43 PM
I actually managed to get off the tables today before the rigged site took my final 2 stacks. According to my spreadsheet, I missed 23 straight and flush draws in a row during the past 5 hours, going from 6x buyin to 2x. The chance of missing that many draws is beyond mathematics. That's all the proof one will ever need alone.

Oddly enough, while I was carddead and forced to lose every single hand for 5 hours, I saw multiple loose donkeys get their aces, gave a noob nit the AK or KK and double or triple up. Hilarious how their rigged system works.

Definitely taking the remaining buyins to bankroll at microstakes for fun while I work at home. Carnival poker (sweepstakes) ftw!
06-01-2023 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleofScamm
I actually managed to get off the tables today before the rigged site took my final 2 stacks. According to my spreadsheet, I missed 23 straight and flush draws in a row during the past 5 hours, going from 6x buyin to 2x. The chance of missing that many draws is beyond mathematics. That's all the proof one will ever need alone.

Oddly enough, while I was carddead and forced to lose every single hand for 5 hours, I saw multiple loose donkeys get their aces, gave a noob nit the AK or KK and double or triple up. Hilarious how their rigged system works.

Definitely taking the remaining buyins to bankroll at microstakes for fun while I work at home. Carnival poker (sweepstakes) ftw!


no way bro, its beyond mathematics?!!? holy shet

      
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