I would bet he does get paid by someone for all his posts. Now it is possible he absolutely has nothing to do... ever.. or he is obsessed, but for such the astute business man he claims to be it would make sense that he gets paid. Either way shrug

i dont think anyone pays him but they should! i imagine him as the guy from south parks episode of World of Warcraft who kill everyone all the time (look it up) lol

I personally don't think Monte gets paid to post in the Global RNG thread. Global just doesn't have enough market share for anyone to pay for that kind of effort. Is big bad party poker worried that if legislation does get passed in the US that Global will push them under? Come on. Is ACR really worried about Global? For that to be the case, ACR would have to be worried about anything. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

But with that said, and to hopefully pull all of this back on topic, I bet the odds that Montey is paid to post here are higher than the odds that the RNG on Global is rigged.

ok... for anyone who claims global poker is "legit: (whether because of their supposed "RNG certification" or otherwise)... youre flat out ******ed or you are a paid shill of VGW. Its so freaking obvious (for anyone who plays real live casino poker) that the Global Poker RNG is SUPER flawed. I cant even tell you how many times I've gotten the same exact hand 2 or 3 times in a row, or defied the laws of probability by pocketing pairs 3 or even 4 hands in a row (probability of 3 pocket pairs in a row = approx. 0.02%... getting the same exact hand only 2 times in a row = approx. 0.03% and this happens every single time I have played) I even got a royal flush within my first 1000 hands (not straight flush, but a royal flush of diamonds T-A)

It is so obvious that Global Poker either has super user accounts setting up rigged hands, OR the algorithms are just programmed to pump out the most insane poker dealings God himself never intended.

The trend is... new CUSTOMERS buy in, receive an improbable number of winning hands, pad their bankroll a little bit, then all of a sudden they will take 1-3 bad beats back to back wiping their accounts dry. By bad beats I mean having their QQQ99 beat by KKK99 (if you dont follow that means KK vs QQ with KQ99x on the board), or it means that their full house gets beat by a four of a kind. YES these events can happen in reality, but they happen WAY too often in Global Poker.

Global Poker is an obvious scam for anyone who plays poker often, or for anyone who knows math.

I hope to God that the FTC will step in and either ban them OR require them to say Global Poker is "Simulated Poker" because thats exactly what it is.. simulated, its not real.

God Dammit! when will regulated online poker with REAL RNG's be legal again!?!?! Damn you Full Tilt! you screwed us all!!!

If I can get 30 hands an hour of TRUE POKER or hundreds of hands an hour of SIMULATED POKER I'mma take the latter every day

no, but seriously, gtfo

/shilling

How could you know which customers are new (maybe they usually play other games you don't), and, more importantly, how could you know what their account balances are? It sure seems like that is something that is impossible for you to know!

You know what, never you mind, don't answer those questions. Just redeposit!

Imma guess this dude doesn't know how math works.

I'm only responding because your argument about market share makes no sense. If Global is willing to pay hundreds of thousands on marketing campaigns to advertise with MLB and nonstop on facebook, they certainly would throw some cash at someone to rep their name on the poker forums.

Chances are Monty isn't the only one being paid.

All back to back hands a10h flop 2 hearts and top pair called by aq no pr all in he has 2 outs hits q on turn. A10 next hand all in flop 2 pair aq calls board pairs king I lose. Next jk flop k all spades k8 off calls all in rivers 8 he had no spade. So come on nay sayers global projecters rng isn’t rigged right!

Lololol, thanks so much for warning all of us. Any chance you have any proof or is it that your feels are just so strong?

That's a real quality post you made there Jethro. It's always refreshing when a brand new account shows up to share their uncorroborated wisdom. Keep up the good work.

Lol, @ Monteroy getting paid to shill. The guy outright trolls riggies and even tells them he is doing it. You could say anyone is a potential paid shill, but Monteroy spends more time f'n with the riggies in the poker is rigged thread than here, far more.

Part of the enjoyment for him is the endless retorts that make no sense. I mean, it's pretty obvious. He puts big fat juicy bait on a hook and almost always catches fish. Global has two paid 'shills' here, Joey and Kimbr. There is literally no chance they are paying him. He doesn't even promote the site, only laughs at the riggie stuff. I have to admit, he is entertaining.

Global spends mountains of cash promoting the site to non-poker players. Why spend ten cents on someone that is somewhat polarizing in a single forum that has maybe a hundred people following it? Their dollars would be better spent paying shills on FB.

The irony of that idea a forum called 2+2 is almost too much

Probability...how does it work?

2 weeks ago I called an allin in a tourney on a flop A93 with 2 hearts when I had the AhTh, and my opponent had JhJc. My flush misses, opponent rivers his 2 outer J on the river. Clearly a rigged RNG.

Oh wait, that was live. Poker happens.

Perhaps I am not explaining it well then.

Despite the advertising being done by Global (and for that they should be commended) and despite the fact that for sure they have money that could go to paying shills.... is the RNG thread, 129 pages in with 3200+ posts really the place where their money would be well spent?

I mean even on 2+2. Like what are the odds that some random person who has heard about Global and wants to check things out, gets on 2+2, reads the last page of this RNG thread, see's montey's responses and says, "Well I wasn't going to play there, but now that I have seen the case Monety makes, here is my money Global!"

Come on. You get that we are the nerds right?

Average Joe isn't finding this thread and then being convinced one way or another on the topic.

So then Occam's razor would suggest that Montey is simply telling the truth and here is for the LOLs.

Because for me to believe your theory, he is a paid shill for Global, means:

A. They care about the audience reading this thread (4NL-100NL crushers, no doubt. Oh imagine all of the rake money they make from this thread alone)

B. They are good with their paid rep only posting in this thread and his constant condescension of players who know the site is rigged but still play. A.K.A. Good customers.

C. There are other paid reps, meaning more of that rake money better be coming in.

D. All from a site that has max, 200 full tables a night tops? I haven't actually counted, but it isn't 2000 full tables. Keep in mind that tournament GTDs have been reduced because they weren't hitting them. $20 tournamnets couldn't hit $10K. That is 500 players, and they couldn't get that. There just isn't a ton of traffic.

OR

A. You are a paranoid who refuses to see your crack pot theories could just be excuses for your lack of skill or bad run of cards.

That last statement not a male member measurement contest either.

I am at best a break even player at 10NL myself. Got lucky and ran it up when the site was real small (1-2 tables of 50NL a night, max) and have been playing on my free $2 since Jan 2017. So I am not saying I a better than you, I have no doubt you are better than me.

But what I obviously have over you is an ability to think reasonably. Grow up, use your brain and realize you are wrong and are trying to find any reason that can justify your poor results.

Its tough being an adult, start today.

Umm wow that's a whole lot of personal assumptions about me... but maybe you did that to be ironic because of my assumption that Global would pay Monty or that Monty is somehow getting paid for his posts. It is also interesting that you are trying to discredit my point that cant be proven or disproved by trying to shame me with the same argument used against every poker player that ever issues a criticism of a system.

For the record I pulled my tiny bankroll off Global before the Paypal switch. After seeing the removal of hand histories, then the weird announcement of adding a new payer system through beta trials, I thought the risk of playing on global was increasing so I just left it alone. I mostly play live and occasionally play on Bovada or Betonline. IMO all of our US online options are terrible and I pray daily that Illinois legalizes online poker.

I was actually a big fan of Global, but I did criticize the RNG from the jump. I was documenting how often I was seeing quads on pocket fives when I first started playing. The number of occurrences were definitely outside of statistical norms. But I still made money on the site. Nothing to brag about though, I think all said and done I made a whopping $176... I'm guessing my hourly rate is somewhere like 4/hr lol.

No reasonable person has this level of certainty about anything.

Anyone who has the level of certainty that you and Monty have about Global is either

1. Incredibly naive
2. Has ulterior motives

There is no middle ground.

The fact you call people immature for being incredulous to the asserted integrity of trashy internet poker sites just reinforces this point. Maturity is showcased by increased levels of critical thinking and skepticism, not less.

People should be skeptical of the integrity of all sites given the history of internet poker. They should be especially skeptical of Global because

1. there are manifold reports of similar observations of the weirdness of the RNG and certain players
2. The site is relatively new
3. The site will not allow its RNG to be independently verified by players via hand history analysis

Not admitting, at the very least, the strength of the above points is pure silliness.

1. RNG was verified by third party that is often used in the industry.

2. Not one piece of non-anecdotal evidence has been offered. Feels just don't count nor are they taken serious.

Every site should always be view with a level of skeptical concern. There should also be common sense applied to it. I spent $400 on a legal opinion of GP legality when we considered investing in it. Why don't you spend $0.00 and use video recorder software to show what you claim is happening? I'd be very concerned if someone disappears as soon as you take specific kind of notes on them. That would lend immense credibility to your claims and something that would be a collective warning to every player. The software is free. If it happens, it costs you nothing to demonstrate it. If it did, you can take it to the bank everyone in the business side of this would be very very concerned, Monteroy included.

The RNG has been verified, conspiracy rigs are a joke, but the premise that someone can view your browser is real. That is very concerning. I would think GP and Cubeia would want to know about that.

That doesn't mean anything. It still can't be independently verified by players.
It's also totally possible that the RNG is legit but people have hacked it, or hacked the browser based software somehow, and that is the explanation for the seeming weirdness of the RNG. Let me elaborate. If someone knew the runout that was coming, they would stay in with extremely strange hands that made extremely strong hands by the river. This would make it seem like quads were being made more often than they 'should,' because you would see more iterations of quads since quad making hands would fold less often.

Observations of strange behavior is not 'feels.' Observations, especially by winning and experienced players, are direct evidence.

I wish I could do that for you, but you'll have to take my word for it. The player I took a note on disappeared almost immediately. I saw him the next day briefly before he left soon after I sat at his tables. I hadn't seen him since that day, many weeks ago, despite the fact that he was a regular, high winning multitabler who played for hours and hours a day before I took the note.

As for future 'proof' it will not be forthcoming by me. My account is and will remain at $0 after my withdrawal (which they thankfully processed) and I will wait with bated anticipation for the inevitable news story that comes when whatever needs to be found out is found out and posted here.

After millions and millions of hands play live and online I finally hit a bad beat qualifying hand on global my quad 5's lose to quad queens. For some reason not surprised it was on global.

#Confirmed Rigged Number Generator

The RNG isn't in the browser, so doubt that's hacked; but, the premise that someone can view your browser is a real possibility. That's closing in on superuser status. Although, to view every browser would be more difficult. I know someone that got caught, with his partner, hacking into all kinds of federal sites. He has assured me that getting into a browser is not that difficult. The otherside just needs to accept a tiny program that could be hidden in an email or link. You would never know it. The odds of someone doing that, reading your notes, and instantly leaving seem long. If a player had access to your notes like that, why not just play some hands that you will think it was just a coincidence and one time thing.

I'm pretty friendly with another network. In bsing with them via email, I sent them screen shots of 5 MTTs that I was KO'e one afternoon at the bubble. Every hand I was 93% to win on turn. The odds of that happening are super small, but it did. There have been no questions as to their RNG, nor did I have them. Playing online for about 15 years and millions of hands. There are times I ran unfathomably bad and other times I could not lose a hand, like Thanksgiving through New Year's in 2016 or earlier this year when I cashed 34 out of 47 MTTs one week. None of those confirm or deny anything other than personal feels.

Cubeia runs other networks, like Nitrogen. GP is the only site that tries to solicit clueless fish. The RNG is in Cubeia's programming and GP only licenses it. GP plays like PP did in 2005, when we often had 5 players seeing the river.

lol, no, it's not, you f clown

Please take a Logic 101 type class, and pay very close attention. This might prevent you from looking like a stone moron every time you post.

direct evidence would be something like:

- hey, I've collected 1 million hands and I've posted them online for everybody to see.
- My analysis of these hands, with the help of x software, indicates a non-true RNG for (y) and (z) concrete reasons. Feel free to duplicate or refute my findings with all of this raw data I have given you.

People would actually start to believe you if you had something concrete like this to show us. Of course, you could live one billion lifetimes and you'd never bother to undertake such a job, so, you know, nevermind, just request a 2p2 perma self-ban.

This is super rich. I read this line and just started laughing.

You're one of the least skilled critical thinkers I've ever met. I do admit that you're a skeptic, but to a ridiculous fault, like most conspiricists. I'm sure you have a whole bunch of hot Alex Jones takes on other ****.

I have OBSERVED DoOrDoNot being an idiot. I am a winning and experienced poker player. Therefore, we have DIRECT EVIDENCE that DoOrDoNot is an idiot.

QED

/A+ logic

That's not direct evidence. That's a conclusion based on convergence of circumstantial evidence.

Direct evidence is like a video or an observation of something happening directly. When an player runs an experiment to see if people have access to the notes system by taking a note and the player leaves immediately after the note is taken, that observation is direct evidence that people have access to the notes system. I could literally testify in court, under oath, about what I saw happen and it would be direct evidence. If someone had a video of someone cheating, that would be direct evidence as well.

Circumstantial evidence requires an inference. Contrary to mong opinions (such as your own), convergence of circumstantial evidence is actually much stronger than any piece of direct evidence.

Congratulations on getting it exactly ass backwards though. Well done.