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06-19-2018 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesk777
To everyone's eyes, based on how much you are playing, you look like a bot. Don't YOU think you look like a bot, from a third person perspective? Does it make sense for GP to let someone under suspicion to continue playing without proving themselves? If you notice yourself someone is playing suspiciously, don't you want that person to be investigated? If I were you and I was innocent, I would get this done ASAP and continue playing.
Jorj95 played 300 SnGs a day, DEF A BOT!
06-19-2018 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesk777
To everyone's eyes, based on how much you are playing, you look like a bot. Don't YOU think you look like a bot, from a third person perspective? Does it make sense for GP to let someone under suspicion to continue playing without proving themselves? If you notice yourself someone is playing suspiciously, don't you want that person to be investigated? If I were you and I was innocent, I would get this done ASAP and continue playing.
Every serious grinder has come to my defense and only their opinion should have any merit. Its the sea of braindead droolers that attacks me, or in other words people whose opinion doesn't mean jack ****.
06-19-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
that thing at the top of any computer after 2008 is a webcam.
On laptops. I figure most players who play for a living use desktops where most monitors that I know of anyways don't have webcams included

But, I'm fine with globals decision to have certain players do this. To prevent botting you're sometimes going to have to do things like this.
06-19-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOnlyHuman
Every serious grinder has come to my defense and only their opinion should have any merit. Its the sea of braindead droolers that attacks me, or in other words people whose opinion doesn't mean jack ****.
Serious grinder ?!?! LOL

I'll tell you what. Have a buddy tape you playing 20 minutes of 16 table sng, post it on youtube. I'll TRIPLE whatever you win for those 16 games.

I want to see a shot of you, the screen, and you actually playing - I'll look up all 16 game results on sharkscope and pay 3X.
06-19-2018 , 02:14 PM
I used to play 24+ hour cash sessions with nothing more than some caffeinated drinks and a few bowls, and I had a few weeks where I was on lock down and played 100+ hr weeks

I'm just saying it's possible.
06-19-2018 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOnlyHuman
Every serious grinder has come to my defense and only their opinion should have any merit. Its the sea of braindead droolers that attacks me, or in other words people whose opinion doesn't mean jack ****.
Braindead droolers? I dont play SNGs but I play at the highest stakes cash games available in US the last 4 years. My gut says, you have something you want to hide. If you don't cooperate with GP, you need to be banned.
06-19-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by orthoStice
Serious grinder ?!?! LOL

I'll tell you what. Have a buddy tape you playing 20 minutes of 16 table sng, post it on youtube. I'll TRIPLE whatever you win for those 16 games.

I want to see a shot of you, the screen, and you actually playing - I'll look up all 16 game results on sharkscope and pay 3X.
lol can I get this deal?
06-19-2018 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesk777
To everyone's eyes, based on how much you are playing, you look like a bot. Don't YOU think you look like a bot, from a third person perspective? Does it make sense for GP to let someone under suspicion to continue playing without proving themselves? If you notice yourself someone is playing suspiciously, don't you want that person to be investigated? If I were you and I was innocent, I would get this done ASAP and continue playing.
People are just spouting off nonsensical #s about the amount he plays. If he played 17 hours one day, they say he plays 17 hours every day. Or, if he only took breaks of <4 hours, they lump that all into one big 32 hour session.

After actually going through his games played for the month of June, I'd estimate he plays something between 14-15 games an hour and 60 hours a week on the high end.

I'm not making a conclusion one way or the other (since I have little to no experience playing with him) but it's ridiculous for these people to claim with such conviction that he's a bot/cheater solely based on his sharkscope results.

I do agree with you though that he should just do what Global asked of him. If he's legit, there's nothing to worry about. Ranting about it here doesn't help.
06-19-2018 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
lol can I get this deal?
I'm not saying anyone can't do it....I'm saying HE can't do it.

So .....No ! LOL

I believe most decent high volume players could probably pull of 16 games for a short period of time.

Before Black Friday I could do six hour sessions of 8 table with no appreciable decline in play. But those was a short session, I had the advantage of PokerTracker, and I was making more in rakeback than I was in the game.

So while I might bet you, I wouldn't freeroll you.
06-19-2018 , 02:34 PM
So this is what seems like he is doing. He is using a bot sometimes and others times he is not ( its why a lot of you think hes real player) Which is very smart strat if your using a bot so you can't get in trouble. It is in total 18 hrs of play and around 11 hrs of break. There is some short 30m breaks in between some of the sessions where he probably had to drop a load. So I do think he is playing sometimes but not the 2-4 time frame where he played 75 straight. That is bot player or having some sort of assistance to play that kind of volume on global. He struggling to play 10 games from the 7-10 hr. I was watching this morning hes not sitting a ton of tables to put in 75 game volume in 3 hrs. Hes picking certain ones he wants to play. This don't add up imo.

1st hr he plays 13- takes 4 hr breaking watching facts of life marathon
2nd hr 23- robo bot is ready for action
3rd hr 28- bot
4th hr 24- broke guiness book of world records of 3 hr volume at ring game sngs on global
5th hr 16- takes 1 hr break probably watching some pornhub bot
6th hr 16- bot
7th hr 10- takes 2 hr break as pornhub sucks him back in
8th hr 10- him play
9th hr 8- him
10th hr 9 him
11th hr 13 him
12h hr 13 him
13th hr 20 bot
14th hr 15 takes 4 hr break probably hitting the streets for some adderall /bot
then played 2 games in 1m
15th hr 6- decides to play as a human
16th hr 20- reactivating robo bot
17th hr 18- bot working in good form
18th hr 9- play as human ( gotta keep it realistic i so smart)

So what global should do is make him prove he can play 28 sngs in just in a 1 hr time frame on global and play all of them as a human. 2 to 4 hr time frame he played 75! Thats like a record on the site. So he needs to prove he can 75 sngs in just 3 hrs on global poker without using any sort of software. That is what he has to prove. Playing his 8-16 should not be questioned. But 75 in 3 hrs on global? This is not poker stars. That is a ridiculous amount of volume. These are not hu sngs and that would even be tough to do as a human to play 75 in 3 hrs. Unless he can do that his account should not active. ( the only human) troll name bot players tend to use.

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 06-19-2018 at 02:56 PM.
06-19-2018 , 02:38 PM
People that think im just defending theonlyhuman are wrong, I like that GP is checking to see if players are bots, I just do not like the way they went about it, thats all. Also, if somebody is supsicious that theonlyhuman is a bot, I think thats fine, but don't come on here and say the guy is def a bot, because you simply do not know that, maybe he just has a very high determination to grind, I respect that, just because you may not play as much as he does, does not mean their are not people that will, but like I said, I actually like what GP doing, just not the way they handled ot.
06-19-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
So this is what seems like he is doing. He is using a bot sometimes and others times he is not ( its why a lot of you think hes real player) Which is very smart strat if your using a bot so you can't get in trouble. It is in total 18 hrs of play and around 11 hrs of break. There is some short 30m breaks in between some of the sessions where he probably had to drop a load. So I do think he is playing sometimes but not the 2-4 time frame where he played 75 straight. That is bot player.

1st hr he plays 13- takes 4 hr breaking watching facts of life marathon
2nd hr 23-
3rd hr 28-
4th hr 24-
5th hr 16- takes 1 hr break probably watching some pornhub
6th hr 16-
7th hr 10- takes 2 hr break as pornhub sucks him back in
8th hr 10
9th hr 8
10th hr 9
11th hr 13
12h hr 13
13th hr 20
14th hr 15 takes 4 hr break probably hitting the streets for some adderall
then played 2 games in 1m
15th hr 6
16th hr 20
17th hr 18
18th hr 9

So what global should do is make him prove he can play 28 sngs in just in a 1 hr time frame on global and play all of them as a human. 2 to 4 hr time frame he played 75! Thats like a record on the site. So he needs to prove he can 75 sngs in just 3 hrs on global poker without using any sort of software. That is what he has to prove. Playing his 8-16 should not be questioned. But 75 in 3 hrs on global? This is not poker stars. That is a ridiculous amount of volume. These are not hu sngs and that would even be tough to do as a human to play 75 in 3 hrs. Unless he can do that his account should not active.
This is not evidence of anything, is jorj95 a bot? He played 3x what theonlyhuman played.
06-19-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
So what global should do is make him prove he can play 28 sngs in just in a 1 hr time frame on global and play all of them as a human. 2 to 4 hr time frame he played 75! Thats like a record on the site. So he needs to prove he can 75 sngs in just 3 hrs on global poker without using any sort of software. That is what he has to prove. Playing his 8-16 should not be questioned. But 75 in 3 hrs on global? This is not poker stars. That is a ridiculous amount of volume. These are not hu sngs and that would even be tough to do as a human to play 75 in 3 hrs. Unless he can do that his account should not active.

Hey you filthy cockroach its called low stakes hyper turbos. They run around the clock and don't go past 15 minutes.
06-19-2018 , 02:48 PM
To be fair, it was 10x easier to mass multi-table on PStars when you could stack tables and have action push the table forward, and use shortkey scripts. ****, I remember 24 tabling SNGs years ago on PStars no problem. So the jorj95 comparison is pretty pointless.

Also those saying "100% HAS TO BE A BOT". No. Settle down. I see no evidence that he's 100% a bot, but enough to be suspicious and think he should be looked at.

Finally, I find it extremely odd that TheOnlyHuman is so quick to snap berate any commenters that accuse him of running a bot, but has kept completely silent on the numerous comments about the possibility of him using illegal software assistance.
06-19-2018 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
So this is what seems like he is doing. He is using a bot sometimes and others times he is not ( its why a lot of you think hes real player) Which is very smart strat if your using a bot so you can't get in trouble. It is in total 18 hrs of play and around 11 hrs of break. There is some short 30m breaks in between some of the sessions where he probably had to drop a load. So I do think he is playing sometimes but not the 2-4 time frame where he played 75 straight. That is bot player or having some sort of assistance to play that kind of volume on global. He struggling to play 10 games from the 7-10 hr. I was watching this morning hes not sitting a ton of tables to put in 75 game volume in 3 hrs. Hes picking certain ones he wants to play. This don't add up imo.

1st hr he plays 13- takes 4 hr breaking watching facts of life marathon
2nd hr 23-
3rd hr 28-
4th hr 24-
5th hr 16- takes 1 hr break probably watching some pornhub
6th hr 16-
7th hr 10- takes 2 hr break as pornhub sucks him back in
8th hr 10
9th hr 8
10th hr 9
11th hr 13
12h hr 13
13th hr 20
14th hr 15 takes 4 hr break probably hitting the streets for some adderall
then played 2 games in 1m
15th hr 6
16th hr 20
17th hr 18
18th hr 9

So what global should do is make him prove he can play 28 sngs in just in a 1 hr time frame on global and play all of them as a human. 2 to 4 hr time frame he played 75! Thats like a record on the site. So he needs to prove he can 75 sngs in just 3 hrs on global poker without using any sort of software. That is what he has to prove. Playing his 8-16 should not be questioned. But 75 in 3 hrs on global? This is not poker stars. That is a ridiculous amount of volume. These are not hu sngs and that would even be tough to do as a human to play 75 in 3 hrs. Unless he can do that his account should not active.


I’ve played 300 games in a 10 hour span on global before.


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06-19-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
So this is what seems like he is doing. He is using a bot sometimes and others times he is not ( its why a lot of you think hes real player) Which is very smart strat if your using a bot so you can't get in trouble. It is in total 18 hrs of play and around 11 hrs of break. There is some short 30m breaks in between some of the sessions where he probably had to drop a load. So I do think he is playing sometimes but not the 2-4 time frame where he played 75 straight. That is bot player or having some sort of assistance to play that kind of volume on global. He struggling to play 10 games from the 7-10 hr. I was watching this morning hes not sitting a ton of tables to put in 75 game volume in 3 hrs. Hes picking certain ones he wants to play. This don't add up imo.

1st hr he plays 13- takes 4 hr breaking watching facts of life marathon
2nd hr 23-
3rd hr 28-
4th hr 24- broke guiness book of world records of 3 hr volume at ring game sngs on global
5th hr 16- takes 1 hr break probably watching some pornhub
6th hr 16-
7th hr 10- takes 2 hr break as pornhub sucks him back in
8th hr 10
9th hr 8
10th hr 9
11th hr 13
12h hr 13
13th hr 20
14th hr 15 takes 4 hr break probably hitting the streets for some adderall
then played 2 games in 1m
15th hr 6
16th hr 20
17th hr 18
18th hr 9

So what global should do is make him prove he can play 28 sngs in just in a 1 hr time frame on global and play all of them as a human. 2 to 4 hr time frame he played 75! Thats like a record on the site. So he needs to prove he can 75 sngs in just 3 hrs on global poker without using any sort of software. That is what he has to prove. Playing his 8-16 should not be questioned. But 75 in 3 hrs on global? This is not poker stars. That is a ridiculous amount of volume. These are not hu sngs and that would even be tough to do as a human to play 75 in 3 hrs. Unless he can do that his account should not active. ( the only human) troll name bot players tend to use.
A lot of this makes no sense and proves nothing.

To be clear, its not the amount of tables he's running at a time (shoot I run 12 my self), its the overall volume and length of sessions over the course of weeks or months, not a given session.
06-19-2018 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
To be fair, it was 10x easier to mass multi-table on PStars when you could stack tables and have action push the table forward, and use shortkey scripts. ****, I remember 24 tabling SNGs years ago on PStars no problem. So the jorj95 comparison is pretty pointless.

Also those saying "100% HAS TO BE A BOT". No. Settle down. I see no evidence that he's 100% a bot, but enough to be suspicious and think he should be looked at.

Finally, I find it extremely odd that TheOnlyHuman is so quick to snap berate any commenters that accuse him of running a bot, but has kept completely silent on the numerous comments about the possibility of him using illegal software assistance.
So your saying anyone that averages atleast 100 SnGs a day is suspicious, matter in fact, lets go ahead and just ban jaredpoker or any grinder for that matter because there suspcious also.
06-19-2018 , 02:56 PM
YES

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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
So your saying anyone that averages atleast 100 SnGs a day is suspicious, matter in fact, lets go ahead and just ban jaredpoker or any grinder for that matter because there suspcious also.
06-19-2018 , 02:57 PM
You quoted the post, where do you see where it says anyone that averages at least 100 SNGs a day is suspicious?
06-19-2018 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hodler
People are just spouting off nonsensical #s about the amount he plays. If he played 17 hours one day, they say he plays 17 hours every day. Or, if he only took breaks of <4 hours, they lump that all into one big 32 hour session.

After actually going through his games played for the month of June, I'd estimate he plays something between 14-15 games an hour and 60 hours a week on the high end.

I'm not making a conclusion one way or the other (since I have little to no experience playing with him) but it's ridiculous for these people to claim with such conviction that he's a bot/cheater solely based on his sharkscope results.

I do agree with you though that he should just do what Global asked of him. If he's legit, there's nothing to worry about. Ranting about it here doesn't help.
Ok newbie
06-19-2018 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOnlyHuman
Hey you filthy cockroach its called low stakes hyper turbos. They run around the clock and don't go past 15 minutes.
you should have 23-28 on every hr then shouldn't you?
06-19-2018 , 03:10 PM
the guy who thought people were cheating because they always sat to his left in cash games has a lot of strong opinions
06-19-2018 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
A lot of this makes no sense and proves nothing.

To be clear, its not the amount of tables he's running at a time (shoot I run 12 my self), its the overall volume and length of sessions over the course of weeks or months, not a given session.
No its the pattern he is showing its not consistent a lot of times he struggling 10 games in a hr. I am going to show this to global and tell them he has prove he can play 75 games straight in 3 hrs as a human on global. This isn't poker stars its not full of traffic. He has to have a ton of tables open to get 75 games in just 3 hrs. He better not be using hot keys cause thats using software. he can't do that.
06-19-2018 , 03:20 PM
anybody could play 75 SnGs in 3 hours, quite easily, the only concern is carpal tunnel from all the mouse clicks

the one weird trick to do this is to play games across a variety of stakes

again, you don't seem to know much of anything relevant to the discussion, so maybe you should talk less and read more
06-19-2018 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
the guy who thought people were cheating because they always sat to his left in cash games has a lot of strong opinions
well i got a refund for being cheated btw so did several other players.

      
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