If anyone thinks I am a troll, I would suggest withholding your judgement until you have checked my BR builder thread.

A 1 /52 ratio over time, even though random it must be a part of the programming?

Saving for future historians.

worst mod ever

Best mod ever, the forum might want to learn my style of poker one day.

I dunno. If you watched The Wire, they’re treating this channel like Hamsterdam.

I wonder how a live deck of cards knows to come out that way without this programming.

NOG.... a shuffler machine. The new live mechanic that original came from the online world. Especially in untracked Euro casinos.

I think it could be that you and others have misunderstood me on this matter.

I think a computer must have somewhere in the programming an equal distribution over time ratio per ''point''

no, pk, we understand you. Your concept isn't that hard to understand, despite your butchery of language in your attempts to explain.

You think that 1/2 is not the same as 2/4 because 2 and 4 in the denominator are different.
You think that random selection from multiple sets into a new set renders the probability of the content of the new set to be unknowable
You think that imaginary numbers aren't what they are defined as

And in all these things, you've been told, over and over, by many many people, that you're wrong. And you're convinced that you're right and we're all blind.

Why do you think this? What distribution would you expect over time for something that is truly random?

And I, with 35 years of programming experience and a professional in the industry since 1995, am telling you.

YOU. ARE. WRONG.

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Per the quotes I added to my last post,

"equal distribution over time"

Does this mean that when PokerStars was developing the RNG, they programmed in a spot where all odds converged and all cards have the exact 1/52 percentage of being the "top card"?


Is this "spot": in time or in amount of hands?

If you deal cards randomly, with each having an equal probability, over time they will come out very close to an equal distribution. Why would a programmer spend any time at all trying to make sure that this happens, when you already know that it will happen if you just let things happen naturally? And what would you even be keying on? You seem to focus on the 1st card off the deck, but to make any sense at all they would have to program it so that keep track of every positional card from the top of the deck - keep a running count in the billions, and then decide to make sure somehow the ledger balances for all cards and all positions.

There would be no particular reason for doing this aside from the fact that it will happen normally. Since every deck is going to a randomly selected table, there would be no impact on any specific table, or any specific person, or any specific hand. Making sure that the third card has the 7 of clubs because in the previous 4 billion hands it was off by a couple is simply absurd.

But just suppose for a minute that there is this nonsensical programming. So what? It would be transparent to anyone playing, and would not be biased toward any player or any style of play. So why would anyone care?

I am speculating you know, I imagine that there is 52 points in each linear array , each point over an amount of time will be occupied by any individual elements i. I imagine this is fairy even with a bit of standard deviation thrown in.

I'm not even sure at this point if pkdk has rudimentary experience working with anything remotely programming related.

That is true, I am mentally constructing of how maybe a program could random shuffle a virtual deck of cards. Quite clearly there would be a linear array of coordinate points of values of i, keystrokes etc changing the position of the value in the array?

I am having an uneducated guess

He’s a qualified IT technician! Didn’t you know?

Jargon for I can fix computers, programming source code is different.

I wasn't saying that, just giving an accurate answer, imo.
Why do you think a program that takes no user input would do anything with keystrokes?

Let me generously help.

A computer shuffles a deck of cards like this:

1. Create an empty deck array that can hold 52 values.
2. Let integers 0 to 51 represent the deck of cards, so that 0 = 2c, 1=3c, etc.
3. Generate a random number between 0 and 51 inclusive, using an RNG.
4. Put that number in the first slot of our array.
5. Repeat step 3. If the result is not already in the array, put it in the next available slot, otherwise discard it and generate another one. Repeat until the array is filled.

Then you do this for every deck that needs to be dealt to play a game. Nowhere in there is anything programmed to even out the distribution. A normal distribution happens naturally, exactly like it does with a live shuffled deck.

FYP (I added the word for clarity)

You just moved the bar in a radical way.

You just stated, and I quoted here, that the RNG is indeed random therefore your original premise (the RNG at Stars is not fairly distributing cards) has been proven to you to be incorrect and you now agree.

Just Speculation.....ho boy.....

No worries.

I estimate that 99.9% of all posts in this thread have been (or should be taken to be) fun posts not to be taken seriously.

This is the fun planet from Star Trek.

No, not that one, the other one.

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