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09-06-2017 , 10:20 AM
Doug could make a few PewDiePie spoofs and absorb his fanbase.
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09-06-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
Doug could make a few PewDiePie spoofs and absorb his fanbase.

I dont think that would work long-term or even short term. I think you somehow have to tap into the pre-teen/teen/college age market. I'm guessing that is the largest viewing market on youtube. But how do you do that as a 29 year old? Seems impossible unless you are into video games which that demographic is into. The thing is, Doug has the right personality for this sort of thing, he just needs the right idea. How about the pet vlog thing? You can hit some massive numbers if people like you and your pet. For instance I started watching this guy (who NEVER appears on the videos) and his Husky. Somewhat entertaining I suppose. Started off real small viewership but quickly gained steam within a year. Now the guy has 400k followers and a lot of his vids have hit over a million views and he is soon coming out with merch. This is probably the guys' full time job now. Add in Patreon this dude is probably clearing 100k a year from 5 minute DOG VIDEOS.

Sorry I tend to get off track. What I"m saying is Doug has the right personality for Youtube, he just needs the right idea for something to take off.
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09-06-2017 , 11:18 AM
Hamsters are good for pet vlog they not eat much and they like run in wheel and slides. In our local pet shop they banned hamsters from wheel because one died from exhausting.
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09-06-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
He is nowhere close to approaching that. And since there are maybe like 5 people on the entire planet that have that kind of revenue, Doug will never achieve that, especially with a poker channel. I'm not a Youtube expert, but from what i've seen you either have to be an originator like Casey (very difficult to do now), play video games (I guess possible for Doug, but highly unlikely), or be some teenager and get in some type of kid niche market of absolute mindless, meaningless videos that, if you are a chick, have to do with makeup or whatever preteens/teen girls are into, or if you are a guy, again something related to video games or doing stupid pranks that arent even funny. Or just sit around your parents multi-million dollar home and talk about nothing.

I suppose there are other areas to get into where one can make decent money. Travel vlogs in several different genres seem to do pretty well for instance. But Doug's best bet is to figure out some untapped market in the vlog realm and go with that.

Speaking of which, I thought Doug was talking about starting another non related poker channel. What ever became of that? If I were him, that is what I'd focus on. Because it doesnt appear Doug lives some type of baller lifestyle because in reality that is what the plebs want to see on youtube. Poker vlogs can only go so far unless you incorporate travelling, baller lifestyle, etc. to cross market it. Even then I"m not sure a poker vlog could take Doug to where I"m sure he is envisioning himself going in the vlogger world.

It's pretty sickening, though, to see some 16 year old kid buying a lambo from his mindless youtube videos. I mean this kids videos really, really suck bad. Yet he is bringing in serious bank. I guess that is where our society is at the moment.....
Man, now I really wish Bill Perkins was into vlogs. That'd be something.

Didn't Doug say that he wanted to put out some new content on his other channel this fall? Probably difficult to come up with good ideas, like you said.
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09-06-2017 , 01:33 PM
iirc dog wanted to get into cryptocurrency strat
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09-06-2017 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Penetrator
Hamsters are good for pet vlog they not eat much and they like run in wheel and slides. In our local pet shop they banned hamsters from wheel because one died from exhausting.
Should've put a warning label on the wheel for the hamsters. USE AT OWN RISK.
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09-06-2017 , 04:13 PM
Dayummm. 5 milli is a lot of money. Idk if it will ever happen, but good luck to Doug if it does.

Regarding the channel, I think Doug is aware of the challenge he faces with content. He needs footage that he can monetize legally, so a series of heads up matches would do the trick, along with the PAD material.
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09-06-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Dayummm. 5 milli is a lot of money. Idk if it will ever happen, but good luck to Doug if it does.

Regarding the channel, I think Doug is aware of the challenge he faces with content. He needs footage that he can monetize legally, so a series of heads up matches would do the trick, along with the PAD material.
Assuming he would still need to speak with PokerGo before airing PAD material moving forward? Seems like they may have bought up those rights as well if they didn't own them already?
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09-06-2017 , 05:48 PM
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Tbh I don't see any way to argue that you could monetize this event in a way that the players were freerolling or close to it.
of course not but if youd normally sell 85% of your action and get a 1/20th overlay from sponsors, its still a better position.

Factor in some model for future promotional revenue the match brings and you really start getting into the darker arts of economics. Something like this could bring dougs youtube channel sizeable jump in revenue making the cash flow situation (income vs cost to produce) much more attractive offering him leverage for future opportunities and situations.

To ignore how interconnected all these avenues are is to be a bit short sighted on possibility. Not saying its guaranteed but the adage of "spend money to make money" isnt a trope without reason
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09-06-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sump
Assuming he would still need to speak with PokerGo before airing PAD material moving forward? Seems like they may have bought up those rights as well if they didn't own them already?


Ahhh, I meant to say PNA, Poker Night in America. But surely DP can put up a few minutes of himself from PAD, on a handshake agreement basis.
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09-06-2017 , 06:39 PM
Doug has mentioned several times that PNiA allows him to use their footage for hand analysis. I'm not sure what the details of their arrangement are.
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09-06-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Assuming he would still need to speak with PokerGo before airing PAD material moving forward? Seems like they may have bought up those rights as well if they didn't own them already?
Today's video features a PAD hand:

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09-06-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Today's video features a PAD hand:

Klein just gives away $500k or whatever like it was nothing. I would really like to know what Klein put that dude on or if he even thought about it much. I'm guessing the latter. Too bad Doug cant analyze the hands then interview The loser and or winner of the hand to see what their thought process was during the hand. Would make for a more interesting video. But I still like watching Polk's hand analysis segments.
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09-06-2017 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
Too bad Doug cant analyze the hands then interview The loser and or winner of the hand to see what their thought process was during the hand. Would make for a more interesting video. But I still like watching Polk's hand analysis segments.
Not sure if you have played higher stakes live games

But that would be awful

It's bad enough for that community he's making these videos [at least I'm not in the US - and I suppose as they have been televised ppl have commented on the clips everywhere anyway]

But you really don't want to be educating, or embarrassing - the more recreational players

On the one hand he complains that he's playing a reg heavy game [and that players wouldn't have signed on, maybe, if they had of known that was the line up] - on the other hand he is using recreational millionare players bad plays to critique

I've played aginst people like this - that don't play casino games ever [as ppl are just rude to them] - the correct response is, 'aces, wow unlucky... I would have gone broke there too' and tap the table

repeat

make money
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09-07-2017 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Popetman
the correct response is, 'aces, wow unlucky... I would have gone broke there too' and tap the table

repeat

make money
Just because they're not experts at card games doesn't mean they're morons. That kind of patronizing attitude becomes obvious eventually. Klein even openly talked about this at the table while JRB the "whale whisperer" looked visibly uncomfortable. Nobody likes getting their ass kissed too much.
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09-07-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Just because they're not experts at card games doesn't mean they're morons. That kind of patronizing attitude becomes obvious eventually. Klein even openly talked about this at the table while JRB the "whale whisperer" looked visibly uncomfortable. Nobody likes getting their ass kissed too much.
why was jrb uncomfortable?
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09-07-2017 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Popetman
Not sure if you have played higher stakes live games

But that would be awful

It's bad enough for that community he's making these videos [at least I'm not in the US - and I suppose as they have been televised ppl have commented on the clips everywhere anyway]

But you really don't want to be educating, or embarrassing - the more recreational players

On the one hand he complains that he's playing a reg heavy game [and that players wouldn't have signed on, maybe, if they had of known that was the line up] - on the other hand he is using recreational millionare players bad plays to critique

I've played aginst people like this - that don't play casino games ever [as ppl are just rude to them] - the correct response is, 'aces, wow unlucky... I would have gone broke there too' and tap the table

repeat

make money
These are valid points about Doug giving away alot of very key NLHE strat, landing it in the laps of a very wide audience.

He's even made it much easier for opponents to play him HU.

He's given the whole game away about aggressive players barrelling back door equity in position, how to use hand ranges, loads of stuff about what hands we should be calling with on the river. Also lots about blockers and how to use them (card removal).

If I was a NLHE cash grinder I would not be happy about his strat output damaging my edge.

Last edited by SageDonkey; 09-07-2017 at 02:43 AM. Reason: Editing down my post.
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09-07-2017 , 03:47 AM
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He's given the whole game away about aggressive players barrelling back door equity in position, how to use hand ranges, loads of stuff about what hands we should be calling with on the river. Also lots about blockers and how to use them (card removal).
Thanks I was looking for cliffs, his strats are too long.
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09-07-2017 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
These are valid points about Doug giving away alot of very key NLHE strat, landing it in the laps of a very wide audience.

He's even made it much easier for opponents to play him HU.

He's given the whole game away about aggressive players barrelling back door equity in position, how to use hand ranges, loads of stuff about what hands we should be calling with on the river. Also lots about blockers and how to use them (card removal).

If I was a NLHE cash grinder I would not be happy about his strat output damaging my edge.
You totally missed the point of the post you quoted.
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09-07-2017 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
Doug could make a few PewDiePie spoofs and absorb his fanbase.
Even better, challenge him to a HU match, i mean it can be for monopoly money as long as it serves the marketing purpose.
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09-07-2017 , 07:40 AM
i just have to say i love Polks Videos and he´s such a funny guy - relating to the 5m Challenge i doubt this will ever happen

But who knows what Macau Dwan is up to
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09-07-2017 , 07:58 AM
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You totally missed the point of the post you quoted.
I missed out one of the main points, about critiquing a (wealthy) rec's play, and agree with that too, that it's bad for poker overall as some of these players will either be put off playing, or take it on the chin and improve their game from the strat advice given.

Players used to source their info and strat and get or swap coaching advice, but Doug's strat vids in particular are a big shortcut to this because they are so good and are reaching many players who would never have otherwise actively gone out and learned or got coaching.
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09-07-2017 , 02:13 PM
Doug do this hand for next poker hands video

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09-07-2017 , 02:20 PM
I think its worth noting that **** tons of players sought coaching, read poker books and still made tons of mistakes 5 years ago, 8 years ago, 3 years ago, 10 years ago ... not to critique Doug's ability to instruct and teach good strat, but I seriously doubt his videos are handing folks the DJ Khaled keys to life here.

Good instruction is one part of the equation, being able to understand how to implement and actually benefit from said instruction still requires effort on the part of the recipient. Something I think is still beyond a lot of people for various reasons.
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09-07-2017 , 02:28 PM
Correct. If card removal and blockers are new info to you in 2017, nobody has to worry about you having and edge because you saw some hand analysis on YouTube. CR videos we're a great way for good players to get even better, and for bad players to start 3 betting and barreling a lot without understanding why.
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