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Loved the Trevor banter in the end there

Joey, I'm glad you're on board with the "dudes staring at each other" thumbnail strat, but you can't have them smilling like that. That's not how this works!

prefer a coked up timmy dwayne staring at aspergerman too

Going to have on Apotheosis92 aka Chris Kruk at 3PM EST. Apotheosis is a Run it Once coach that plays HSNL cash & MTTs on Pokerstars and also has started playing live high roller MTTs in recent months ��

Have 2 questions for him:

Why isnt he playing something instead of coming on the podcast?
Would he rather buy action from LLinusLLove, Dpeters or Brynn Kenney in a 10k+ (non main event) mtt.

What stupid questions...

LMFAO.

I have 2 q's for that-anon-pgc:

Would you rather eat food or sit on the toilet?
@ the PCA, is sitting on the beach or walking to the poker room @ midday a better decision?

Great pod, thanks guys.

Gotta agree with Joey that Chris was not cheated (colluded against) in that live PLO hand.

IMO it was either the raiser thinking the rec was leading a missed draw, so the raiser was trying to get Chris off his two pair or non nut straight with his one pair (Ace), or it was a spewy play by the raiser into a dry side pot.

I tend towards it being the latter, because the exploitative raise into a dry side pot play is more effective on the flop or turn, with cards still to come, where the exploiter can make the play with as little as a couple of back doors or a no pair with gutshot hand, and get you off hands like top and bottom pair, or one pair and a non nut flush draw, thus giving themselves better than 2.5 to 1 HU with the all in short stack, and is done in a scenario where you and they are very deep so your big stack is being very pressurised by the play.

Overall these plays are not +EV IMO unless very specifically targeted against weak tight players (the player trapped in the middle) and where you have a strong assessment that the all in short stack is weak or fairly weak, because even when you get a fold from the big stack trapped in the middle, the ~2.75/1 the exploiter is achieving HU v the shorty is very often not much if at all a +EV chip play. And of course when the player in the middle is flatting to induce is a very -EV play by the exploiter.

Making such a play however can serve the purpose of unsettling an opponent in a long on line session or battle by getting them to lay down the best hand.

Or you make the call and the exploiter then back door sucks out on you, which is what happened to me! in the biggest on line PLO pot I've ever played (at $25/$50), a $15K pot where I flatted with top set in the exact same spot 3 way on the flop after the shorty had shoved all in, and an aggro Scandi potted it. I obviously re-potted and he made some back door nonsense suck out to win the pot.

Furthermore, (true story), my stack of ~$7K on this table I had run up all the way from just $75 of FPP cashed in rewards points that I placed on a 50c/$1 PLO table and had moved right up the stakes with during a single 3 hour session. I played about the best I'd ever played during that 3 hours and ran pure of course too, apart from in that last pot.

My plan had I survived that table was to bank half the money and put the other half on a $50/$100 PLO table, but sadly it wasn't to be.

It hurt I can tell you and was an awful play (future game dynamics aside) by the Scandi as his hand was so weak that getting it HU against the short stack, had I had a weaker hand and passed, was still not +EV chip wise for him.

looking forward to watch this one
love apotheosis RIO videos

That was great game selection by Gus.

He was a 3/1 fave on the flop. As played, I think Leon should be either check folding or bet folding, betting 1/3 rd pot. A 1/3rd sized lead will get some of Gus's range to fold, e.g. 4 low or middle connectors with no spade draw or weak spades, some A985 type hands with no spades or weak spades and some QQxx and TTxx with weak side card hands.

I still don't get why the likes of Leon Tsoukernik and Bill Perkins don't invest some more time in getting some coaching and putting their minds to improving. Even if these stakes to them are not a significant part of their net worth then surely as successful business people they should still want to improve and get better for their own personal pride of performance?

Leon for example could probably improve his game at least 25% with some basic strategy coaching and dos and donts.

Such as don't unnecessarily inflate the pot pre with a "2HH" hand (2 Hold'em Hands). PLO of all games is one where an improved version of Leon would be very dangerous because it is a great game for a LAG, but only for LAGs who understand a decent proportion of the strat.

Ya everything you just said would make a recreational player go watch porn or play a video game over playing poker.

I'm not suggesting a wealthy recreational player would or should seek out coaching of some of the higher concepts, and indeed they wouldn't be able to properly understand them anyway without playing a high volume of hands to put them into practice, but I do believe that something as simple as some key bullet points and key concepts would make someone like Leon far more effective at PLO.

Even how he currently plays he does go on some big heaters getting huge stacks but my instinct is that he gives the money back in another game another time. So I don't see the point in this.

I get that he wants to play high variance, but there are much better ways of playing high variance than he is deploying and most of the concepts at their basic level are quite easy to understand and could be taught in a couple of hours and then printed on a tip sheet.

Breaking news, super wealthy billionaires don't bother to spend time getting better at poker! More gems coming from SageDonkey across all of NVG at 11, but ONLY if you read his entire 15 paragraph posts.

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New Poker Life podcast this Thursday at 4pm EST with one of the most exciting players to watch right now in the high stakes cash game world Garrett Adelstein

I'm in the uk, hasn't updated for me here

hey Joey i've been playing a bot at 5/10 2 card omaha on pokerstars. if you want i can share hh's with you so you can judge for yourself. Pokerstars not got back to me yet but im 99% sure they are a bot.

PLO: cobus83, ravenswood, venividi1993, domce

MAKEITHAPPENPAPIiiiii

wtf happened to the "self imposed" word limit?

(or the community imposed post limit)

He unilaterally decided to end it at the start of the year.

wow glad I never took him off ignore

tl;dr

Im not gonna read this but I’m 100% sure you could paraphrase this to one or two paragraphs instead of 10

I'm sure he already fastidiously edited it down from the original 5,000 words.

Hey Papi any potential of another sauce podcast sometime this year? (or soon , before WSOP to ask him his plans too) With him being back online battling berri / overtaking Jeans for biggest winner on stars etc and last but not least we could all just use more of him and his treadmill in our lives

Could ask him if he was using ikes dream machine when he disapeared for a few months or was playing live too!