Criminal behavior online. It is sad to see people being taken advantage of and cheated who are unaware what is happening to them.

I think live poker is the future. People have to be able to trust the integrity of the game or they wont play.

I remember Mike matasow back in the day saying just pick up a air card and collude and then the game is simply unbeatable, just curious what is the math behind 2 players using Collusion, to lazy and drinking to look it up tnx . . .

Isn't it funny how quick they are to reach out when they get some bad publicity? It would be nice if game integrity meant as much to these sites as bad publicity does.

Seriously. In the ACR bot thread, the rep responds once and only to ask someone who no longer plays there why he bothers to post. They obviously don't care. I'm glad I split a couple of years ago.

Ya, people have been talking about bots for a while in the WPN forum and as Isolated said their response was a joke. I'm glad someone with some reach finally made some noise cuz they don't listen to 2+2 posts.

+1

As long as the perception that everything is good is all that sites really care about. Actually catching cheaters doesn't do much for the sites profitability... especially bots who make only a small amount per hand and rake a pile load.

Joey, you are really the only "real" Person in the poker buisness anymore. All are like "yeah poker is great, you make money, blablabla, join xy-Site blabla and get rich *****" all this dumb **** to make more money for themselves. No one is giving a **** about all the bad things that poker generates and that comes with it.

Finally there is one guy who is talking about all the ****ing bad stuff. How poker can destroy people, their lives etc., the ****ing bot situation etc.

Please keep doing this. Its sad that youre the only one who publicly talks about these issues.

If i see another ****ing jaime staples video, him talking about how great poker is, how everyone should join pokerstars blabla while he is a loosing player, just winning money caus of his ****ing sponsorship, i will go ****ing nuts. There are way way way to many people out there, trying to suck people into poker for their own benefit.

You are literally the only one talking about the real negative sides of poker. THX!!

peace and keep up the good work

I got blocked from Joe Ingrams Twitter for asking serious questions. I honestly believe Joey might have some issues.

My exact tweets were this

" 1) where are the clips and where are the graphs to back your stories up 2) where is this email you received? This is a major accusation. I'm not just taking your word on these things. 3) At 15:09 you claim you've won " hundreds of thousands of dollars " on ignition. Graphs or no. "

" 4) Why are you wearing a hospital bracelet? 5) you look like you're on drugs. "

Honest questions and observations. He blocks me.

Sorry Joey, I like you and i believe there is cheating on ACR, but you cant just make a video making claims and then not back them up with any proof. It's lame. You're taking advantage of the amount of followers you've gained over the years, to make claims that are unproven. You said you received an email. Lets see it. You said you had video clips of cheating and i assume you have graphs. Lets see them. And ya i'm sorry, but i do doubt you've won hundreds of thousands of dollars on ignition, but if you have, good for you. I imagine you wouldnt have an issue posting a graph of these winnings.

And it also does appear that you have a hospital band on. And you seem to be a bit under the influence, or maybe you're tired. I dont know.

Regardless, these were all reasonable questions. Especially when you're making videos outing people by name and claiming they are cheating and claiming that the head of ACR dont give a ****.

Funny how that works.

It was wild to see that response from them. They openly mock the conversation.

I agree

If I never have to see your Twitter name again, I will die happy. The clips of the accounts are recorded. The bot usage is documented on the WPN subforum here. I don't care if anyone takes my word for it or not, I've recommended ACR more than anyone else and to be cautious about it on my podcast. I have to go the opposite way now because of a combination of these things. I will not be posting the email/message but I have gotten more information since posting the video. I will save that graph for the Can I win 500k video series competition one day but until that, you can talk the person who had a lot of my action. I was in the hospital for the flu. I always look like this.

Great work.

Such a weird thing to say. My tweets were nothing but honest questions. I'm not sure how anyone could see otherwise. Just a weird reasoning to get upset about. By i'm ok with it. I look forward to a more detailed video on this cheating. Thanks.

Who had your action btw Joey?

Why are his results any of your business?

I do agree though with providing actual proof other than "I got an email" and have watched the games.

I've been cheated/superused twice before, first time about 3 years ago on a small site that's subsequently shut down and more recently on a network that promotes a "Good Game" if you follow my drift, and its the most soul destroying experience ever, especially in PLO, when someone shows up playing crazy stats, calling you down super light but never paying off value bets. I cant believe no ones called out this player on this current network, maybe because he plays mid stakes - plo50 - 200. So many players go broke to this player 'cus they just think he's a fish on a heater, but if you look at his location it's the same place as the company's head office, blatant superuser, I played him for 1-2 hours, never been so sure in my life, lol'd reading back over the hand histories the next day.

TLDR- just ranting about blatant cheating

He kinda made it everyones business by making that statement in his video.

Its honestly sad that I am the person who has to bring this type of issue to light. My biggest takeway this year is that a large majority of people from all walks of life in the poker world don't really give a **** anymore. No one has the desire to discuss it or attempt change because they don't believe they can, things can be improved or that anyone cares. People have been beaten down over these past few years.

I should never be the voice of this. I love being out of line. I feel bad for the poker community that I am the person people have to count on for podcasts and to bring awareness to issues taking place. I might just disappear into my own world for the next few weeks and stop caring all together about things.

It is sarcasm Shawn. I won't think of you when I die.

The case for botting has been made on the sub-forum and by actually observing the games. Beyond that, I don't have concrete proof yet on the high level of non-human like dynamic and interaction taking place with these accounts on a daily basis. The dynamic with other accounts that I know are legit is another game of poker all together.

The case for the possible super using accounts, I do have those over many sessions I recorded and will be posting those. Or you can go play with the accounts and see for yourself.

The case for the possible collusion is more clear to me than it was before. I'm not in the guys room but I do have a picture of the guys room. That is on the website to anaylze play patterns, account interaction and so on down the line.

Ultimately, I hope I am wrong. I want to be wrong. I want to be proven wrong. I want people to say don't listen to this, play on the site and be right.

People can watch this and make their own decisions.

I too looked forward to some "evidence" particularly when you name accounts, albeit you only named 4 or 5 accounts that play the highest stakes. Why did you not out all the names of the accounts you suspect?

Almost 18 minutes of major accusations and not a single bit of evidence, or data that could be used to assemble strong evidence. So, I come to 2+2 expecting to see something to back up the claims and, nothing..

Like most, I do not want bots and colluding taking place on the only network really available to those of us in the US. However there are hordes of disgruntled "fun players" who desperately need to believe and prove to everyone else that they were cheated. That is an extremely easy fire to flame.

I look forward to your next video having something that the community can actually examine and make a case.

I do respect what you have done, and continue to do. I truly believe that you believe these things, and because you strongly believe them I tend to think that are more than likely very true.. But once you name names, and make big claims you really have to bring the community the evidence and information, it's the right thing so that others can help to out the accounts and bring a stop to the abuse.

I played on Absolute/UltimateBet and was around for the unmasking of their thievery, it took a few people with data and evidence, then a whole community to follow the trail and uncover the abuse.

I did name names in the video. My goal isn't to prove this myself, I don't think that will ever happen. My goal is to draw awareness and to tell people not to play on the site. I do this because I've mentioned this site HUNDREDS of times as a place you could play. I've posted it on my Instagram, on my IG story, on Twitter. Now I am telling people why not and why I believe so. I don't want someone putting money on the site to play cash games or try out high stakes PLO and be colluded against because they heard me mention it many times on videos. If I am wrong, then I am wrong. But I believe I am not.

Honestly, the last thing I wanted to do was have to make this video. I know what the reaction will be from both sides. I sound like a conspiracy nut to some and there have been times in the past months where I felt like that as I keep asking myself

"There is no ****ing I am seeing this, right??"
"Why have I been watching this guy play for the past 4 hours??"

Your sarcasm wasnt lost on me. I just think it's odd you blocked me for asking reasonable questions. My feelings are not hurt either way. Good luck with your campaign.

I'll take 2+2 Forum Members for 800 Alex.

Who is Carl Trooper?

44bars on podcast next plz and ty

I've been in touch. I think there will be podcast taking place with him, the person who sent me information on the collusion, and maybe a couple others.

Hospital for the flu at your age? I usually just get chicken noodle soup. You got that deadly one that's going around?

Lol. I made it. I finally made it! I’ve been busting WPNs balls for years. Always thought I was being cheated. They hate me. Lol.

Nagy?