Yeah but this is his only opportunity to communicate with an audience.

And there's no other poker players that have anything to say

#ithoughtiwasout

(5:42) Half of audience has ejaculated.

Hot Vivian cured Matt Marafioti Joey for a few days. He's been going off the deep end for awhile.

THANK YOU TO THE PERSON WHO HAS PROVIDED THE TIMESTAMPS RECENTLY

I think Joey found his wife, when you putting a ring on Viviane papi?

TIMESTAMPS

(0:00) Intro, Upswing Poker Black Friday/Cyber Monday Sale
(2:20) New clothing line announcement from the Upswing Store
(5:51) Supreme Leader Douglas K. Polk deals in absolutes
(7:35) Papi blashemy... PLO is a "Gateway Game" to Stud Poker
(10:20) Recent Twitter disputes: Daniel Negreanu vs. James Woods
(13:42) Talib Kweli vs. Poker World
(15:01) Negreanu's full-blast treatment of holiday goers and meat eaters
(16:16) Papi reads DNegs quote from Tim Ferriss book
(17:20) Negreanu's tweets, Animal Protein hype. Vegetarians tend to be...
(18:42) "Vegetarian People" -- by Doug Polk
(20:30) Grilled chicken hype
(21:40) "NFL Doug" makes pledge, talks NFL game theory, strategy
(23:55) "Nothing is more Red, White & Blue than..."
(25:25) #FJim invades NFL football
(26:21) Polk & Papi vlog idea -- Youth Football volunteer coaches
(27:19) Table Talk was underrated, cosmetics conspiracy theory
(29:32) Warm-Up: Live at the Bike "Doug Polk Week" controversy
(33:57) Full Discussion: Live at the Bike "Doug Polk Week" controversy, high stakes TV poker challenges
(45:19) "At the end of the day, every game needs a Berkey." - "If you can't spot the Berkey at the table,..."
(47:18) Joey Ingram nice to everybody... except Jaime Staples
(48:15) Doug feels a "little bad" for Double-A because he got "rekt so hard."
(50:14) How PokerStars Pros are similar to Disney characters
(54:05) Coming up as a professional poker player's career, famous TwoPlusTwo poll
(57:00) Doug's near-busto story from the Black Friday era, late-2011 upswing
(58:19) Joey's recent "Real Poker Talk" YouTube videos
(59:26) Why pros should stop mass-tabling
(1:01:15) What you need to be a successful poker player in 2017 and beyond
(1:03:51) "No Limit Hold'em is a way of life."
(1:04:11) Under Armour, Ikea "temporarily removed" as exclusive Poker Life Podcast sponsors
(1:04:59) Doug's upcoming broadcast plans for rest of 2017
(1:08:04) Doug's news segment videos and hand reviews are highly popular
(1:09:10) Modern-day news generation
(1:10:40) Doug Polk reviews of crypto sites coming soon?
(1:11:12) Doug and Joey are going through "reflective" stages in their personal and professional lives
(1:12:48) Patented Papi shout-outs
(1:13:26) Why doesn't Doug open a poker site?
(1:15:06) Why Doug prefers Twitter over Instagram
(1:15:34) Binks' scorpion scare -- possible solutions
(1:17:37) DNegs wouldn't approve, but has wholesome holiday plans this weekend
(1:18:26) Outro, have some fun -- parting words... don't forget to vote in the Twitter poll!

The vegetarian rant by Dan is stupid. Big guy with clogged arteries telling other people what's healthy. Lol try walking around more Dog Pork. Eating meat is directly correlated to increased mortality rates. So how is that healthy? Vegetarians on average live longer than meat eaters. how is eating meat healthy? You are literally repeating marketing slogans equating meat and protein. There is plenty of protein to be had in a vegetarian diet without even trying to worry about how much brotein you get. If you ate a diet of 2000 calories of potatoes you would still get the recommended amount of protein.

educate yourself on protein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

Vegetarians live longer. You can say that's because they also make healthier lifestyle choices but why? Eating meat is unhealthy. For the most part.

Doug please read up and educate yourself. Have you ever heard of the china study?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study

Dog Pork your heart is not as healthy as mine dawg. Get that heart pumping dawg. Try eating a mostly fruit and vegetable diet for a week and walk 3+miles a day. Get back to me after that and tell me vegetarians are weak.

If you and me ran across a bear in the woods, you're getting eaten homeboy.

Fwiw I still eat meat it tastes too good!!!!! But I'm trying to convert to a vegan diet eventually.

You for real? Say you take an omnivore animal and just feed it a vegetarian diet with no supplements. You would have peta up your ass for neglect.


My brother is a nutritionists that formerly worked at John Hopkins and he says trying to get all the right protein is hard to do with just a vegatarian diet. If you bring up cholesterol and cancer from meat you are working with bad information as it's been outed as essentially propaganda.


Hominids have been eating meat since before humans, just try thinking of us as animals instead of having all the media bs in your head. Also Inuits, they live off meat, really fatty meat at that and up until western civilization brought their **** food and drugs they lived long healthy lives.

I agree with Doug.

Sure you can eat healthily on those diets, but we're naturally omnivores and he is right that there's an abnormally higher number of frailer/non muscular/poor physique vegetarians/vegans than among omnivore diet people.

Also you can be Vegetarian or Vegan and still eat a lot of high sugar, high fat food that's bad for you.

Frankly, this pro poker player fad of Yoga, Meditation and Veganism is as bigger load of delusional bull$hit as the REG Charity. Get real people, you are poker players ffs, not world healers, spiritual gurus, or fine upstanding philanthropic members of society.

I thought Doug's jab at vegetarians was a bit misguided. I mean yes, meat is a good source of protein, but you can get protein other ways and red meat has a lot of health negatives. There are no doubt some vegetarians who don't know how to manage their diet properly and get enough protein, but I think saying vegetarians are in general weak and don't get enough protein is wrong.

I am not a vegetarian btw.

Not only protein, other important minerals such as iron, and beneficial fatty acids like Omega 3 found in oily fish.

Many are difficult to find in a vegetarian/vegan diet. Taking vitamins is not a reliable way of absorption into the body.

A laughable thing is Vegans who often own, yes own (cruel in itself), a pet carnivore dog. (some do change the dog's diet to vegan!)

Let me tell you that if you suddenly drop down dead in a remote location with the doors locked, your friendly doe-eyed doggie that you've forcibly imprisoned as its master will eat you!

+1

Precise and detailed, these timestamps provide the most efficient way to listen/watch.

I think Vivian pod gives Joey a pass for another pod w his business partner, Doug. Hard to argue w that ratio, considering it's all FREE.

Yeah, to the guys suggesting Paul P. might be a podcast prospect, keep holding your breath. It's about as likely as Ivey/Dwan/Trueteller going on camera . . . for anyone other than Mr. P, so you might as well drop it.

We are naturally omnivores? Wtf? If so, why don’t you just chase a pig and rip off some flesh with your fangs? Oh right

After watching a few of his wsop vlogs, Dnegs put me on a mega tilt with his *** vegan shakes. It is really annoying. Still vegan is by far the healthiest diet out there. I tried it for a month back in August, never felt better in my life. It was 110 outside and I could walk for an hour without sweating. Try that after a ribeye, you could literally die. After a lot of traveling, had to mix it up with non-vegan meals. Too lazy to stick to it.


Meat is tasteless, only reason why it tastes great are spices and flavors. Try eating plain piece of meat.

Protein argument is beyond stupid.

You may well be right in much or all of that. Scientific studies would be the ultimate judge of this.

My beef with some poker players turning to veganism and the bone I have to pick with them is that it's a fad and unproven to improve results. Stu Ungar was a coke addict, Winston Churchill drank a bottle of Cognac per day, Martin Luther King Jr and Dietrich Bonhoeffer were overweight.

People can drink kale juice and do yoga 24/7 but they'd still get crushed at mixed games by the slightly rotund Todd Brunson, Max Pescatori and Jeff Lissandro.

This has to be the worst derail itt so far. Nobody cares.

We are directly discussing something that was in Joey's last podcast so how is it a derail?

The vegan thing is pretty huge in poker among a group of "top" self appointed all knowing players. Doug Polk having a dig at it and at DNegs in the process was a pretty big part of the podcast.

Don't get it twisted, yoga and meditation is training that will make you next level from where you are at in life. Being a vegan or vegetarian will make you look like an emaciated fool. Science as well as history has shown this to be true. Hell you need a lot of protein just for your brain and a big theory of our brain's evolution is that animal protein and the mental games of trying to figure out how to kill game has made the hominid brain what it is today.

We are not rabbits, we are hominids that have been eating meat far longer then we have been human.

If everyone did yoga we wouldn't see people 50+ years old falling and breaking hips nearly as much. It strengthens your stabilizing muscles, you vistibular apparatus ie you balance mechanism in the ear, works your lungs which if your a couch potato is a big plus.

Meditation is a huge workout for the brain and the emotional system and there are a ton of benefits like killing ADD and other stuff that I'm too buzzed to go into now. There is a reason meat, yoga and meditation has been around for 1000s of years, there is a huge reason why eating meat has been around for what a million years. History of hominds eating meat kicks vegans in the ass imo. They live in an illusion.

Why would you wanna break up this convo? This is some of the most interesting and education topics to come in in NVG that I've seen in a while. Most of the time NVG is like TMZ by amateurs. It's fun but this is next level convo imo.

I've nothing against yoga per se, but it's a fad and one of many available beneficial exercises.

I looked at an office space yesterday and 1/3rd of the facility was a yoga studio ffs. The all conquering Liverpool FC of the 70s/80s used to eat fish and chips and a pint of beer after a match. Many great sports people ate and drank what they wanted.

Poker isn't even physical making this faddish stuff even more ridiculous.

Meditation is yet more Western adopted new age nonsense by and large, maybe "works" for some but shouldn't be hailed as correct strategy.

An exercise that has been around for 1000s of years and has been scientifically validated is not a fad.

Doing hard **** makes sitting and concentrating way easier, same with meditation. No offense but I think you need to take a month off of that opinion and actually use the exercises. You might as well be saying eating nutritionally dense food and lifting weights is a fad and means nothing.

Meditation will make you brain stronger and more interconnected as well as release stress and a preemptive strike towards stress, ADD, losing youself in thought of the past and future. It's even good at working on mental disease and addiction. I think you need to study up on the science just like vegans/vegetarians need to study up on nutrition. I can understand where you are coming from but this is training of the brain, emotional system and the body.

Saying it's a fad is, I'm sorry to say just and uneducated opinion on the subject. I'm sure I come off as a douche but I'm a science geek and well the results are the complete opposite from your opinion.

Meditation is becoming a fad among players. It's a West Coast USA/Hippy/Cool thing that for whatever reason alot of poker players have latched on to.

Certain types of personalities are more predisposed to possibly benefit from it than others. It's not a one size fits all benefit or need. It is not like water or oxygen.

The proliferation of Yoga in The West certainly is a fad. Compared to just 5 years ago it must have multiplied ~4 fold.

The top Germans currently hold over DNegs because they understand the strat better than him, not through diet, exercise or meditation.

Lol at the arguments ITT. I'm omnivore btw.
Animal protein isn't exclusively meat. There's a ton of protein in dairy products (cheese, quark) and other plant-based stuff as well (black beans etc).
Most people don't seem to have any clue about nutrition. If you think just because you eat meat you live a healthier lifestyle then you're an idiot. No matter if you're vegetarian or vegan or omnivore, balanced nutrition is key. None of these lifestyles is per se healthier than the others.

Evolutionary arguments are the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Hominids were omnivores for better chances of survival. Do you still **** in the ****ing woods and hunt for mammals or what? Evolution is constantly progressing that's why it's called evolution you genius. Vegan haters are as ******ed and annoying as vegan SJWs.

QFT. Doug normally comes across as on the ball and well researched on a lot of social issues, so his ignorant attitude straight out of the 1970s towards vegatarianism shocked me. Is he the guy to be giving me diet advice? Lol nahhh I'm alright mate, think I'll just stay malnourished/ frail

Pretty sure he was taking the piss a bit with that talk.

I wish it were possible to live in a world where no being suffered, and happiness is maximized for all sentient creatures. Unfortunately, that is impossible on Earth.

Nature is oftentimes cruel and random, and the ultimate destiny of all living beings is death, whether by natural causes, or by being eaten by another creature higher on the food chain.

I was a vegan for twenty years. I developed severe digestive problems that bordered on torment. Finally, I switched back to an animal protein diet. I invariably spend the extra money for ethically raised meat/fish, and balance it out with carbs and veggies like the early Lefort pods recommended the Kai Greene diet.

I have never felt better. I am back to my high school football playing weight after being a bloated sack of crap for decades. I can run five miles without breaking a sweat.

According to a strict John Stuart Mill utilitarian calculus, the animals I eat probably suffer more than my suffering was alleviated by the change in my diet. But it is the natural order of things, and selfish behavior is inherent in the evolution of all species. I hope we can someday reach the point where we no longer need to include sentient creatures in our diets, but that is millenia away if humanity does not destroy itself (or AI takes us out) in the meantime.

Also, Daniel Negreanu is an insufferable sanctimonious douche. The sound of his voice and the sight of his hair plugs make my skin crawl.