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the problem is a 4/3 for 4 is a really horrible trade vs any 3/2 that will cost one or two mana on average, stealing a secret is cool but nowhere as important as BFG effect with better stats

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12-02-2014 , 02:23 PM

#14052

dkgojackets

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86,123

undertaker is obviously the biggest problem right now. flare nerf seems weird. it was already being cut from hunter decks

gadgetzan nerf i am perfectly fine with. the solitare nature of it is anti-fun

soulfire seems more a nerf against warlock in general which was needed too

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12-02-2014 , 02:25 PM

#14053

CitizenInsane

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 650

I think spamming arena runs will be massively +ev upon release of GvG. There will be both an influx of casual players returning and a lack of resources available for people who may need help developing strategies on their own.

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12-02-2014 , 02:26 PM

#14054

Joffrey

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 226

They probably tested miracle and it was still too good and non interactive with gvg via auctioneer @5. We can let that deck die now. oh and with all of the spare parts that will be floating around now maybe he was just great in everything.

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12-02-2014 , 02:26 PM

#14055

Kirbynator

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wow they just released like 12 more cards on top of the 15 already on thier facebook

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...6862680&type=1

lots of fun stuff niceeee.

ship's cannon is a really really really strong neutral pirate card :O?

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12-02-2014 , 02:28 PM

#14056

D104

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tree of life seems like a really interesting druid card

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12-02-2014 , 02:29 PM

#14057

Benholio

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

could someone repost the new cards and nerfs, site is blocked for me at work

Nerfs:

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Soulfire now costs 1 (up from 0)
Soulfire, along with fast and powerful minions, allowed Warlock rush decks to get ahead on the board and stay ahead. We’ve upped Soulfire’s mana cost by 1 to slow down the Warlock rush deck just a bit and allow more players time to react and interact against the Warlock.

Gadgetzan Auctioneer now costs 6 (up from 5)
Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s ability allows for a player to potentially draw many cards for little cost. Card draw and card advantage are important to the game—overall, games are less interesting when a player draws their entire deck. This change brings Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s cost more in line with its power level.

Flare now costs 2 (up from 1)
Flare allowed the Hunter an advantage versus decks that revolve around Secrets, while also allowing the Hunter to draw a card for little cost. We want to encourage a variety of decks in Hearthstone. With this change, Flare will continue to be useful against decks playing Secrets, but will be weaker against other decks

New Cards:

Last edited by Benholio; 12-02-2014 at 02:38 PM.

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12-02-2014 , 02:29 PM

#14058

D104

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are they adding neutral weapons?

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12-02-2014 , 02:31 PM

#14059

Kirbynator

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great nerfs btw

hunter was wayyyy too strong against secret classes (mostly mages), and soulfire made all in locks too stronk to finish imo

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12-02-2014 , 02:35 PM

#14060

D104

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Troggzor the earthinator seems really really good to me

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12-02-2014 , 02:35 PM

#14061

Kirbynator

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also just give the trophy already to imp-losion for best name

ps: dat cannon!

pps: hopefully mill druid and others will also destroy handlocks out of the meta

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12-02-2014 , 02:40 PM

#14062

CitizenInsane

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Originally Posted by eddymitchel

i forgot to say **** blizzard for not balancing undertaker while they butcher a few other card. auctionneer need a rework not that nerf. soulfire was good but not really imba imo. flare is a stupid card but i feel 2 mana make it unplayable

I think they're kind of indirectly nerfing undertaker with some of the new cards. It isn't an overwhelmingly powerful card by itself, there just happens to be no counterplay yet to the deck it creates.

For example they're introducing a card that does damage to deathrattle minions. That's a healthy addition to the game and will severely weaken undertaker decks while not making them completely unviable.

Something like soulfire should be nerfed on the other hand because really the only counterplay you could introduce is like giving every class a counterspell.

So I'm pretty OK right now with blizzard's balancing decisions but we'll see how it goes.

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12-02-2014 , 02:55 PM

#14063

Go Get It

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Soulfire for a mana is a joke imo.

4 mana 4/3 that steals secrets is awesome.

Vitality Totem is OP imo.

lol Lightbomb.

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12-02-2014 , 02:55 PM

#14064

Kukraprout

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Wee Spellstopper seems like it will make giants very good for mages
Wasnt Whitegoose asking for a card that prevents minions from being targeted with spells, and being told that it would be too strong?

I like that shamans are getting some self healing with that totem, even though it will be hard to get a lot of value from it.

Hemet Nesingwary is even worse than Bolvar as a waste of a great character.

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12-02-2014 , 02:57 PM

#14065

ledn378

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Originally Posted by D104

tree of life seems like a really interesting druid card

I dont see how it isnt terrible. How much do you have to heal for to make it worth spending 9 mana? Plus it also heals your opponents minions and hero.

You may have healed yourself from 5 to 30 but your Zoo opponent still has board control and also healed from 15-30 so now he is free to tap away and crush you with tempo and card advantage again without worrying about dying.

I think the 4/3 secret card is awesome. Not in arena since secrets are less common and 3/2s are more common but if constructed decks with secrets are still the top of the meta then this will be a must have in decks.

Last edited by ledn378; 12-02-2014 at 03:02 PM.

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12-02-2014 , 02:58 PM

#14066

Kukraprout

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Originally Posted by D104

are they adding neutral weapons?

Blingtron will give weapons to all classes but they said there would be no neutral weapon cards.

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12-02-2014 , 03:01 PM

#14067

WhiteGoose

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Tree of Life 9 mana spell "restore all characters to full health." I assume that means your enemy hero too? And apparently with Auchenai Soulpriest if you thoughtsteal a Tree of Life then everyone just dies? Rofl.

1 mana Soulfire sucks a bit. Some sick new Warlock cards though. Might have to go away from Facelock to something more midrangey. (Leeroy + PO +PO + Soulfire now will cost 8 mana instead of 7 for 18 dmg

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12-02-2014 , 03:06 PM

#14068

AJW

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,371

Hobgoblin looks interesting I suppose it works with UTH and Muster never mind it says play still not bad with Novice engineer the divine shield 1/1 and the buff minions.

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12-02-2014 , 03:16 PM

#14069

BobboFitos

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tree of life seems awesome.

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12-02-2014 , 03:19 PM

#14070

Joffrey

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

Hemet Nesingwary is even worse than Bolvar as a waste of a great character.

I would have liked Hemet to have been

"Battlecry: reveal a random minion from your opponent's deck, then destroy it."

It is flavorful since he hunts something down, and potentially ridic vs control since you can snipe a finisher. Maybe unbalanced, but was a thought.

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12-02-2014 , 03:20 PM

#14071

George Lind III

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woohoo i have 3 golden auctioneers, hi 2400 dust

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12-02-2014 , 03:30 PM

#14072

Kirbynator

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Originally Posted by BobboFitos

tree of life seems really bad.

fyp, imo.

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12-02-2014 , 03:37 PM

#14073

cwar

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,127

So sad about Auctioneer, deck was the most fun although I wasn't around for the Miracle dominance phase.

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12-02-2014 , 03:47 PM

#14074

Kirbynator

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MOARRRRRRRR CARDS

15 more are out!

this should be like 80% of them already?

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12-02-2014 , 03:58 PM

#14075

D104

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lol wtf is shadow bomber - a 1 mana 2/1 PRIEST card that deals 3 damage to each hero when played

i dont even

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