Innervate should give 1 mana.

Spreading Plague should create 1/3 taunts and/or be more expensive.

UI should never have been printed.

I've tried, I really have. But when you get continuously dunked on at trash ranks no matter what you start thinking hey it sucks losing every single game, maybe I'll try a deck I have a chance to win with. And then you do it.

after my innovate rant it turns out reynad made a video saying move innervate to hall of fame. didn't even know.

Whether this discredits me or supports my argument is up to you.

i was pushing for innovate to leave standard when they were hall of faming cards. it's such a dumb card. I hope it gets just removed from all forms of the game. I don't even want to see it in wild, but i guess if it can get hall of famed I'll take that.

Top 10 current legendaries:

1. Ysera -- talked about this a lot this page, she's at her best right now. If I can win games with her in Malygos rogue, you can probably find a spot for her in your deck, too. As noted, compares favorably with the Lich King.

2. Tarim -- I actually think, given the choice, most would pick Tarim over Tirion. That's partially due to the face that the Pally DK now has a better version of Ashbringer. I might put Tirion higher as the meta evolves and N'zoth Pally becomes more popular (I think this will happen).

3. Barnes -- Tonight, a tale of glorious redemption! Barnes is back, better than ever. Hugely important in Big Priest, Maly Rogue and N'Zoth packages.

4. Tirion -- He kills. Does 15 damage even after you Black Knight him.

5. Patches -- Good enough to put 2 pirates in a lot of decks.

6. The Lich King -- Probably seeing too much play atm, as people are running him in all sorts of decks. But he's pretty good, a must-remove and probably always will be (for the next 2 years).

7. Aya Blackpaw -- Is the engine that makes jades work. Good enough to go in aggro-ish token shaman and late-game jade druid. Similar to Sylvanas in a way -- you know it's annoying when the best response to a 5-attack minion is just to ignore her.

8. Medivh -- Still one of the best value cards in the game and benefits from a slower meta. Even with mages in decline, he still sees tons of play -- priests, warlocks and druids are running him.

9. Bloodmage Thalnos -- The most efficient legendary, probably a top 3 craft if you're a new player.

10. Edwin Van Cleef -- Rogue's not in a great spot right now, but he still steals games in unfavorable matchups on his own.

On the rise: N'zoth: He is going to make his mark in a lot of decks; N'zoth pally was the strongest control deck in Un'goro and they got some nice goodies this expansion, and some form of control shaman always gets played around with at some point. I expect N'zoth warrior to also have some following. Also: The Black Knight.

On the decline: Alexstrasza: Frankly I've always thought Alex was underplayed because her effect is so strong it should be considered for other classes (I used to play her in Ramp Aviana Druid). But she's been relegated to mage decks of late, and mages are sometimes opting to run DK Jaina without Alex. Also: Grommash The Warrior DK seemed made for a Grommash deck, but the DK isn't that great and control warrior still hasn't made a true comeback.

Someone should make more decks around this guy: Finja
The biggest surprise to me about the Un'goro era was the disappearance of Water Rogue/Water Warrior.

Did you see where I won 2k games with pirate warrior? I don't blame you.

Ysera is my favorite card, glad she's viable. gotta put her in some decks.

Should TBK be in most decks nowadays? So many taunts.

Made warlock deck with every anti-jade tech and faced 2 mages and 3 pallys, obv went 0-5.

Theres absolutely no way ysera is better than patches. Ysera is a fringe card in some off meta decks while patches is a core card in 3+ of the strongest decks for its entire existence including now.

I feel like Innervate is a core card, essential to the character of the game and tied too closely to the class identity, kinda like Fireball or Fiery War Axe.

I think it's fine that Druid got UI and Malfurion, the class has always had and needed busted late-game cards, but when you give it great supporting cards like Crypt Lord and Spreading Plague, it's just too much. VS made a great point about Crypt Lord: It replaced Tar Creeper, which started to be played in every single deck, aggro and control.

Half the games vs. Jade Druid involves pumping 50+ damage into taunts. The days when Ancient of War was a shutdown move seem quaint these days.

hey guys went from rank 5 and 1 star this morning to top 500 legend (even kicked dog's ass a little bit ago) with this deck:



i actually made this one, feelsgoodman

total stats so far: 51-22

lol i beat the absolute **** out of dog

https://clips.twitch.tv/SweetGeniusPepperDendiFace

"i got destroyed... absolutely crushed"

Nice. I still don't know how you get that volume in in a single day.

aggressive conceding

Yea skelemancer's stats were like 46% WR when played which i suspected a lot of today so it was an easy cut. The list i first borrowed from ran 2x truesilvers in addition to the 3 mana weapon, which resulted in some incredibly awkward hands.

consec could probably still be two of but when i cut the one, i barely noticed at all. In stuff like aggro druid its a lifesaver but outside that, 2 dmg aoe's arent that great anymore. If i cut one thing it'll probably be the first to go

I watched Jmakin for about 5 games and they were all turns 3-5 concedes. He went Tidecaller into Rockpool into War Leader each game.

(just sayin, the "aggressive conceding" line was accurate)

I would bet I used play more games a day than Jmakin but not the past two months.

I'm going to cancel a druid quest for the first time ever.

I'm not convinced pally is better than druid, it may be benefitting from how the meta is shaping up to combat druids/the lack of token shamans. But it's obviously very strong.

what do you think a good line would be for a hearthstone volume prop bet like old bbv days? Total games played in one ladder reset period with a positive winrate stipulation.

Said screw it, made ysera and lich, this deck is really fun. Razor petals are sneaky good with all that extra spell damage, had a couple thalnos thalnos zealot petal petal petal petal lethals already lol.

Glad you like it. Currently I am playing with 1x Sap instead of Mimic Pod; I kept running into awkward spots where my hand was too full with so many card generating cards (I was burning cards almost every game). Not sure Sap is the answer, might run a Shadowblade instead.

I've also won a few games with no Malygos/Ysera and just hitting them with spell power. Valeera helps because you can play 3x Sinister Strike in one turn.

Yeah, also people tend to blow hard removal on edwin / auctioneer so I find I can sometimes stick Ysera or Lich which is gg. Agree on mimic pod, with the ysera lich razor and dk I've milled myself more than I care to admit.

1 server/account or multiple?

Well the spirit of the old threads was mass multi-tabling so I'd say all servers.