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So they're nerfing STB but not giving a refund for Patches? Sigh, 99% of the people who crafted patches only did it because of STB.

Nerfs are otherwise fine and the ladder floors should let people experiment more once they hit the various thresholds.

think they are making the changes too late for me to care and play again but at least they are changing stuff

i think patches is fine as is, just should be a 7 mana card or something./

The meta will improve at least a little bit but yeah it's not going to change the major problems with the game right now. I'm basically tuned out until April. The last time the game was decent was when the sets rotated last year so maybe it'll be good again after the rotation this year?

t1 pirate>coin>evolve patches into Ragnaros would be the new Astral deck, only good

Watching Tidesoftime right now and he's playing a N'Zoth Reno Mage at ~250 Legend. He's up against a Rogue that plays 2 Swashburglars. One gives him a Spellslinger into a Thoughtsteal, and the other gives him an Ethereal Conjurer. What value for 2 1-mana cards.

Make patches 13 mana so no shananigans.

I'm sort of butthurt they didn't do something with Jade Idol mostly. That card allows one deck to cockblock other decks from policing cancer dragons.

Jade Druid is played by ~6.5% people right now. Right now Shaman is played 28% of the time of which probably 80% play 2 Spirit Claws--so 22% of decks. Likewise, Miracle Rogue is 7.5%, MR/Aggro Shaman is ~28% and Pirate Warrior is 12%/Dragon warrior is 4%. So almost HALF the decks were playing STB. Idol could definitely become an issue longterm but it's clearly not an issue now.

Most of the nerfs haven't hit strong but niche cards yet. If this nerf hits aggro decks with pirates hard and Jade Druid becomes huge then I could see them hitting it but I don't see the issue now and I guess they don't either.

control warrior with a lot of anti aggro tech ****s on rogue and aggro shaman

but you cant control warrior cause youre like 5% to win against jade druid.

And there will be a lot more jade druids once they nerf pirates

Data is saying its 75 druid/25 warrior which is bad but there are worse matchups.

We're in an era of rock paper scissors.........isn't that what card games are all about.

Control warr vs jade druid is very winnable if the druid plays bad, and almost all of them do. That's why they play jade druid

jade druid can be enjoyable, the same way that cthun decks were pretty enjoyable imo. In moderation.

It would be extremely boring if fandral wasnt a card though. That guy makes the whole class fun, or at least, it gives it a possibility of fun. (and strength)

just saying it's not an auto loss match no matter how bad the other player is, like freeze mage vs control warr. I've won a handful of those as the freeze mage, but literally all they have to do is hit armor every turn and they win

with jade they need to pull off some of their nastier stuff like gadgetzan into a bunch of jades and be able to survive your burst.. which a lot of them forget about and blow their feral rage to attack for like no reason

We aren't in an era of rock paper scissors. It's an era of rock paper. It's why certain decks become played by 30% of the population.

some news:

http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/y...-set-rotation/

- no adventures this year
- Rag, Sylv, Azuredrake and some more going to wild
- new rogue hero

I don't get why Sylvannas is going lol.

Oh and PO, Ice Lance and Conceal being rotated out is kinda funny.

They're obviously targeting decks that have been around since the game started, miracle rogue, freeze mage and zoo. 2/3 don't see any play right now, so doesn't seem like it will make a huge difference. Slower decks will take a hit from drake sylvanas and rag leaving. Im at least interested to see what standard will be like in the new expansion, but probably just jadestone.

Dunno about Azure Drake. It will always be good in Druid and Rogue. I'm not sure how good it is in Shaman without Spirit Claws. It got a lot of play because of the dragon tag in decks that didn't really want to play it. The dragon tag doesn't look like it will be worth anything now. I guess this is an okay nerf but it's not an insanely OP card

Sylvanas was maybe the most skill testing card in the game. Even if you've played a million games, you're often forced into deep contemplation after your opponent plays her. That seems to be a direction that the developers want to move the game away from, so the nerf makes a lot of sense. Also, very excited to learn that they're going to force feed us a premade deathrattle deck in the next expansion.

Rag nerf seems good. He's so bad against aggro, and against totems, so nobody plays him, but he'll probably get played a lot in the future and it's a dumb card.

It seems like they should have made auctioneer rotate if miracle is a problem instead of conceal. It's what enables the lameness of jade druid too.

Power Overwhelming - Sounds like they're only worried about people casting PO on Leeroy, whatever. I don't think this card is much of a problem in Zoo and wouldn't mind seeing it in that deck forever.

Ice Lance - They have a real problem where there's so much Mage burn in classic that they can barely print any new burn spells without turning the Spend All Mana Throwing Burn At The Face deck into a contender. They needed to nerf something and I would have picked Fireball. Their explanation is disheartening as they think the problem with their dying game is that Freeze Mage is too close to being playable.

Conceal - lol ok whatever, this card isn't even good

Since Classic cards are supposed to be around forever, they simply can't be super awesome or they make the game stale.

They should consider undoing a few of the nerfs they did last year to classic cards and restore them to their prenerf states (like Molten Giant) and put them in this same "Hall of fame" class. Better to move these cards to Wild where they can still be useful than nerf them into non-existence everywhere.

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STILL mad. LOL. This game. like, I can't even.

rotate out the good **** so you can replace it with more bad or broken ****. K blizz, K.

again,

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