Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
October 2010 Open Thread October 2010 Open Thread

10-01-2010 , 09:42 AM
Another month, another open thread. The first feel of fall is here, at least in my part of the world. Hope everyone is running good.
10-01-2010 , 11:57 AM
FINALLY!








10-01-2010 , 12:07 PM
I know...9 hours, 42 minutes late!
10-01-2010 , 12:09 PM
<Sigh> I was supposed to be going to LV this month, but my sitter flaked out on me, so I'll be staying home instead.
10-01-2010 , 12:12 PM
Just let the kid roam around the casino. Problem solved.
10-01-2010 , 01:32 PM
Yeah, seriously, there are more strollers in Vegas casinos than I feel comfortable seeing.

Anyway... a new month, a new mix! It's a funky one. I like spreading music around, so included are links to the wikipedia entries for the artists, and youtube videos for sample songs. A couple of repeats from last month, because I really like them and don't think they've gotten enough play yet. Not nearly as much hip-hop, and what's there is fairly accessible. I expect to get the most heat in my games for Enya, Stan Getz, Fredrick Öhr, and LazyTown.

I tried to find interesting live footage for the videos. If you only pick a few, might I suggest Trey Anastasio, The Budos Band, Duke Ellington, The New Mastersounds, the last Grace Potter track, and the selection of swears I linked for Big Lebowski. For an historical curiosity, the track from Evolution Control Committee is the first mashup ever, done in the early 90s on analog equipment. The Firepower sound effects are taken from the classic pinball game; most of them are a second long, and I hope make for a fun "what the hell was that?" reaction or two as they show up in the shuffle. And I promise the LazyTown video features no Lil Jon.

Barry Adamson: Back to the Cat (style: noir funk jazz; sample track: "Shadow of Death Hotel")
Luther Allison: Soul Fixin' Man (style: blues; sample track: "Soul Fixin' Man")
Trey Anastasio: Trey Anastasio (style: blues funk soul rock; sample track: "Last Tube")
Erykah Badu: New Amerykah Part Two (Return Of The Ankh) (style: neo-soul; sample track: "Gone Baby, Don't Be Long")
The Beatles: Let It Be… Naked (style: pop; sample track: "Across The Universe")

Jeff Beck: Wired (style: fusion rock; sample track: "Blue Wind")
The Black Keys: Brothers (style: blues rock; sample track: "Tighten Up")
Bonerama: Live From New York (style: brass funk; sample track: "Crosstown Traffic")
Bonobo: Animal Magic (style: downtempo; sample track: "The Plug")
James Brown: Funk Power 1970: A Brand New Thang (style: funk (king of); sample track: "Super Bad")

The Budos Band: The Budos Band III (style: afro-soul; sample track: "Unbroken, Unshaven")
Cake: Comfort Eagle (style: post-grunge; sample track: "Short Skirt / Long Jacket")
Leonard Cohen: Songs of Love and Hate (style: folk; sample track: "Love Calls You By Your Name")
Corey Harris: Fish Ain't Bitin' (style: delta blues; sample track: "Bumble Bee")
Cymande: Promised Heights (style: electric funk; sample track: "The Recluse")

Dan the Automator & DJ Shadow: Bombay the Hard Way: Guns, Cars and Sitars (style: bollywood funk; sample track: "Ganges a Go-Go (etc.)")
Digable Planets: Blowout Comb (style: hip hop; sample track: "Blowing Down")
Easy Star All-Stars: Dub Side of the Moon (style: reggae dub; sample track: "Great Dub In The Sky")
Duke Ellington: Live at the Blue Note (style: jazz; sample track: "C Jam Blues")
Enya: Watermark (style: new age; sample track: "Evening Falls")

The Evolution Control Committee: selected tracks from Gunderphonic (style: experimental; sample track: "Rebel Without A Pause (Whipped Cream Mix)")
Four Tet: Everything Ecstatic (style: electronic; sample track: "Sleep, Eat Food, Have Visions")
Funkadelic: One Nation Under A Groove (style: psychedelic soul; sample track: "Who Says A Funk Band Can't Play Rock?!")
G. Love & Special Sauce: The Hustle (style: rock; sample track: "Fishing Song")
Stan Getz & João Gilberto: Getz / Gilberto (style: bossa nova; sample track: "The Girl From Ipanema")

Gipsy Kings: Allegria (style: rumba flamenca; sample track: "Galaxia")
Mike Gordon: Inside In (style: funky rock; sample track: "Soulfood Man")
Grateful Dead: Blues for Allah (2004 reissue) (style: jazz fusion rock; sample track: "Franklin's Tower")
Grateful Dead: Workingman's Dead (2003 reissue) (style: folk rock; sample track: "Uncle John's Band")
Macy Gray: On How Life Is (style: r&b; sample track: "I Can't Wait To Meetchu")

Grant Green: Visions (style: soul jazz; sample track: "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is")
Guitarmageddon: 2005.01.15 San Francisco (live at Slim's, Allman Bros. set) (style: guitar superjam; sample show: "2007.07.07")
Halou: Wiser (style: trip hop; sample track: "I Would Love to Give Up")
Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage (style: hard bop; sample track: "Survival Of The Fittest")
Herbie Hancock: Secrets (style: jazz funk; sample track: album samples)

Handsome Boy Modeling School: White People (style: hip hop; sample track: "Class System")
Frank Klepacki: "Hell March 3" from Command And Conquer Red Alert 3 (style: industrial)
Fela Kuti: The Best of the Black President (style: afrobeat; sample track: "Water No Get Enemy")
Thelonious Monk: Live at the It Club (style: jazz; sample track: "Well, You Needn't")
Monophonics: Playin & Simple (style: funk; sample track: "Baobab Tree")

The New Mastersounds: Ten Years On (style: funk; sample track: "San Frantico")
Fredrick Öhr: Falling Through The Earth (style: electronic; sample track: "Return")
Grace Potter and the Nocturnals: "White Rabbit" from Almost Alice (style: rock)
Grace Potter and the Nocturnals: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals (style: rock; sample track: "Hot Summer Night")
Grace Potter and the Nocturnals: Live Oh Five (style: blues rock; sample track: "Nothing But The Water")

Johnny Rivers: Greatest Hits (style: rock and roll; sample track: "Secret Agent Man")
Bola Sete: Tour De Force (style: acoustic guitar; sample track: "Tour De Force")
Eddie Vedder: Into The Wild (style: folk rock; sample track: "Society")
Ween: 2010.09.17 New York, NY (live at Rumsey Playfiled in Central Park) (style: experimental rock; sample track: "Roses Are Free")
Williams System: Firepower (style: sound effects; sample track: "Firepower")

Various Artists: The Big Lebowski Soundtrack (style: various; sample track: "Dead Flowers")
Various Artists: The Big Lebowski Unofficial Soundtrack (style: various; "Every Single God Damned **** ****ing Swear" (not on album))
Various Artists: Chillosophy Vol. 2 (style: ambient trance; sample track: "Sofa Bunk Bed")
Various Artists: Fahrenheit Project Vol. 2 (style: ambient; sample track: "Folding Time")
Various Artists: Hi-Fidelity Lounge Vol. 2 (style: trip hop; sample track: "Planetary Deadlock")
Various Artists: LazyTown - The Album (style: pop; sample track: "Bing Bang")

Enjoy!
10-01-2010 , 02:09 PM
I just wish you would take the time to make a well-edited and referenced post...just once!

I like the jazz selections. I'll give a listen to some of the other stuff you've linked.
10-01-2010 , 02:29 PM
Whoops, I'm going to have words with my QA department. The Monk link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOvKLvWuZjg
10-01-2010 , 03:38 PM
A much better mix. I've enjoyed everything I've sampled so far.
10-01-2010 , 03:40 PM
Awesome! Let me know what surprised you, what you didn't expect to like, what was a new favorite, etc. Glad to know someone's benefiting from the effort, too.
10-02-2010 , 04:47 PM
It's going to take me several days to go through that one post, pfapfap. And I already have an overwhelming desire to rewatch The Big Lebowski.
10-02-2010 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfapfap
Yeah, seriously, there are more strollers in Vegas casinos than I feel comfortable seeing.
I may have already discussed this before, but I feel strongly that LV is not a place to take kids on vacation - especially young ones. Mine are all under age 7, and I'll stay home rather than drag them along with me.
10-02-2010 , 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmendr1ck
It's going to take me several days to go through that one post, pfapfap. And I already have an overwhelming desire to rewatch The Big Lebowski.
Oh, then you won't have time for my post.... sigh

I guess I'll put my game report elsewhere....
10-02-2010 , 07:12 PM
Haha!

I'm glad at least some people are getting something out of my obsessive narcissism... but damn, this is a good mix! I had it on shuffle for most of yesterday, and now this afternoon, enjoying everything. I think the LazyTown songs are a good break from all the jazz and funk, because it's fun j-pop influenced kids' music, and by the time you go "what the hell is this?" the song's almost over anyway. And the unofficial Lebowski soundtrack has dialogue snippets from the movie, which are nice on random (but sadly not the blathering with Dude in the limo). Ween fits in well, too, and it's a good recording.
10-02-2010 , 07:15 PM
Oh, and what the hell, throw this out there... a great track by Phish at the Greek shows in Berkeley this past summer, one of their prog-rockiest jams, with good Hammond B3 work. Official HD recordings released by the band, this one is called "Maze" ... Good build to the end, and you can really see the interplay between the band members (and the lighting guy) ... maybe you can see me in the audience!

10-04-2010 , 10:12 AM
Whine of the day.

I played in a 1/2 raked game last night. Typically loose and aggressive, with lots of over-calling. I was up and down and up again, then got lucky on one hand when the board paired, making my flopped set a fullhouse against an opponent I was pretty sure had a flopped straight. He checked and I went all-in for a pot-sized bet. I thought he would call and he did. He had flopped a straight.

So I was up maybe $250, and subsequently flopped quad 6's, so I was likely to win a $100 jackpot as well. Then I got into this hand with the biggest maniac at the table, who they call Dead Money. I had QQ in the CO, raised 5BB and got a couple of callers. Flop of J84 rainbow. I bet $25 and maniac was the only caller. Turn of 7. I bet $50, and maniac raised me $125 more.

I was the tightest player at the table, by far, and had made a few lay downs. I read this guy as making a play and trying to push me off the hand. I went with that read and called. The river was a 5, and he pushed all-in, and had me well covered.

I could have folded here, I know, and probably should have with four to a straight, but this fool had shown bluffs and I thought I was a likely target. I called and he showed 76 for a made gutshot. So he was way behind until the river and sucked out on me. Tough beat for me. I bought in again and by the time I was paid for the quads, I was down $15. I cashed out and left. Could have been worse, but it still hurt.
10-04-2010 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eneely
Whine of the day.

I played in a 1/2 raked game last night. Typically loose and aggressive, with lots of over-calling. I was up and down and up again, then got lucky on one hand when the board paired, making my flopped set a fullhouse against an opponent I was pretty sure had a flopped straight. He checked and I went all-in for a pot-sized bet. I thought he would call and he did. He had flopped a straight.

So I was up maybe $250, and subsequently flopped quad 6's, so I was likely to win a $100 jackpot as well. Then I got into this hand with the biggest maniac at the table, who they call Dead Money. I had QQ in the CO, raised 5BB and got a couple of callers. Flop of J84 rainbow. I bet $25 and maniac was the only caller. Turn of 7. I bet $50, and maniac raised me $125 more.

I was the tightest player at the table, by far, and had made a few lay downs. I read this guy as making a play and trying to push me off the hand. I went with that read and called. The river was a 5, and he pushed all-in, and had me well covered.

I could have folded here, I know, and probably should have with four to a straight, but this fool had shown bluffs and I thought I was a likely target. I called and he showed 76 for a made gutshot. So he was way behind until the river and sucked out on me. Tough beat for me. I bought in again and by the time I was paid for the quads, I was down $15. I cashed out and left. Could have been worse, but it still hurt.
Normally I guess we all toss overpairs postflop to turn agression, especially deep. But vs. maniacs I can understand why it's just burning money to bail with such strong hands vs. their crap range. What you could do next time though in spots like these is either (a) shove the turn if you think he's full of crap/on a crappy draw often enough so if he calls he's chasimng getting the worst of it or (b) call and decide ahead of time what cards you are folding to. I find when I manage to make up my mind ahead of time the next street is easier since I already conceptualized my river play given the card that falls.
10-04-2010 , 10:49 AM
Yikes, I thought you were going to say T9. You weren't that deep, why not shove the turn? He's calling you all day with TP.
10-04-2010 , 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lanyi
Normally I guess we all toss overpairs postflop to turn agression, especially deep. But vs. maniacs I can understand why it's just burning money to bail with such strong hands vs. their crap range. What you could do next time though in spots like these is either (a) shove the turn if you think he's full of crap/on a crappy draw often enough so if he calls he's chasimng getting the worst of it or (b) call and decide ahead of time what cards you are folding to. I find when I manage to make up my mind ahead of time the next street is easier since I already conceptualized my river play given the card that falls.
(a) I considered shoving the turn, but there was a chance he had two pair already, in spite of my read. Of course, I was getting pot committed, so it was a do or die moment.

(b) This is a good approach. Perhaps I could have told myself to fold to another another straight card on the river. With a J874 board, that's a good portion of the deck! So with that approach, it is another reason to let it go on the turn, I guess. But it would have saved me on the river...or given a large pot to him on a pure bluff.
10-04-2010 , 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfapfap
Yikes, I thought you were going to say T9. You weren't that deep, why not shove the turn? He's calling you all day with TP.
Well, I considered that I could already be up against two pair. But everything about the flop made me think he had nothing, and I was right. If he was bluffing big, he might do it again on the river. Just me being greedy in the wrong spot. But I don't love my river call, that's for sure.
10-04-2010 , 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eneely
Well, I considered that I could already be up against two pair.
...so when he had a possibility of even more two pair hands, plus a one-card straight, that was the time to get your money in?

You're a bit vague about the stack sizes. You were up $250 before the quads? How much did you make there? And what does "up $250" mean? What was the starting stack? Were there rebuys?
10-04-2010 , 11:40 AM
I know, I know...as already admitted.
10-04-2010 , 11:44 AM
Ninja edit. What were the stacks?
10-04-2010 , 11:57 AM
It's tough for me not to pay the loose monkey-aggros I play against in these situations, simply because an overpair is almost always good against short buy-in players who love to shove gutshots and TP bad kicker hands.

Against reasonable players , both of lanyi's suggestions are good. Shoving the turn is probably the approach I would take if I put villain on a TP hand or a strong draw. Calling with a plan for the river will get more value out of bluffs and weak draws, but there's always the danger of a suckout or a made hand - that's how these types of players get paid.
10-04-2010 , 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfapfap
Ninja edit. What were the stacks?
Non-ninja first read on your part. I did not edit.

I had about 450, so was getting about 2 to 1 on the river.

      
m