Flushdrew,
Aside from him being an ass, I love when people play who don't care about the money. It often goes like it did here, if someone is perceptive in how to play them. And you can find fish like this at every level, it seems.

On the other hand, people like this make we want to play with just friends. Spending time with random douchebags is one downside to playing poker in casinos or cardrooms. On one hand, you don't mind taking their money, but on the other hand, it can be annoying just dealing with them.

Check out the last edition of the 2+2 magazine. There is an updated survey of the poker action in LV.

eneely - I think you just might be the only mod on 2+2 who hasn't exercised his ability to change his own undertitle.

eneely
Only one bullet

I did read that, and it shows that overall poker is down a bit. My concern is heading into town at a time of year when there aren't as many tourists; I don't want to end up sitting at a table full of local regs every time I play.

Of course, I doubt that many decent locals will be grinding 1/2NL, so it's probably not that big a deal.

Oh wow I hope that's just colorful phrasing, and that's not how the conversation went with Mr. Grumpypants.

Yeah, that's the problem if points are weighted too heavily. Heck, mine is smoother than yours, and we still have a few early runaways. Sadly, in the long run, it WILL hurt attendance, but that's how these things go. Glad it's going well so far!

Really? The only one? I really haven't cared that much about it. But maybe I should exercise my one minuscule perk.

Hm...maybe

eneely
One bullet

I guess this would be too obscure.

eneely
Baby makes three

Can't resist... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5KikCieJlw

I haven't watched this show in years. I don't remember how I even chose that avatar, actually. But you go with it.

How about:

eneely
Nip it!

I like "One Bullet" because of the poker association.

Yeah, but Nip It! has a nice moderator tie-in.

On the other hand, my recent gun-related posts show I need to nip it myself, sometimes.

I vote for "one bullet" but it needs to be lower-case, I think.

Your birthday hand only plays in a rigged deck? Sure were a lot of x-suited fours and deuces in play...

FYP

Mini-strat question.

Last night I'm sitting with ~ 160bb when I pick up AA in the SB. Someone opens for 5bb and gets 2 callers, I repop it to 24bb, BB behind me flats and the other 3 call as well.
Pot is now 120bb and I have ~ 140bb behind.

Flop comes 884 with 2 's

What's the best play here?

On the one hand if I put any more money in I'm basically committed, I don't think I have enough to fire 2 streets since if I get called turn bet will be too small relative to the pot. So I'm thinking just shove and hope to get value if someone picked up a FD or has a medium PP and puts me on AK?

On the other hand a shove here kinda turns my hand face up and will be an overbet to the pot.

What say you?

How long are the levels in this upcoming one?

hehee...the deck we use has 8 4's and 12 deuces...

Aces on a draw heavy board against 4 others? with no flush on the board yet i'd absolutely want to charge as much as possible to let them draw. but, then again, you probably get called by the Nut flush draw. and any 8. and probably any overpair too... and you are drawing to only an Ace against trips, and fading 7 cards at least to the flush.

hard to play.

i'd probably ship if i felt the others were weak enough to fold. i've check called aces in this spot too. in fact, had this situation almost exactly a few weeks ago. and check called the whole way, to a missed flush draw and a missed straight. got 3 streets of value that way. and controlled my losses if the flush or straight came in.

so.

what did you do?

You have a one-pair hand and an SPR of 1. I'd ship it without even blinking. The 8s are mildly troubling, but not really all that much with such a high preflop raise. An overbet of the pot isn't anything all that bad or unusual, it's just fallen out of favor lately. There's no limiting your losses, because any bets by others need to be called by you. In fact, I prefer to have a bit more than the pot in this situation, so that I can shove. It's a pretty sweet pot to pick up, and the turn could really ruin your hand, either by beating you, or by killing your chance of getting called.

I shoved All in. To my surprise everyone folded even though there were those who speculated I was doing it with AK (which is possible - I'd probably play it the same in that spot). I guess nobody had an overpair (like 99-JJ). One time I missed the maniac

I'm happy taking the pot down now, and I'm happy with a call from a FD, AK or a smaller PP. Shove & pray that A8/78/89 isn't out there.

Besides, you might have dodged a bad beat on the river. You have to make them pay to draw when you think you are likely to have the better of it.

You doubled up without a showdown. That's not an awful result.

pfapfap is wise... ^ +1 +1 ^



how did the rest of the game go?

Tho' as I think about it, betting 60 and then 80 on the turn might not be so bad either, but it's higher variance. There's absolutely no reason for you to fold at any point in this hand. But I still think shoving is fine. It'd be interesting to estimate some ranges and think about what calls a shove vs what gets there for hands that call less, and how often either is likely to happen.

I would do this ^^ about 30% of the time, and shove 70% of the time. I don't like advice that is too programmatic.

Big Joe does have a big lead right now. He's the only player to have two good finishes. The 2nd and 3rd place player from the 1st event busted early in the 2nd event. The 2nd place player of event 2 missed event 1 to go to Dallas for the Cowboys-giants Monday night game. The 3rd and 4th place finishers were way out of the money. Once Big Joe cools off, we'll be fine. The other Joe has 2 bubble finishes and currently sits in 5th place.

For Event 1, we had 10 players and the points were distributed:

For Event 2, we had 12 players and the points were distributed:

I don't think the point system is our problem - it's our play. We need to take down Big Joe.