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Old 11-09-2010, 12:23 AM   #1
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Davinci Table Top

http://www.amazon.com/Vinci-Player-P...191880&sr=1-12

Hey guys,

Question:
I have a full size table right now, but space is tight in my apt so I'm thinking of making some changes. I'm in an apartment in Brooklyn and really need the closet space taken up by my table.

When I have friends over to play, it's a hassle to move my kitchen table, rearrange chairs, etc. Since my home game is really just for casual, low stakes tourneys, it's a pain to set this up every time I host.

Will this table top hold 9 players comfortably?

Do the noticeable ridges on the table affect play at all? Meaning, if I'm dealing cards across the felt, will the ridge have any effect (make a card bounce, flip it over, etc)? If you don't know what I'm talking about, the table folds up and the folding creases are actually on the top of the felt...

My kitchen table can't handle the 84 x 42, but this size (79 x 36 should work). The length of the table will cause it to hang about 3 inches over (the width is fine) on each side, will this be stable?

I'm ready to make the change but don't want to compromise the "quality" of my game...thoughts? Will this get the job done?

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:28 AM   #2
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Re: Davinci Table Top

http://discountcasinogear.com/store/...affcode=SEARCH

or

http://pokerhoody.com/
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:46 AM   #3
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Re: Davinci Table Top

Thanks for the links. I would be a bit concerned that chips / cards would fly right of the table with no raised edges around the table...
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:04 AM   #4
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Re: Davinci Table Top

I 2nd tit4tat. If you deal to the stacks, the cards won't fly off.

But what you have linked wouldn't be bad. It's nice to have a rail to lean on, and I think a 3 inch overhang won't make it tip up. But those cup holders are worthless.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:32 AM   #5
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Re: Davinci Table Top

Thanks. The rubber foam (1st link) would fit my table perfectly. Anyone currently using this? I may take a shot with it.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:46 AM   #6
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I think The Palimax has one of those, and gives it good marks.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:59 PM   #7
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Re: Davinci Table Top

CT did a group buy of the neoprene roll-up covers not too long ago. Some were very happy, while others complained that the toppers were wrinkled and would never lie flat.

A Poker Hoody won't have this problem, but it will also cost you 2-3x as much.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:20 PM   #8
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Re: Davinci Table Top

I have one of the chiptalk flat pads and love it. Don't order the DCG one just yet, I need a chance to buy a couple more before they run out! At $30, they're a steal.

Work on your pitching technique for about 5 minutes, and you'll be able to make them stop where you want them to. You shouldn't just be flinging them into the rail even on a table that has one.

The chiptalk pads' wrinkles worked themselves out over time. I think the manufacturer learned how to package them more carefully since then.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:36 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the opinions guys. Poker hoody is too pricy for what you get imo.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:08 PM   #10
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Re: Davinci Table Top

I'm going to go with this one -
http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product8517.html

3 inches extra length wise on each side, I doubt it will make a real difference.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:23 PM   #11
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Re: Davinci Table Top

The roll-ups a nice if you need something simple and portable. I keep mine in the car.

I sort of prefer the folding, padded, with-rails table toppers -- and my club uses them; but they each fill a different niche.

If you've got a table that you want to cover, and there's a folding, padded, with-rails topper that fits your table, and you've got room to store it, and you're not looking for something ultra-portable (folding tables are portable, but they're...luggable - think a 1986 Compaq computer versus an iPad), then they're ideal.

However, for $30, the roll-out tables are fantastic. You can put them on an oversize table much nicer than the fold-ups. If a fold-up doesn't cover your table, you get a double-lip, with a ring of your old table and then a railing, etc. The roll-up is nice for that, in that it can sit in the middle of the table, and the small change from table to giant-mouse-pad is minimal.

Cards slide a little TOO much, but it makes dealing from the ends easier, frankly.

The roll-out and the fold-up are two different solutions. They have their pros and cons.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:45 PM   #12
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The roll-ups a nice if you need something simple and portable. I keep mine in the car.

I sort of prefer the folding, padded, with-rails table toppers -- and my club uses them; but they each fill a different niche.

If you've got a table that you want to cover, and there's a folding, padded, with-rails topper that fits your table, and you've got room to store it, and you're not looking for something ultra-portable (folding tables are portable, but they're...luggable - think a 1986 Compaq computer versus an iPad), then they're ideal.

However, for $30, the roll-out tables are fantastic. You can put them on an oversize table much nicer than the fold-ups. If a fold-up doesn't cover your table, you get a double-lip, with a ring of your old table and then a railing, etc. The roll-up is nice for that, in that it can sit in the middle of the table, and the small change from table to giant-mouse-pad is minimal.

Cards slide a little TOO much, but it makes dealing from the ends easier, frankly.

The roll-out and the fold-up are two different solutions. They have their pros and cons.
Thanks for the advice!! I ordered the fold-up; I'm just really hoping the extra 3'' (overlap on length on each side of the fold up vs the smaller table) doesn't prove to be an annoyance.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:48 PM   #13
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Thanks for the advice!! I ordered the fold-up; I'm just really hoping the extra 3'' (overlap on length on each side of the fold up vs the smaller table) doesn't prove to be an annoyance.
3" total, or 1.5" on each end?

If it's at the LONG ends, then people putting their elbows on the table are going to make it buckle up from time to time, especially on whatever end of the tri-fold where the hinge goes down.

This end -> /\/

That guy is going to put his elbows on the padding and he's going to occasionally bump the table up.

On the short ends, the table is fine.

Don't worry about it though, it's a minor annoyance, and people learn quickly to work around it.

Get a beach towel for under your table. The hinges and such will scratch the surface of what you put it on.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:58 PM   #14
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3" total, or 1.5" on each end?
3'' on each end of the long side. My table is 72'' long unfortunately. I was thinking that anything more than 3'' would be an issue but 3'' is manageable. Also, I really like having a rail and (probably useless) cupholders
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:07 PM   #15
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3'' on each end of the long side. My table is 72'' long unfortunately. I was thinking that anything more than 3'' would be an issue but 3'' is manageable. Also, I really like having a rail and (probably useless) cupholders
Yup, sometimes the fat guy on the end is going to make your table buckle and spill a beer on the end cup-holder. They learn quickly, however.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:14 PM   #16
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Yup, sometimes the fat guy on the end is going to make your table buckle and spill a beer on the end cup-holder. They learn quickly, however.
haha, my real table has had plenty of similar spills from the fat guy, the skinny guy, and the medium sized guy.

What kinda felt quality can I expect from this thing?
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:53 AM   #17
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Yup, sometimes the fat guy on the end is going to make your table buckle and spill a beer on the end cup-holder.
HEY! I resemble that remark.
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:56 AM   #18
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The cup holders on table tops are utterly worthless. Don't even try to use them for drinks especially with the chance the table shifts because someone on the end leaned on the top (since it sticks out). As for the quality of the felt it changes. Some have terrible cheap flet, some come with speed cloth. Make sure to get a recommendation for the one you intend to buy.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:54 AM   #19
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Actually, they are worse than worthless. They are a liability. They cause drinks to spill, because people feel they should use them, and they don't hold the drinks.

Seems like one thing a cup holder should do is hold cups.
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Re: Davinci Table Top

^^^^ This.

If you're set on a fold-up, you might want to get the version that doesn't have cupholders at all:

http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product4537.html
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:08 PM   #21
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^^^^ This.

If you're set on a fold-up, you might want to get the version that doesn't have cupholders at all:

http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product4537.html
I went with this one: http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product8517.html

I can tell the folks on the ends to be careful with their drinks, or not to use the end cupholders at all. Plus this will provide a much more portable option for my out of home tournies. Always gonna be some positives and negatives.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:10 PM   #22
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Depending on how your seating lines up with the cup-holders and what sort of drinks you have and their sizes, the cup-holders might work fine for you.

We're moving around every week, so we don't always have side-tables, etc.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:33 AM   #23
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So I got the table yesterday:
http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product8517.html

Basically, it fits my table perfectly, hangs a tiny bit over on the long ends but has no noticeable effect and there are no cupholders directly on the ends anyway. My one complaint is the "felt." It has a static-cling feel to it, not sure what the material is. Cards fly smoothly, it's just a feel thing when you have your hand on the table. This is not to say it doesn't serve it's purpose well for home games; the construction is high quality and it will be great, but the material is a bit annoying.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:35 PM   #24
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So I got the table yesterday:
http://discountcasinogear.com/store/product8517.html

Basically, it fits my table perfectly, hangs a tiny bit over on the long ends but has no noticeable effect and there are no cupholders directly on the ends anyway. My one complaint is the "felt." It has a static-cling feel to it, not sure what the material is. Cards fly smoothly, it's just a feel thing when you have your hand on the table. This is not to say it doesn't serve it's purpose well for home games; the construction is high quality and it will be great, but the material is a bit annoying.

If/when you get sick of it, buy some foam material and some decent felt, get some 1" C-clamps and you can convert your kitchen table into a decent poker table..... depending on how big the kitchen table is.
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The cup holders on table tops are utterly worthless. Don't even try to use them for drinks especially with the chance the table shifts because someone on the end leaned on the top (since it sticks out). As for the quality of the felt it changes. Some have terrible cheap flet, some come with speed cloth. Make sure to get a recommendation for the one you intend to buy.
I used to use one of these table tops. The cup holders are indeed terrible. In fact, the table top would be better off without them as all they do is encourage players to use them and spill on the table. I always made sure to provide little end tables around the table for drinks ($15 TV tables from WalMart)

I've never had issue with cards flying off, however the felt often bulges out at the seams making a ridge that cards can catch on and flip over. The joints are pretty flimsy as they are only held together by the felt.

I would recommend cutting the felt along the joints and breaking the table into 3 pieces. Pin the loose felt on the edges down and use heavy duty velcro to reattach the pieces. This will keep the felt from bulging and allow you to use the two end pieces to make a round table for nights when you play short-handed. I had this all planned out but ended up replacing the table top with a full poker table.

I've had 10 people around this type of table top no problem.
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