This is a hand / situation we will be discussing in an up coming episode of the Top Pair Home Game Poker podcast (
www.toppair.net). It is a hand I was involved in so my perspectives might be tainted but I am sure Eric will offer a "fair & balanced" analysis. I apologize that I don't recall, or have record of, every single detail:
We were in the late stages of a HOE, low buy in, 2 table, 17 participant tournament. It was the final table and we were down to 5 players and the blinds were significant. It was an Omaha round. I had the button and had a pretty big chip stack, probably either 1st or 2nd. My hand included QQ, I am not sure of the other two cards but I don't think they had any bearing on the eventual outcome.
Pre-flop limps by 2 or 3 players in front of me, I also limp and player B, in the blind, checks the option. Flop has a queen, no flush possibilities, and two cards to a potential, middle card straight. Player B makes a bet, the other limpers fold. I declare my intention to make a pot size bet / raise. Before my bet amount is defined, B claims a re-raise to "all in". Having the "nuts" with limited re-draw possibilities on the flop, I quickly announce that I call that "all in" action. This is where it gets a bit fuzzy to me. We had a set dealer who was not playing at the time. My recollection is he stated "all in bet & called". As is the procedure we follow when it is heads up, and one player is all in, I turned up my hand and tabled it. Having the "nuts" at the time I didn't want to provoke any SLOW ROLL allegation, so I acted swiftly & decisively to flip up my cards.
Player B then announces that in fact his all in action had been improper, as all his chips at that point exceed what would have been due as the result of the cap of only allowing a pot size raise. He further stated that because of that factor, and the result that he still had a small quantity of chips behind, he would not be turning up his cards.
This left me feeling very vulnerable in that my hand was face up for B to see but I had no idea what his 4 down cards were, what draws he had, how far ahead I was, etc. This was compounded by the fact that there were 2 more betting streets, the turn & the river. Unfortunately my exposed cards constituted the bell that couldn't be un-wrung. I was in a very stressful and irritating situation.
The turn came out, giving the third card to a straight, and my anxiety level ramped up higher. B checked and I checked. The river was a blank. B checked, I bet all in, B folded, I won the pot.
In retrospect, and after discussing this with a couple of other players from the group, I feel I made two significant errors. I am sure on dissecting the hand there were others. First, my misplaced confidence that the raise made by B was a legal raise. I relied on his analysis of what was a pot size re-raise and that based on his conclusion it would have put him all in. I also didn't occur to me that because B raised my pot size raise that now the betting was still open for me to re-pot and the all in of B's chips would have been achieved or that B would have folded to my re-raise.
Hind sight of course is always 20/20. The "rest of the story" concludes with B clawing his way back from a short stack and taking 2nd place instead of having his chips all in on the hand at issue, losing that hand, and being out of the tournament.
Would love to have some feedback & input from you guys that we can add to our segment
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