Present Bran can hear the girl. Past Bran briefly warged into past Hodor (you see his eyes). Bran was the connection. Her message got locked into his brain.

It does make sense. It wasn't a paradox it was a causality loop. These are different things.

So you are saying the girl is indirectly controlling bran who is then indirectly control holdor in the past?..... I mean. I guess?

no I explained that wrong

Why do some of the children look like actual children with their eyebrows burned off and others look like cat-people?

yeah, i think there was a moment where you see that Bran can hear Meera even though he's in the past. he shows a sign of recognition of what she's saying. and then we see someone warg into present-day Hodor and he starts moving (i think)? but we know that Bran can interact with the visions, so somehow it seems like maybe because he is warged into present-day Hodor while also present in a vision with past Hodor, that it creates a loop and short-circuits past Hodor. or something.

Bran can warg into two people at once now

I assumed they just thought the army would take longer than five minutes to arrive.

it's symbolism. they were mad

Watching scene now. Bran never warged into present Hodor. I think it's what Cotton said. Bran did it without even realizing because he was subconsciously hearing the girl saying it.

until he says otherwise in an interview, I"m going with #2

Bran warged into Hodor via young Willis because his conscious was still in the past. This brought Willis into the "future" and he was looking through the eyes of his future self while being controlled by Bran. He watches his own death and "holds the door"

This traumatizes him and he lives the rest of his life presumably knowing exactly how he will die. It's probably why Hodor freaked out in the past when Bran warged into him, because he thought it might have been his time to die. Hell, he freaked out and froze whenever there was any trouble brewing. He knew all along, he just didn't know when. God damnit =(

That's why Hodor has always been "Hodor". Everything is linear from his perspective, Bran is jumping back and forth through time but we have already seen all of the consequences of his actions (because they were in the past). Bran could be the Lord of the Light for example.

That final seen was great.

phenomenal episode, top 5 death in television history.

i don't think we are considering the "inside the episode" materials spoilers, but just in case:

Rip direwolf, rip Wyllis.

And to you mothe****ers trying to dissect Hodor, how about we just know told how the whitewalkers came to be, the ****ing Bloodraven died, and Bran now is the lock to mayyybe somehow stopping the whitewalkers.

So enough w the dissecting and enjoy. Or just stop watching, if you are somehow unsatisfied.

And how can you not think Hodor was planned out from the start is beyond me.

Thats like saying the whitewalkers being made by the children wasnt planned from the start, when now that **** makes perfect ****ing sense.

This has to be the top one

And i keep cursing cuz thats all ive done since i saw the episode 30 mins ago. **** that was epic tv. Im a bookreader but damn that episode was the tits, insanely enjoyable.

wtf, her character is better than ever right now. what is wrong with you?

Wow, what an episode. I had a moment where I was losing my faith in this show but holy **** they have really delivered in the past couple episodes.

Hodor!

Bran had to fly too close to the sun. Seems like there was a lot of learning left on the table.

Leaf went out like a G. So did the big guy.

Knowing that while in a "vision/flashback" you shouldn't be touched by the Night King unless you want to suffer immediate and utterly horrible danger seems like a piece of info that Mr. Three-Eyed Raven should have clued Bran in on.

Really good analysis. I was thinking it was more the control of Hodor because of the previous episode where Bran controlled him (if I'm remembering correctly) but if its just a vision of how he dies that would make sense.

watching arya watch that street theater performance gave me a great appreciation for the worldbuilding

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1. Arya just ****ing die already. God your character has taken an epic 1.5 season nose dive! GOAT episode, and even still all you manage to do is get your ass beaten with a stick for like the 19th time.

Someone give me my 6 minutes back.

2. Ban the guy who spoilered Hodor. Who does that?