Pretty sure we know why they wielded obsidian weapons.

Its curious that both the First Men and the Children seem to worship the same gods.

Hmm didn't really consider the Hound surviving, but yeah he probably does. It's not even just a GoT thing. Any time in movies/TV a major character's death is not shown, it's because he didn't die. The oldest trick in the book and I fall every time. Sometimes I feel like I should not be reading this thread and let myself be the victim of my own stupidity, it's a pretty enjoyable way to watch TV.

And yeah the brotherhood is a lock to be back.

I don't think that's a problem for the reason you mentioned, he simply landed his fleet north of the wall.

My prediction for s5: They will camp at the wall. Stannis will be in a bad mood. Melisandre will burn some non-believers and take semi-regular nude baths. Somewhere on the other side of the white walkers kidnap another baby. Meanwhile stuff will be happening elsewhere.

Really? Not sure if serious, but I'm pretty sure Tywin was bull****ting.

Old characters that will likely be back: Jaqen, Thoros of Myr, Dondarrion, Blackfish

Old characters with potential to reach never seen before level of greatness: Sansa, Ramsay, Arya, the Mountain (kinda)

New characters: Magic girl and old man north of the wall, Tommen

They've got enough to work with within the current crew of characters, but as always we'll likely see some new characters as well. Stannis and Dany also has the potential to not be dull. No reason to be worried imo.

If she would´ve buddyed up with The hound she would have mercykilled him, that was what he did to people out of respect and taught her. He realized she wouldnt, thats why he tried to taunt her into it, however he did not go as far as lying about Sansa. In the end the hound only followed orders, mostly, I firmly believe he had somewhat of a moral compass but he did not give much for the weak/beta males(stealing from people he is 100% wont survive much longer, why not then in that case, it will come in handy.)

Mountain is coming back as a frankensteinish monster. Bronns storyline got massively more interesting and he is very likely the biggest player in the endgame of GoT, Arya becoming a braaavos-trained waterdancing-assassin is gonna be awesome, I imagine her to be the female version of Assassins creed when she come of age.

Cersei will burn Kings Landing to the ground with poor decisions now when she is basically left in charge because Tommen is such a mommys boy, cant imagine she will hold the power for more than half a season or so. Dany did not kill the dragons you tools, she left them there to be caged, they will be fed. She needs to locate her rogue-bigass black dragon and probably kill it/cage it aswell.

LOVED the skeletons-scene, LOVED the children, very peter pan. That line of them being there before the first men was powerful, old old beings. The old dude in the tree is basically a GOD having the eyes of every raven or wtf he said(1000 eyes and ears), knowing everything and probably a farseer.

That fight between Brianne and The hound was EPIC, I thought it was over severaltimes and they just kept fighting, Jon Snow is finally getting likeable.


Wow. 10 long months now.

If she would´ve buddyed up with The hound she would have mercykilled him, that was what he did to people out of respect and taught her. He realized she wouldnt, thats why he tried to taunt her into it, however he did not go as far as lying about Sansa. In the end the hound only followed orders, mostly, I firmly believe he had somewhat of a moral compass but he did not give much for the weak/beta males(stealing from people he is 100% wont survive much longer, why not then in that case, it will come in handy.)

Mountain is coming back as a frankensteinish monster. Bronns storyline got massively more interesting and he is very likely the biggest player in the endgame of GoT, Arya becoming a braaavos-trained waterdancing-assassin is gonna be awesome, I imagine her to be the female version of Assassins creed when she come of age.

Cersei will burn Kings Landing to the ground with poor decisions now when she is basically left in charge because Tommen is such a mommys boy, cant imagine she will hold the power for more than half a season or so. Dany did not kill the dragons you tools, she left them there to be caged, they will be fed. She needs to locate her rogue-bigass black dragon and probably kill it/cage it aswell.

LOVED the skeletons-scene, LOVED the children, very peter pan. That line of them being there before the first men was powerful, old old beings. The old dude in the tree is basically a GOD having the eyes of every raven or wtf he said(1000 eyes and ears), knowing everything and probably a farseer.

That fight between Brianne and The hound was EPIC, I thought it was over severaltimes and they just kept fighting, Jon Snow is finally getting likeable.


Wow. 10 long months now.

The look Melisandre gave Jon Snow through the fire seemed important. King's blood?

She turned on him when he called her a whore while trying to get her to leave the city. Up until that point it seemed like she was all in with him. When he thought it was no longer safe for her to be in KL, he tried to get her to leave but she would have none of it. So he broke her heart in an attempt to get her to go and instead incurred her wrath.

Hell hath no fury yadda yadda yadda

She's already shown to be ok with the incest. Obv gonna get a lil mother/son action in S5

......
Gtfo

Because Brienne just told her that she was basically in league with Jaime Lannister, the guy who killed her friend Jory (remember the guy he stabbed in the eye in season 1) and crippled her father before his death.

I was somewhat basing my read on her stealing the gold - something she learned from him. He stole the gold from the dying guy they found, dead men don't need gold or something like that.

Her then stealing the Hound's gold, I took as a bit of an homage. She may have just been turning the tables and using his own moves against him, but even if that's the case - still shows that she in fact did learn from him and so has used him as a mentor for staying alive and being strong, even if she still didn't consider him a friend.

But - you're probably right. If she really had changed on him, she probably would have considered it a kindness to kill him fast. Also would have reinforced her following in his footsteps.

imo it's because she thinks Brienne works for the lannister because the hound did point out that her sword is from Lannister gold to which Brienne did not deny.

Im wanting to jump in the boat of "Dany left the dragons to die" because what the hell is she gonna do when she decides to feed/unchain them again? Those dragons are gonna be pissed off beyond belief.

It was in the beginning of the season when they were all eating and Dany tries to get close and one of those dragons screams at her like "piss off, were eating." So what the hell is gonna happen to whomever opens the dragon crate?

hbo saving some money by reusing the set from true detective finale for the children's lair

reading this thread, it's literally painful how bad some people are at watching tv

True Detective flashback with the tree tunnels IMO.

Thought the episode was good, wrapped up (wrapped up is wrong verbiage as they were all cliffhangers) the majority of story lines and left us in a good spot for next season.

GOaT

The fact that the Children were previously defeated by men is encouraging as it indicates that magic is not completely overpowering in the series. I am not sure how much it really adds (so far I could probably do without the fire god stuff), but I think it's balanced enough that it doesn't detract from the series.

Not one person in here has yet to explain the whole Arya scene to me, the shae one was me just being an idiot & taing her out of my head as i assumed she went somewhere safe as that's what was told by tyrion.

- The hound & Arya fled the eyrie unexplained, makes no sense.

- The hound fights for Arya for what reason?, because he didnt trust brienne as she could be trying to take her back to the lannisters & he was protecting her or because he wanted to keep her as a prisoner. If he wanted her as a prisoner then this makes no sense cause arya could of fled to the Eyrie when she was at the gates no?.

- Arya then instead of killing the hound to end his suffering decides to steal his gold and walk away for him to suffer a slow painful death when to this point you would assume she doesn't mind his company & in alot of ways he kept her safe.


As much as a fanboy of this show i am this whole Arya hound story line was done poorly, Arya is also too small & weak to become a killer on her own going after cersei etc, hope they recast her & make the story line skip a few years into the future cause its a hard sell to make a 5'2 90lb girl a killer muchless someone who will even survive on her own.

end rant/

I think Hound fights Brienne for a number of reasons. First, he is not the type to take orders from anyone. Second, its not like he can trust her that she isn't trying to collect the bounty on his head. Third, he wants her Valeryain steel blade as its worth a fortune. And finally, he probably assumes that he can very easily defeat a woman, so why not.

Hound just giving her away would have made no sense and been completely out of character.

this episode was weird - just seemed kind of forced.

It seemed out of character for Tyrion to kill Shae and his father. He's not a killer. Just get the f out of KL makes more sense for him.

I don't get the whole Mance's army collapse either. They were 100K strong with giants and fierce warriors, then they get turned away by a handful of soldiers in the NW, then they insta-surrender to Stannis?

Haha thought the same thing.

lol'ed at hound's kick

blue balls for brienne