Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Game of Thrones TV Thread - ***NO BOOKREADERS*** Game of Thrones TV Thread - ***NO BOOKREADERS***

05-02-2014 , 09:34 AM
Dont think any of them can die (though didnt think Ned, Robb or Cat could either) wouldnt care too much about Bran tbh, I do like Jon though.
I'm more worried about Ygritte dying which I think is very possible and I would not like to see that
05-02-2014 , 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by evildeadalive
At the very least we need to find who his mother is. (also father, not convinced Ned cheated)
I'm fully convinced he didn't cheat. The more I think about that conversation he had with King Robert, the more I believe the cheating thing was just a cover story for whatever really happened. I'm still sticking with the idea that Jon's real father is either Raegar Targaryen or King Robert, and Jon's mother is Ned's sister.
05-02-2014 , 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chim17
More than 1 IMO.
05-02-2014 , 10:47 AM
No mention of Shae taking facials from when she used to be a porn star?
05-02-2014 , 11:06 AM
The KansasCT thing isn't happening. It was a joke I guess nbd.
05-02-2014 , 12:27 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...by-combat.html

There may or may not be reader comments at the bottom, I didn't check, but I would assume some may not be spoiler-free.
05-02-2014 , 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arggg93
Dont think any of them can die (though didnt think Ned, Robb or Cat could either) wouldnt care too much about Bran tbh, I do like Jon though.
I'm more worried about Ygritte dying which I think is very possible and I would not like to see that
Ygritte is very expendable, Bran not so much.
05-02-2014 , 02:30 PM
Given his capture, I think Bran has a real chance of dying soon. Especially with Rickon right behind him as heir and with similar warg powers.

Jon has a very real chance of dying too. That's what I hate about this whole Locke situation. I just don't see the Night's Watch marching heroically into Craster's Keep and taking over the mutineers without casualties. With the current flow of the Wall story, it just feels like something will go wrong.
05-02-2014 , 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
List of characters from the pilot that are now dead:

Spoiler:
Ned
Cat
Robb
Joffrey
King Robert
Sir Rodrick
Vicerys
Khal Drogo
Other Dothraki Dude (2nd in command to Drogo)
Jory
Ros
Maester Lewin
Benji (maybe)
3 random Night's Watch guys from the beginning


Injured:

Spoiler:
Bran (legs)
Jaime (right hand)
Theon (peen, right pinky finger, various other "bits")


The GoT people are cruel indeed. Am I missing anyone?
Mormount
Rob's wife
Rob's wolf
05-02-2014 , 03:26 PM
Yes, 2 of the wolves are dead and one is missing. Mormont and Robb's wife weren't in the pilot.
05-02-2014 , 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
List of characters from the pilot that are now dead:

Spoiler:
Ned
Cat
Robb
Joffrey
King Robert
Sir Rodrick
Vicerys
Khal Drogo
Other Dothraki Dude (2nd in command to Drogo)
Jory
Ros
Maester Lewin
Benji (maybe)
3 random Night's Watch guys from the beginning


Injured:

Spoiler:
Bran (legs)
Jaime (right hand)
Theon (peen, right pinky finger, various other "bits")


The GoT people are cruel indeed. Am I missing anyone?
John Arryn
05-02-2014 , 05:58 PM
Wasn't Jon Arryn already dead when we first met him?
05-02-2014 , 06:19 PM
Yup
05-02-2014 , 07:06 PM
So far, all the deaths have not only tied up loose ends, but have been projected in that they were needed to move the plot forward. I don't think Snow can die anytime soon because a significant chunk of the story would die with him. The Wall and the Night's Watch are obviously big parts of the GoT story, and nobody else can carry it on their backs other than Snow. Remember that Ned was the opposite in that a whole bunch of hinted at developments couldn't spark until he was offed. Bran also doesn't look killable any time soon for the same reason. The idea that Rickon could take over his role is true, but is unlikely to happen soon since if it was, we'd be getting a lot more Rickon airtime. Remember that when Ned died, all the other characters taking his place had been fleshed out well. If Bran dies now, Rickon can't just take over because the audience will be "WTF is this kid?!" If we were getting more screen time with Rickon, where he's hearing the same voice in his dreams as Bran, then Bran could die at any time.

The only death that truly surprised me was Cat, but that was largely because I didn't see how Robb dying (it was obvious he was a goner sooner than later) made Cat virtually pointless

People say GoT can kill anybody at anytime, but that's not true. Deaths have to be developed just like anything else. Only a fraction of the time can deaths be truly surprising or random, but they pretty much always have to be at the end of the story.

Oh also I was surprised by Teh Joff's death. Not that it happened, but that it happened soon and wasn't that satisfying. I picked him to get eaten by a dragon. That's the only death befitting of somebody so horrible as him
05-02-2014 , 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
Bran also doesn't look killable any time soon for the same reason. The idea that Rickon could take over his role is true, but is unlikely to happen soon since if it was, we'd be getting a lot more Rickon airtime. Remember that when Ned died, all the other characters taking his place had been fleshed out well. If Bran dies now, Rickon can't just take over because the audience will be "WTF is this kid?!" If we were getting more screen time with Rickon, where he's hearing the same voice in his dreams as Bran, then Bran could die at any time.
Tommen, though...
05-02-2014 , 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
Wasn't Jon Arryn already dead when we first met him?
Yes. And is also now dead.
05-02-2014 , 07:58 PM
Bran could be developed to carry the wall/night's watch arc
05-02-2014 , 08:50 PM
Without any respect or legs?
05-02-2014 , 08:55 PM
The dude can control direwolfs AFAICT. Legs are for suckers.
05-02-2014 , 09:03 PM
Not indefinitely though. "The visions take their toll."
05-02-2014 , 10:09 PM
It's easier to list the people who are "safe" from immediate death than otherwise.

The only person who's completely untouchable at this point is Dany. Her storyline would completely cease to exist and have been utter pointless if she were to die. It's clear she's gonna be around much, much longer.

I'd also probably put Jon Snow high on the list of "unkillable", they've sank a ton of time into his storyline and if he were to die it'd be like "so what?", he has to have a larger role to play, especially with the whole ambiguous linage angle.

Everybody else in the show I can see how them dying in the near future wouldn't be 100% out of the picture, although clearly some are way more likely than others.
05-02-2014 , 11:01 PM
Too bad there are books cause GOT death pools would be the stonecoldnutz
05-02-2014 , 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 27offsuit
The KansasCT thing isn't happening. It was a joke I guess nbd.
My post about a possible mole got deleted? lol

I think there should be at least one book reader to keep people honest.
05-02-2014 , 11:33 PM
Something I don't quite understand about Jon Snow's lineage. To me and several others, it seems pretty clear that he's not Ned's bastard and honorable Ned didn't cheat on Cat only a few years into their marriage. But if Jon was born of Prince Raegar or King Robert with Ned's sister, he's a very important character.

Now here's the part I don't understand: How could Ned, knowing this, let Jon Snow take the black??
05-02-2014 , 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
I'd also probably put Jon Snow high on the list of "unkillable", they've sank a ton of time into his storyline and if he were to die it'd be like "so what?", he has to have a larger role to play, especially with the whole ambiguous linage angle.
I agree. They haven't even gotten back to us on who is mom is. My guess is it's a noble woman from another big family. The way they kept it mysterious seems like she's somebody important, and not some barmaid or whore.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
Now here's the part I don't understand: How could Ned, knowing this, let Jon Snow take the black??
The word about his mother would have probably been a political liability.

Last edited by Hardball47; 05-02-2014 at 11:45 PM.

      
m