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05-22-2011 , 10:37 PM
2+2 - ReggieFTW
PS - reginatr
FTP - regman88

My partner and I backed him for a short period of time. He was left in a makeup situation which he handled poorly. He behaved inflexibly and unprofessionally. He wasn't motivated to make up our losses and he didn't show a great deal of respect for our money. We offered him extremely reasonable, standard path's to break-even; all of which he denied. This forced us to eat the makeup ourselves. Furthermore, he made us a buyout offer which he revoked upon our acceptance. We're now losing 100% of this makeup.

We wish him the best, however we would not stake him again given the circumstances.
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05-23-2011 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MATT238
So are you against taking preemptive measures to avoid backers getting screwed by guys with his attitude? Zima should wait for this guy to rip someone off for 5k, then it's appropriate to alert people, right?
If by "preemptive measures" you mean trashing someone who has done nothing wrong aside from posting an opinion with which you disagree, then yeah sure i suppose im against that.

Personally, I think this is an over-the-top reaction to some relatively innocuous posts.

If you read The Brickie's posts in that thread, what hes saying is pretty clear in context -- that the primary deterrent to dealing with others on 2p2 dishonestly is ethical, not monetary and that for many (him included) stealing $5K and having his 2p2 rep trashed would result in a net monetary gain.

Personally, I would rather do business with someone opposed to theft on ethical grounds than because the monetary costs outweighed the benefits.
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05-23-2011 , 02:56 AM
I'll stick to dealing with people that are against theft on all grounds. Pointing potential backers to his post isn't anymore harmful than him posting it himself. He put it out there. A potential backer or investor can analyze his words how they see fit.
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05-23-2011 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MATT238
I'll stick to dealing with people that are against theft on all grounds. Pointing potential backers to his post isn't anymore harmful than him posting it himself. He put it out there. A potential backer or investor can analyze his words how they see fit.
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Originally Posted by The Brickie
No, when I was young my parents taught me not to steal.
If you can't get what he was doing then you havn't been on internet forums that long.
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05-23-2011 , 06:21 AM
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I'll stick to dealing with people that are against theft on all grounds. Pointing potential backers to his post isn't anymore harmful than him posting it himself. He put it out there. A potential backer or investor can analyze his words how they see fit.
Again, youre claiming that this guy is for theft, or at least for theft on some grounds, which is flat-out libelous based on the information presented.

im not sure if youre being deliberately obtuse or youre just legitimately too thick enough to get whats being said, but the quoted statements dont support theft, on any level. They acknowledge the simple numerical fact that for some, the financial benefits outweigh the financial costs. Acknowledging this simple numerical fact does not make one pro-stealing on any grounds.

regardless, im done arguing. I dont really care that much...

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05-23-2011 , 06:31 AM
2+2 Username: KidPokerSLO

PS username: KidPokerSLO

scammed me of $11 on PS player transfer. Promised to send me $10 back on Neteller but never replied to me ever since he received the money.
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05-23-2011 , 02:26 PM
Who cares what The Brickie said, who agrees with his point, and who disagrees? I sincerely doubt he will ever look for a stake and if two backers want to miss out on a +EV horse, that is their option to exercise.
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05-23-2011 , 02:43 PM
Name: Daniel Galinis
Address: 2040 freeman Westland, MI 48186

2+2 Username: dant734

PS Username: urasausage

PTP Username: urasausage

FTP Username: imaluckbox

Grievance: Stole $2,898.63

I have been staking Dan on PS since 11/10/10.

On April 15 when Black Friday hit, Dan had $2,898.63 in his account and was $4,101.37 in make up.

Since PS has announced US players can withdraw funds I have not heard anything from Dan, despite my numerous attempts to contact him.
I have communicated to Dan and to all the US players I was staking that I am writing off the make up, so my grievance is just with my funds that were in his account.
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05-24-2011 , 02:39 PM
Fullname (as seen on ID): Przemysław Dajer or Stanislaw Bronislawa

Reason: Stealing $875 USD after staking him. He didn't responded to any text, phone, email and skype

Address as seen on ID:
71-244 Szcecin
Klonowica 11b m.12

Email: przedaj@gmail.com
Pokerstars - Tifuxis
Skype: Tifuxis
FTP - Przemox
Party Poker - Tifuxis
Heypoker - Tifuxisek
Ipoker (Mansion, Titan) Tifuxis, Tifuxi,
Everest Poker - Tifuxis
888 Poker - Tifuxis

Date of Birth:6th of August 1989 in Poland
Plays NLHE 6max 25-50NL


Other details at request
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05-24-2011 , 07:11 PM
Julian Rubina from Australia/Igotshoe on stars was in 800 of makeup on the stake and cashed out 1200 of my money on the stake without asking. Later that day he told me he was quitting the stake and would send back my money. It has been over three weeks and still he hasn't sent back. He now plays on his own probably with my money.


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Originally Posted by PGNX
IGotShoe

thanks

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05-26-2011 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by areyoulocal?
Name: Morrison Jie
2p2 name: gunofa http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/216504/
Full Tilt: gunofa
PokerStars: gunofa

While this person did not steal money he played games he was not staked for on several ocassions (above his buyins, and a few times both above his buyin and a different gametype), he openly tilted stacks deep in MTTs because he was bored, he walked away from games and got blinded out because he didn't want to play any more. He was happy to admit his in public chat, and even announced that he was going to lose on purpose several times before actually doing it. Most recently (still under stake and in makeup) he purposly got himself knocked out with a big stack in the last 20 of a 25k guarantee.

He also constantly berated other members of my stable, and was generally one of the most difficult players I have ever staked overall.

At the end of the stake he was in $2k makeup and told me he was not going to win a penny until he was out of makeup, that he would just keep losing and that he didn't care because it wasn't his money. He purposly gave me no choice but to end his stake. Repeatedly telling me that he didn't care because it wasn't his money and that he wasn't going to win.

Following this he has been constantly sending skype messages to people I stake trying to distract them from games, insulting them etc etc.

I could go on, honestly, this guy is a major handful. I have never once even considered posting bad feedback for anything other than direct theft in over two years, but in this case I have no choice at all. I'll be happy to post chat logs if people want to see them.

In my opinion, Do Not Stake, your money will not be treated with respect at all, and your other players will not thank you.
Just to let you know that this guy is now looking for stakes under a different FT account, Yorgk

http://chipmeup.pokernews.com/player/Yorgk
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05-26-2011 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoulocal?
Just to let you know that this guy is now looking for stakes under a different FT account, Yorgk

http://chipmeup.pokernews.com/player/Yorgk
Just to be clear, I don't believe he is multi-accounting, it looks like his gunofa account at FT has been properly closed, and a new one opened legitimatly. I posted the new username so people know it is him if he comes to 2p2 looking for backing again.
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05-26-2011 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoulocal?
Just to be clear, I don't believe he is multi-accounting, it looks like his gunofa account at FT has been properly closed, and a new one opened legitimatly. I posted the new username so people know it is him if he comes to 2p2 looking for backing again.
Its always been my understanding that this is practically impossible to do. no?
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05-27-2011 , 07:48 AM
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Its always been my understanding that this is practically impossible to do. no?
I also reported him on another forum (chipmeup), and the mods there confirmed they had seen proof that the gunofa account had been closed, and that the Yorgk account was the only one active. The gunofa account does appear to be inactive from April of last year also according to scope. This all refers to Full Tilt of course, gunofa is still the account he uses on Stars.
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05-29-2011 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by areyoulocal?
I also reported him on another forum (chipmeup), and the mods there confirmed they had seen proof that the gunofa account had been closed, and that the Yorgk account was the only one active. The gunofa account does appear to be inactive from April of last year also according to scope. This all refers to Full Tilt of course, gunofa is still the account he uses on Stars.

He's currently trying to sell shares at pokernews.nl for 1,6k

Pokernews (Dutch site)

edit; sold his package
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05-29-2011 , 05:28 PM
got scammed for $370 by user "straightcash" he sent me $400 on RPM, I sent him a $375 greendot card which he claimed didn't work, I then sent him another $395 of moneypak and he ended up using both. Do not trade with this scammer.
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05-30-2011 , 01:00 AM
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got scammed for $370 by user "straightcash" he sent me $400 on RPM, I sent him a $375 greendot card which he claimed didn't work, I then sent him another $395 of moneypak and he ended up using both. Do not trade with this scammer.
Just for the record, this is currently an issue in the RPM player to player transfer thread. It has not been made entirely clear who is at fault here. Both parties are, of course, blaming each other.

-Apparently, straightcash sent Doug_Funnie $400 on RPM. (both parties agree this happened)
-Doug_Funnie was suppose to ship a Greendot Moneypak in the amount of $375, but instead sent a Greendot Visa card number, which was already registered to himself.
stories start to differ here
-Straightcash told Doug_Funnie he would be unable to use the card, and Doug_Funnie allegedly sends a new Moneypak number in the amount of $395.
-Straightcash posted last night that the 2nd alleged Moneypak number was not an actual Moneypak due to it being only 10 digits. (Doug_Funnie says it was 14 digits).
-Straightcash claims Doug_Funnie got him for the initial $400 on RPM, giving him two false codes.
-Doug_Funnie claims Straightcash got him for $370. Two cards/codes totaling $770 - $400 he received on RPM.

Now Doug_Funnie claims the money on his initial Greendot Visa (registered to himself) has been drained. In response, Straightcash challenged him to post a screenshot of the transaction history of said card. AFAIK Doug_Funnie has yet to do so, which IMO is the one piece of concrete evidence that would have this thing sorted once and for all.
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05-30-2011 , 04:52 AM
Do we not have records of PM's/AIM convo's w/e? Surely they'd show the numbers. MP's can be redeemed and if they already have an error message will display stating that they have already been.

Also, thanks for your post, Kidsinister.

EDIT: Chain of events starts at this post, if anyone's interested.

Last edited by Nofx Fan; 05-30-2011 at 05:09 AM. Reason: I also had no idea there was a seperate p2p thread for just a specific site.
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05-30-2011 , 06:13 AM
Two April 2011 accounts doing a $400 transaction, great.

How much does it really matter which one is the scammer? People are putting a lot of time and effort trying to keep scammers away, and then you have nimrods rolling out the red carpet for them. I don't know which is which here, but neither should be allowed to do business on 2+2.
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05-30-2011 , 06:19 AM
Though straightcash's story is a little more sensible.
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06-04-2011 , 07:36 PM
Unfortunately I've got three that I have to post at this point. Here goes...


Graham Rainer

Stars and Merge: Sulfurboy

Address: 1111 Eagle Dr
Apt 21
Denton, TX 76201

Staked player, out of contact for weeks now, except in one email where he writes:

Collin im sorry for blowing you off ive had two deaths within the family and now a wedding it has been nonstop stress the funds are safe in place i actually havent played in almost two weeks im sureyou can check this i expext to be back in town no later than tuesday and ill balence out with you then. Sorry again graham


He never got in touch when he said, despite playing on the account since that point, and also hasn’t replied to my last three emails that I sent as followups.
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06-04-2011 , 07:40 PM
Dustin Gayer

FTP: Dag21
Merge: Railcall21
2+2: Dag21


Address: 22387 Thousand Pines Lane
Boca Raton, FL 33428

Sent $100 reload on BCP to generate HHs to see if we’d reload him after an FTP stake ended in deep makeup. He won the $3R then didn’t send in his next report, and finally sent an email saying:

Hey guys,
I sent you an email on Sunday from my phone, I guess it didn't go through. I went busto w/ the money you sent me. Although I would love to continue with you guys, the mtts on the site that I can play wont ever really get me out of makeup and don't know if I can take it seriously enough and I don't to waste your time or mine. I am truly sorry and really do appreciate everything that you guys have done for me.
Sincerely,
Dustin

Besides the fact that he won the $3R for almost $600 and is clearly lying about busting the account, Sharkscope also shows him playing $55 HU super-turbo SNGs on BCP the day after sending this email. He hasn’t replied to my last several emails and I'm not holding my breath.
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06-04-2011 , 08:00 PM
And lastly...

FTP: Nessyb
Stars: Demystify727

Staked him for a long time, ended with him owing $1565 in money we loaned him (we let him out of the substantial makeup the stake ended in, this is only about the money he asked us to loan him). He insisted he would send this loan money as part of his tax refund, then when the time came he said he spent it paying other money he owed.

So after months and months of an interest-free loan, he won't even send $20 or give any plan for paying the rest back. The last I heard from him was on May 15:

Well, let me save you time and tell you to post now because there is no way that I can financially make that happen. Don't forget to mention all the money I did make. That way I don't look like a complete ass.


All I asked for was any amount of money now and a plan for the rest later, but he refused, so at this point I am simply writing off this money as a bad loan.
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06-10-2011 , 06:11 PM
Name: Kyle Scott
Stars: Kyle Million
FTP: AZBiggun

2p2: Kyle Million (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/116777/)
PTP: Kyle Million (http://forum.parttimepoker.com/membe...e-million.html)

I am able to provide additional information upon request.


I staked Kyle from mid-October until Black Friday. Other than contract negotiations, I never had any problems or disputes with Kyle. Overall he was a great stake to have on board. We communicated on a daily basis, he updated his rail daily, sent back funds in a timely manner, and etc.

The last I heard from Kyle was on April 26th where I informed him to cashout the bankroll and to send me my share of equity on the stake. Since then I have made multiple efforts to contact him through several medias. I have not received a single word from him since April 26th. It appears as if he deleted his Twitter and Blogspot accounts. Both of which he updated on a frequent basis. His facebook page is also very limited (can only see his name and profile pic). I haven't seen him on Skype since April 26th. Again he used this daily.

I have not received a penny of what I am owed from Kyle.
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06-12-2011 , 07:17 AM
FTP name = SNGWizard
PS name = SNGWizard
2+2 name = SNGWizard2
Real Name = Jeremy McCann
Facebook = http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1210610744

Sent him $5,000 to play WSOP events just before BF on PS. Have been trying to get my money back since then and has been saying his money is still stuck on PS but had just deleted me on Skype.


JUNE 15:
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Originally Posted by SNGWizard2
Came across this, the above was settled within hours of his post.
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Originally Posted by Invertible
Indeed, issue sorted

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