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07-22-2010 , 02:44 PM
The below horse was staked for 750 games at $2 180s, after 233 and $111 in profit he has gone missing with no contact at all.Its been well over a week now ,so im pretty sure i've been scammed.Some info on him below....

Contacts: rawb.warneck@gmail.com, robwarneck on skype, and mynameisrawb on AIM

pokerstars: robisonfire
FTP: abrasive_rob
UB: whiskey_binge


2+2 name:robisonfire
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07-22-2010 , 03:21 PM
Name: Travis Klein
Stars: SuperFlyFTW
Skype: travis.klein2

Player had earlier completed a brief stake with us, then found me on Skype on May 18 to ask me to stake him again for mid-stakes 9-man SNGs on Stars. Despite communication being poor during the last stake, I agreed since he was a reputable member of the SNG community and committed to a high volume.

Communication remained quite poor, with the player failing to reply to emails seeking to clarify profit/loss and transfers. On June 9, he sent an email to end the stake, despite being in $2675 of make-up at the time. He wrote: “The stake is pointless ... If I chose not to play for a week or answer emails about poker then thats just how it is.”

The contract the player signed prohibited him from quitting while in makeup, which he fully acknowledged: “I am going to repay the stake of what I owe left, $2,675 by either tomorrow or latest thursday.”

On June 16, he transferred $1300 over Paypal, promising to send the rest soon. Then he fell out of contact again until June 30, when he claimed that he would send the other half “by end of next week.”

We didn’t hear from him until he wrote back on July 9 with the cryptic note:
“should of kept me on a stake man, sorry....”

I checked and he was up well over $5k since ending the stake (it was only a couple of days ago that he blocked his Sharkscope stats), so I asked him to send the remainder of what he owed. He wrote “When I make the money I will send it, so no can’t today.” When I pointed out how much he was up recently, he wrote: “yea went on a sick run, glad i ended the stake and didn't reup again. yea i'll send it over stars soon”

When he still didn’t send the following week, I told him on July 16 that if he didn’t send the money, I would have no choice but to take the situation public.

He wrote back: no i dont have it but when I do i will send it, and bring whatever you want ‘public’ it doesn't bother me in the least bit, actually the threat just annoyed me, probably not your best option Collin. -- Trav

I delayed posting when he sent $250. When I pressed him to send the rest however, he told me it wouldn’t be until he had “got up 100 buyins.” I told him I expected the money by the end of the week or I was planning to post on 2+2, and he wrote back:

Again, I'll send as I get over 100 buyins, that might happen tomorrow It might not. Post whatever you want, it won't bother me in the least at all. I can't take out money without being over 100 buyins, whether that takes me a month, 2 months, 3 months, I don't know how you expect someone to just come up with 3 grand in a month but now you are annoying me and just because you are threatening some "post" I am not sending anything for another week.

As more whatever, "post" threats come, the delay will be a further week for subsequent events.

Travis


Based on the threat of purposefully delaying payment in this last email, I felt I had no choice but to make the post now and advise other backers not to stake this player. I will update this post if/when I receive the remaining $1125 owed.


EDIT(RW) SEE http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=691

Last edited by Rainbow Warrior; 11-17-2010 at 05:56 AM. Reason: update link
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07-22-2010 , 03:47 PM
Wow nothing incites me more then scammers who try to play the victim roll because they decided to roll on a stake/mu and then get angry when you are persistent in getting the money back that they stole.

Travis have a 2p2 name?
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07-22-2010 , 04:52 PM
Yeah if at all, please post 2p2 names along with a link to their 2p2 profile. This will help mods add usernotes and will help our users smile when they click and see "BANNED"

Jerome, that is a running list as far as I know (bc I see Jason is on it), could you add rough dates around when each of those people were added? Feel free to quote it and PM me with dates -- I'll edit your post if you can't.
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07-22-2010 , 05:08 PM
hmm is it possible to create some kind of read only googledoc.

That would allow mods to edit it and put all the names of previous scammers + screen names in a stickied link, but that allows anyone to view? (but obv only mods could edit) to have a neat and tidy scammer list for all to see with ease. just a thought.
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07-22-2010 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
Travis have a 2p2 name?
Afaik he isn't active on 2+2 or any other forums, but if I learn otherwise I will definitely post that information. If anybody would like more information about the player or the situation, feel free to PM me.
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07-22-2010 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
hmm is it possible to create some kind of read only googledoc.

That would allow mods to edit it and put all the names of previous scammers + screen names in a stickied link, but that allows anyone to view? (but obv only mods could edit) to have a neat and tidy scammer list for all to see with ease. just a thought.
The idea is we want to have the names and all the info available through search engines.
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07-22-2010 , 08:48 PM
Scammed for $50 by phonehome11......I believe he is drug wars on PS given his history. Sent giftcard information and never received funds. Does not return PMs.
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07-22-2010 , 08:51 PM
Give the exact screen name(s) you have henne, for later google searches of said scammer
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07-22-2010 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
The idea is we want to have the names and all the info available through search engines.
oh i understand that, i'm not saying get rid of the thread...am just saying having it as an additional tool that people can search (ie updated periodically with new scammers from the thread)
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07-22-2010 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
oh i understand that, i'm not saying get rid of the thread...am just saying having it as an additional tool that people can search (ie updated periodically with new scammers from the thread)
Agree - this would be so key. Soon I will have a website and might try to keep a list of the names on it. In some sense, we are competition, but the crappy people who steal are worse for poker, us, and life in the long run
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07-23-2010 , 09:30 AM
You mean something like the SaS ban list:
http://www.stakeashark.com/userbanned.php
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07-23-2010 , 10:18 AM
ah yes, that was almost exactly what i was thinking... though suspect we could be more thorough with details and sn's. i didn't realise other sites had something similar. Like i said, it was only a suggestion.

Edit* but i suggest we don't label people scammers for downloading porn like some of those at SaS seem to have been... seems a bit harsh.
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07-23-2010 , 11:48 AM
The SaS is a list of all the users they have banned, not all users they think are scammers. The users they claim are scammers usually have screennames listed. But they don't know sns (nor are they relevant) of the guy who posts inline horse porn.
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07-23-2010 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by El helado Patata
I just want to warn everyone not to stake kmoxlee. He will probably scam you.
I've been staking Kevin for several months now, and he's been one of our most reliable players. Communication has been excellent, and he's always transferred the full amount -- even after chopping the $3R for a solid score.

Now to be fair, I don't know the details of his stake with you. However unless there was a very nonstandard staking contract in place, the player is under no obligation to return money if it's the backer who decides not to reload him.
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07-23-2010 , 02:43 PM
1) 2+2 screen name.
rossa1985

2) Poker site name(s).
pokerstars - rossa85

3) AOL IM, emails, city,
AIM - istopplaying,
email - rossa890@hotmail.com
city - Essen, Germany


4) A reasonably brief summary of the problem.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54.../#post20429974
- We send 25k to Timo (rossa85 on pokerstars), a well known heads up reg to play mid stakes HU and table select 6m.
- He loses 20k in a day, violating the 10k daily stop loss and is deemed to owe us an additional 10k when the stake is over.
- He does not table select 6m, loses money there, and ban 6m games.
- Timo degenerately loses $12,000 at heads up PLO in 200 hands, then disappears for several weeks.
- I spread the word of what he did, he contacts me to save face, then disappears for weeks again.

Last edited by Rainbow Warrior; 10-22-2012 at 07:57 PM.
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07-23-2010 , 07:04 PM
is it possible to get someone who scammed me banned on 2+2? He made a new staking thread after he stole my money and I don't think he should be posting here anymore.
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07-24-2010 , 02:25 AM
07-24-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by slicknastyAK
is it possible to get someone who scammed me banned on 2+2? He made a new staking thread after he stole my money and I don't think he should be posting here anymore.
well post his name so no one buys his action???
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07-24-2010 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
well post his name so no one buys his action???
i did, and I have pm'ed 3 mods asking what I need to do to get him banned. I have yet to receive a response, however I am not to surprised because more often than not mods don't answer pm's.
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07-24-2010 , 04:24 PM
You didn't PM me as far as I know

I've removed his marketplace approval and asked him to resolve the situation. We'll see how that goes. He said he sent you your money, that's not true?
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07-24-2010 , 06:50 PM
1) Poker site name(s).
pokerstars - npstar and wizardroyal

2) Name, AOL IM, email:
His real name: Naveen Ponnuswamy
AIM - siktik117
email - npstar87@gmail.com


3) A reasonably brief summary of the problem:
staked for small stakes sngos, agreed to contract, agreed to use bankroll management, used the funds for mtts instead, also let his friend use some of the funds, now he will not answer his e-mail or IM. Do not stake this guy. He scams several people for small amounts, which add up over time.
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07-24-2010 , 07:16 PM
2p2 name please
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07-24-2010 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bren
Heyhey thats MY Package, what's his SN on 2+2 ? I dont want scammers to make good money from my packages and scam others, give me he's SN and i'll returns he's found and remove him from my list, or should i?
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07-25-2010 , 12:39 AM
I'd take away his percentage, hold the stake money, and make sure it's all sorted (IE: he's a scammer), and then perhaps give it to the person he scammed, but maybe let bobo or one of the other mods say whats up
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