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06-02-2010 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbow Warrior
2+2 weren't the only lucky ones sharing Dp's insights yesterday.

His first post, as Khemist of this ptp thread was deleted by a mod but the rest of the thread gets sadly funny.
I don't see how this is Phil. None of the user names for FTP / PS match up for user 'Khemist'. Of course, if you can prove it is Phil, I can prove he has other accounts on both sites and could report him for multi accounting.
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06-02-2010 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by unblemished
I don't see how this is Phil. None of the user names for FTP / PS match up for user 'Khemist'. Of course, if you can prove it is Phil, I can prove he has other accounts on both sites and could report him for multi accounting.
crap...you're right.
Khemist is kneedamage who is the guy phil just had a $500 dispute with in the p2p transfer thread.

I had all these windows open helping sort it out.

my dyslexia
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06-02-2010 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselphil
However, the agreement is unclear, because it doesn't say i couldn't back out.
It doesn't need to say you can't back out, this is implied when it says you will play 2000 games unless backer ends it early. If it was to go to court you would be found in breach of the contract.

Come to some sort of an agreement with your backer or your rep will be forever gone, he has every right to out your full name and other details. You're completely in the wrong here.
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06-02-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Inland Knight
It doesn't need to say you can't back out, this is implied when it says you will play 2000 games unless backer ends it early. If it was to go to court you would be found in breach of the contract.

Come to some sort of an agreement with your backer or your rep will be forever gone, he has every right to out your full name and other details. You're completely in the wrong here.
I agreed to play the 1000 games in make up. I told him i was gonna play a 1000 1 dollar SnGs. He refused, and terminated my contract.

Last edited by Dieselphil; 06-02-2010 at 06:24 PM.
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06-02-2010 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselphil
I agreed to play the 1000 games in make up. I told him i was gonna play a 1000 1 dollar SnGs. He refused, and terminated my contract.
Keep digging!
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06-02-2010 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselphil
I agreed to play the 1000 games in make up. I told him i was gonna play a 1000 1 dollar SnGs. He refused, and terminated my contract.
why not just play 1000 facebook poker games? I guess it wasn't written in contract which site so its perfectly legit
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06-02-2010 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselphil
I agreed to play the 1000 games in make up. I told him i was gonna play a 1000 1 dollar SnGs. He refused, and terminated my contract.
you cant be serious...
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06-02-2010 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Inland Knight
It doesn't need to say you can't back out, this is implied when it says you will play 2000 games unless backer ends it early. If it was to go to court you would be found in breach of the contract.

Come to some sort of an agreement with your backer or your rep will be forever gone, he has every right to out your full name and other details. You're completely in the wrong here.
If this went to court, on what possible grounds does the staker have in suing for damages?

Lesson: Never stake ******ed people, even if they're a winning player, obviously...
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06-02-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
you cant be serious...
He is. I honestly think he would make an effort to pay me back if he actually thought he had done something wrong. Like, if he thought to himself "wow I stole 2.7k" he would make an effort to pay me back. He thinks what he did is standard though, which is an absolute sickening level of stupidity and ignorance.
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06-03-2010 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselphil
I don't care if you say i won't get staked again. But to say i "STOLE" it, is wrong. I didn't steal anything, I have no money in my pocket from your stake. To give "PERSONAL INFORMATION" about me, through this forum is also wrong. Posting my full name on a forum, should not be allowed. I argue once again that i did not steal anything. I lost 2.7k and i gave you back the rest. Stealing is not what i did. I agree that i backed out of the agreement, regarding the 2000 games. However, the agreement is unclear, because it doesn't say i couldn't back out. In addition, i played a total of 997 games not 600, that you claimed i played. I agree that you are posting, to warn other backers not to back me, but to put MY FULL NAME, and to call me a THIEF, is wrong and derailing. I also told you i would play the other 1000 games, but you told me not to play anymore, cause I said that i would play a 1000 1 dollar sngs, which isn't against the terms of agreement. Because im staked for 109 dollar and below Regular speed Sngs. 1.20 dollar sngs fits this criteria, and you wouldn't let me play it.
Well, full name is really the only way to inform other stakers not to stake you. Otherwise you can just create new accounts. Harder to create a new name.

BTW, it doesn't sound like he "stole" money, assuming he played within the parameters of the agreement, etc., but he definitely broke the agreement and has acted kind of stupid about the whole incident.
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06-04-2010 , 10:46 AM
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BTW, it doesn't sound like he "stole" money, assuming he played within the parameters of the agreement, etc., but he definitely broke the agreement and has acted kind of stupid about the whole incident.
OST I completely disagree. Was explaining to a fellow non-marketplace mod as to why this is basically stealing, here's part:

The backer in turn theoretically gets screwed out of whatever the EV of the remaining 1,400 stakes had. He rode out the downswing faithfully at a considerable personal cost and is entitled to whatever comes on the upswing if there is one, or at least reducing his losses via makeup, but he's been robbed of that.

The stakee here just decided--less than 1/3 of the way through the stake-- that he would not honor the difficult side of the agreement. This is something unblem paid for and is entitled to under the stake terms. The makeup function of staking agreements is intended to marginalize downswings like this for the backer whose funds are invested; the stakee isn't supposed to make money when the stake is in the red, and anything won in that phase is applied to the stake bankroll.

However Deisel feels that instead of playing through, he'll just leave unblem on the hook for his losses and keep future any profits for himself, profits which unblem is entitled to. Those profits over what would have been the remainder of the stake should be going toward the $2.7k in makeup first, and beyond that the backer would get his split. This is the problem.
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06-04-2010 , 11:17 AM
That's an excellent post Gonso.

Last edited by Bren; 06-04-2010 at 11:18 AM. Reason: and wtf is Dak?????
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06-04-2010 , 07:05 PM
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OST I completely disagree. Was explaining to a fellow non-marketplace mod as to why this is basically stealing, here's part:

The backer in turn theoretically gets screwed out of whatever the EV of the remaining 1,400 stakes had. He rode out the downswing faithfully at a considerable personal cost and is entitled to whatever comes on the upswing if there is one, or at least reducing his losses via makeup, but he's been robbed of that.

The stakee here just decided--less than 1/3 of the way through the stake-- that he would not honor the difficult side of the agreement. This is something unblem paid for and is entitled to under the stake terms. The makeup function of staking agreements is intended to marginalize downswings like this for the backer whose funds are invested; the stakee isn't supposed to make money when the stake is in the red, and anything won in that phase is applied to the stake bankroll.

However Deisel feels that instead of playing through, he'll just leave unblem on the hook for his losses and keep future any profits for himself, profits which unblem is entitled to. Those profits over what would have been the remainder of the stake should be going toward the $2.7k in makeup first, and beyond that the backer would get his split. This is the problem.
This is a good point. I've never really felt that this was "stealing" though. However, it's usually that people decide to quit poker when they're on long downswings, and they will not be playing any more poker. This stakee clearly intends to play again, AND find a new backer, so I definitely see why it would be stealing.
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06-04-2010 , 08:08 PM
This guy: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/226395/

rolled me on PTP

http://forum.parttimepoker.com/staki...msmith-pf.html

took a stake and vanished

his poker screen names are

PokerStars name:
THR33

FullTilt name:
THR72
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06-04-2010 , 11:59 PM
Senjitsu aka jason covener scammed me and others in a WSOP vegas house for $10k+.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10.../#post19382685
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06-06-2010 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2454

member name mboyle4999
username on UB: mikeboyle420

me and supernova_elite took a 50 game SNG package for $110 each, he contacted us everday when he was playing, on payday we have no heard from him since. He still regularly plays on UB about this time in the $5sng 6max. Been over 2weeks.

Me or Supernova_elite do not have a UB account which has done a despoit before so we can't chat to him. If anybody does have one, could they join one of his tables when he is on and ask him.


I do have his full name, address, and phone number. I am from the UK so I can't phone it.
Banned.

user logged in without reading the PM or responding - also tried to circumvent the process by creating another 2p2 account
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06-06-2010 , 03:37 PM
Just as further clarification to gangip's points, he is 100% accurate on our dealing with dieselphil.
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06-08-2010 , 02:35 PM
thanks gt pitch
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2454

member name mboyle4999
username on UB: mikeboyle420

me and supernova_elite took a 50 game SNG package for $110 each, he contacted us everday when he was playing, on payday we have no heard from him since. He still regularly plays on UB about this time in the $5sng 6max. Been over 2weeks.

Me or Supernova_elite do not have a UB account which has done a despoit before so we can't chat to him. If anybody does have one, could they join one of his tables when he is on and ask him.


I do have his full name, address, and phone number. I am from the UK so I can't phone it.
bumping this again hoping someone who has a a UB/AP account can speak to him on my behalf when he is playing.
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06-08-2010 , 07:25 PM
Kuroshi555 on 2p2
Kuroshi on FTP
Kuroshi555 on skype

Started a stake with him for $3 90mans with access to coaching and potential to moveup. He ran well the first few days and won about $220 at the tables, then emailed me saying hes quitting because he doesnt like grinding 90mans and he cant stand turbos. So he sent back the appropriate money, that wasnt a problem. What was weird about it was he kept grinding those games that same day even tho he said he cant stand them. Just wanted to put this out there for reference for any dealings with him.
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06-09-2010 , 01:55 AM
got scammed for $60 by someone claiming to be jogden139. had that sn on aol. my fault for falling for it. he didnt message me on just 2+2, just a aol message. didnt think to much of it, just being careless since it was only $60. o well live and learn. i guess i have no real recourse here?
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06-09-2010 , 02:00 AM
What site? What username (jogden139)?
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06-09-2010 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
What site? What username (jogden139)?
jogden139 was his AIM sn.
yahoo email: donteakabigdaddy@yahoo.com
paypal name : donte streeter
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06-09-2010 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jgarrett32
got scammed for $60 by someone claiming to be jogden139. had that sn on aol. my fault for falling for it. he didnt message me on just 2+2, just a aol message. didnt think to much of it, just being careless since it was only $60. o well live and learn. i guess i have no real recourse here?
Probably the same guy (who also initiated the trade thru AIM first):
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=73225

Do ur searches b4 trading and always get a PM first to verify the 2p2 acc.
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06-09-2010 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jgarrett32
jogden139 was his AIM sn.
yahoo email: donteakabigdaddy@yahoo.com
paypal name : donte streeter
can't you just tell paypal to cancel the payment to him?
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06-09-2010 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
can't you just tell paypal to cancel the payment to him?
i filed a dispute. so we will see
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