i have played tight (if they notice) opponent is pretty standard not tricky.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t3045)
CO (t8130)
Hero (t15097)
SB (t7760)
BB (t2460)
UTG (t4956)
UTG+1 (t7050)
MP1 (t14435)
MP2 (t7573)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t400, 4 folds, Hero raises to t1800, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t1400.

Flop: (t3900) Q, 8, 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t2000,

Std C-bet...

if my read is that opponent is a straightforward player, i don't reraise pf with KTo.

that said, cbet is standard.

Without a read that UTG+1 minraises speculative hands (sm PPs; SCs; Axs; etc...this is pretty bad IMO. I don't mind this move if UTG+1 is the type to minraise a sm pair from EP (i've seen quite a bit of this recently - the "blocking minraise" from EP executed with the intent of preempting a larger raise if they limped.) These players are oblivious to implied odds and will almost always call any RR, then c/f flop unless they hit a set. So theorectically this play should work about 7 out of 8 times with ATC (other variables make the % slightly less.) I don't mind this play against a std, straightforward opponent either...b/c he's folding pre most of the time. That said, I would never make this move w KTo. JTs has so much more value here, i'd rather have 23s than KTo. Your range for doing this should be your big hands and some SC's, maybe some med pairs. The prob with making this move (with a trap hand) is you'll never know where you're at when your called, and proceeding past the flop is going to be a huge spew. I also like this play better from one of the blinds and when there are antes.

Please post more.

Barry

i reraised the wrong type of hand thats exactly the response i expected. the mini raise i saw as weak. i bet the flop bc ive represented a strong strong hand he mucked but i disagree that reraising is a bad play against an ordinary player making a min raise.often hell muck. if he repops im done. if im called i c-bet and win a goood %.

So...u obv make this play with ATC then right? Did you look at your cards?...or just repopp...c-bet...nh...check HH...KTo...interesting.

I actually like this play, and i think it is something to do with ATC, just not too often. I also only like it if you are in LP or blinds as you dont want to risk someone picking up a hand after you.

Min-bet in EP 95% of the time means "Please let me see a flop". Which in turn means, if I don't hit the flop, I'm folding.

With this play, although it sounds counter-intuitive, I actually want a call, because I am always always betting the flop (unless it comes something like A,K, J) Most flops miss most hands, so since we know that the guy is only going to continue if he hits, we win the extra chips he puts in as well most of the time.

I actually disgaree that this is a pair, pairs don't really need to see flops, they are made already, although I'm open to convincing. Most of the time this is two high cards which are too good to fold, and which need a flop to continue.

That said, its a risky play. So I like to see the guy do a min-raise in EP before, (without a monster) and I also wont do it if I've got a crappy table image.

Finally, people sometime min-raise UTG/UTG+1 with AK, although its not really weak, its still a "I want to see a flop" kind of bet. The risk is that he then pushes over your raise, and then you have to fold (unless you have a pair) If he flat calls, you can often push him off it on the flop.

Let me 1st preface this by stating that this critique is not personal. You seem like a nice guy/girl, and i believe that you sincerely want to contribute to this forum.

The problem with your posts is that they provide analysis that can only be construed as "misinformation." It's clear that you are only slightly better than a novice player and the content of your posts reflects a lack of understanding as it relates to fundamental poker theories and concepts.

Your posts consistently overlook key variables such as:

1. Absolute vs Relative hand strength.
2. The ratio between pot equity and pot odds.
3. "Reads", or observations of player's tendencies.

We're all here to learn and improve our poker knowledge and ultimately our ROI. For the benefit of the readers that may not realize that the analysis and advice that you provide is less than stellar, i would like to suggest the following:

1. Read more (esp the high-stakes MTT forum.)
2. Post less.
3. Play more, get more experience and ask for advice on hands that you have played.

I like it. At small stakes it's rarely AA KK making that min-raise. Punishing limpers and weak bets can only be rewarded in the long run. This is exactly what he's done. Punish a min-raise with the button (although I think your pfr bet is too much and the same can be accomplished most times for less). It's bascially a similar theory to a re-steal. The min-raise you know is a weak raise, just as a blind steal is.

The type of player you want to make this move against is one that's something like 35/5/1, that limps way too often. And I don't do this against the table bully, or if I'm the table maniac.

Nice flop for a c-bet. And I like it personally...

And I think I like it better with KTo than ace rag.

This seems a little unreasonable, since you don't actually critique any specifics about my advice.

In fact, the amount of effort you put into this post leads me to believe that

a) you have too much time on your hands
b) you are just upset that I laughed at your last post in another thread where you edited it an hour later to add a poor comeback that you didn't think of the first time around.

I'll answer more on the specifics of the JJ hand in that thread, but here I'll stand by my advice in this thread.

Firstly, I have to admit this is a pretty LAG play, but I think based on the way lots of people play online it is +EV if not overused.

Go back over your HHs and see how many UTG/UTG+1 min raises are two broadways. This is a very common move by hundreds of low/medium stakes tourney players, who just want to see a flop. Sure, you can just play ABC poker, and fold K10, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you spot an exploitable common mistake, there's nothing wrong with trying to take advantage of it. And the play by the OP will do that.

You've got someone saying, "I'm weak, I want to see a flop and if I don't improve I'll fold" alot of the time. They will often be willing to put chips into the pot and then give them up easy because you showed strength Pre-flop.

Are you only re-raising with JJ+/AK? If so fine, but not everyone plays the same style.


Finally, it is incredibly unconstructive to just criticise someone's posts overall. If you disagree with a specific post, say so. Say why, and so so politely and constructively.

Since your posts to me so far have consisted of this post and something which went LOL LOL LOL your a rubbish player LOL, I'm afraid I'm not going to take you particulalry seriously.

erc007,

If you believe this play is good with a specific read against a particular player, you really shouldn't then say KTo is not the right kind of hand to do it with. You're not making this play to outflop your opponent. Accepting what you say, you need to make this play when the opportunity presents itself. I would almost argue KTo is a BETTER hand to do this, because it removes 3KK, and 4AK from his range, which are big hands that might be looking for action / unwilling to give up on the flop.


I'm don't like the preflop overraise / flop near underbet.
Re-raise to 1200, then you can c-bet the same amount and it looks stronger, and you'll risk fewer chips overall.

Personally, i hate it, unless the utg+1 is a minraiser/folder.

I tend not to make moves on utg or utg+1 almost any time. If they are not ******ed, they prolly have something.

Also, with the stack sizes, you are pretty much betting 4k (1800pf+2k on flop) with kto, and the minraiser only has 7k.

If he was a lag on the co, and you had been folding a lot recently, then i dont dislike it as much.

Playing good solid poker>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>>>&gt ;>>>>>>>>>>>>r eraising utg+1 raisers with crud, and forcing yourself to bet half their stacks.

I tend to lean towards thinking minraisers utg and utg+1 tend to be monsters (unless they are doing it regularly and often). It keeps me out of trouble. Last night, me with 33 in bb, three callers, one minraise, we all call. Flop K73, two clubs, I treble up on flop vs AA and a fd. ******ed, truly ******ed play by the bullets.

Even bullies tend to tighten up when in ep!