PF: Your failure to 4 bet PF eliminates BPP or AK. Maybe SPP or 2 Broadway cards.

Flop: This is just silly, stoopid stew pit, however you want to spell it. Maybe SB misclicked and bet 540 into a nearly 5K pot. I have no idea what his underbet is supposed to represent or accomplish. What the Hell was our bet supposed to accomplish or "represent"? I can't image betting like we did if we had 2 hearts or an 8. It feels like we have one Broadway heart.

Turn: Well, kiss the 8 goodbye. We're representing a SPP that can't count and has no idea that there are flush and str8 out the wazoo or Broadway cards w/1 heart

River: The Board pair and NOW we spring into action? No sale. No sane person would believe we flopped or turned a Set on this board and checked the Turn.

Having read the rest of the thread I tried coming up with a hand that your hand makes any sense at all to be raising the river for value with and I came up with 75s, T7s, A7s. I can't see you ever having any other hand that can be raising for value on this river as getting to the river this way with any hand better than those would be terrible. Then again getting to the river this way with any hand at all is pretty bad but I would weight your range heavily towards missed hearts and would definitely consider calling your raise with AK if I'd played it the way SB did (again, not that I would ever take his line with any hand).

Preflop and turn are fine for your actual hand but the flop raise is awful. If you're going to raise the flop make it a real raise, not one giving him 7-1 to call. As played if you wanted to continue the bluff betting the turn would have been ok as people freeze on 4 straight boards but checking is fine if you're giving up on the bluff. Having checked the turn raising the river is terrible. When he leads he either has complete air or a hand he's calling a raise with, there isn't really any in between. A decent A-high has showdown value here so he has no reason to bluff with it. This means for him to have complete air on the river he has to be reraising you light preflop and I don't give a random credit for reraising light until I've actually seen him do it because 99% of villains don't do it.

Cliff notes: Your line makes no sense with any hand at all but if I had to put you on any hand at all it would be missed hearts and if you want to carry on the bluff bet the turn, don't raise the river.

Here's the line I mentioned that I like better, as applied to this situation, see what you think of this. I would be interested to hear crtique of it as well for my own education (partial thread hijack )...

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with XX:
4 folds, Hero raises to t720, 1 fold, SB raises to t2200, 1 fold, Hero calls t1480

Flop: (t4840) 7 9 6
SB bets t540, Hero calls (instead of raising to t1680)

Turn: (t8200) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 1200 (instead of checking), SB calls.

River: (t8200) 7
SB bets t5760, Hero folds (instead of raising to 14400)


Remember, he reraised you preflop. So he probably does NOT have a drawing hand on this board. But you, being a loose raiser, may well have one, or a weak made hand. Play into that fear.

Note that calling the flop and betting the turn as shown above costs you the same number of chips as raising the flop, while I think having more chance of success.

Played this way, there are many scare cards for a hand like Q Q at the turn...

- Any 5 (4 cards)
- Any 8 (4 cards)
- Any 9 (3 cards)
- Any 10 (3 cards, since you have JTs)
- Any ace (4 cards)
- Any remaining hearts (2h, 3h, 4h, 6h, Jh, Qh, Kh)

That is a total of 25 cards!

So... the bad news is your JTs is full of crap. But the good news is that having such a bad hand leaves more scare cards live.


If you bet 1200 at the turn on one of those cards and he STILL calls, then I think it's time to give up to serious river action (unless you hit your straight, of course).

But if he CHECKS to you at the river, then you could fire another bullet, especially if the board has become even more scary, as it likely will (you get another shot at 25 scare cards).

For example, with a board of 7 9 6 T A it would be a very tough call with Q Q against an opponent who represented a drawing hand on the flop.

I would bet something like 2/3 the pot, both to reduce my risk when I run into an overpair that also had a heart in it, and also to sell it as a value bet that wants to get paid off.


Played this way, it also puts you in a better position if you spike a J on the turn. Now you may have the best hand. You can then check behind to keep the pot small. At the river you may be able to pick off a weak bluff, or at least not pay off so much vs a QQ value bet.

Whiffed overs imo

Horribly played AK or A7

ok, i didn't read everyone's comments BUT here's my thoughts:

1) Villian 3bet u here FROM THE SB. I would immediately narrow his range to JJ+, AQ+.

2) Your line doesn't CLEARLY smell like anything to me. This is the key point as I'm guessing you're bluffing with the intention of winning the pot uncontested.

Most villians in low buy in MTTs are looking you up on the river with the majority of their 3bet range here. It doesn't matter what hand you're representing, sometimes the villian is just not going to fold. After seeing villian raise and check/fold in previous orbits I would guess his frustration is mounting.

When i'm running over the table with ease, it get's addictive. I forget that people are going to wake up with hands and hold on to them no matter what i represent.

In your case, i think overaggression got the best of you.

Pick a better spot. You don't have to win them all.

Good luck

It seems like 66, 77, or 99 to me.

um..not in this day and age

FPS

Have you got any reason to believe he is folding an overpair here? I cant really see any reason to run a multi-street bluff against an unknown, when we have no real read (5 hands?) and he is the only stack within 50% of yours, and you have been running over the table.

if u dont try and bluff ppl off overpairs repping sets ud make a lot more monies..

also your flopraisesize doesnt mean set, it means inforaise/cheapstealraise when the board is that cluttered