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what to do with 88 here? what to do with 88 here?

09-14-2011 , 02:08 AM
$3.50 stars 6max turbo

blinds 100/200
ante 25

sb 2090
bb(hero)1830
btn 4705

btn raise to 500, sb fold, bb?
what to do with 88 here? Quote
09-14-2011 , 02:52 AM
shove
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09-14-2011 , 03:46 AM
blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no stats or reads?
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09-14-2011 , 04:10 AM
How can this not be the easiest ship since they invented shipping against anyone but Nitty McNitt?
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09-14-2011 , 04:17 AM
ooops, misread stacksizes... easy shove.
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09-14-2011 , 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
How can this not be the easiest ship since they invented shipping against anyone but Nitty McNitt?
QUESTION :
At this stage of the tournament we need 60% equity to flip right and maybe less due to we have small stack?
Lets assume that the btn raiser is a bad player who doesn't know anything about ICM and he loves his KQo and he opens about 15-25%.
We know that HE DOESNT MIND flipping. So, in reality we are making the decision if we are going to flip or not.
By shoving we are flipping against his range.
88 against 20% range have <60% eq ( about 52%).
So i wonder against a random BAD player is this profitable / the most +ev move?? I know we have limited choices here but folding is too bad.
I face this situation a lot of times at 3$ sng with bad players and i try to find a good strategy about that.
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09-14-2011 , 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onar21
QUESTION :
At this stage of the tournament we need 60% equity to flip right and maybe less due to we have small stack?
Lets assume that the btn raiser is a bad player who doesn't know anything about ICM and he loves his KQo and he opens about 15-25%.
We know that HE DOESNT MIND flipping. So, in reality we are making the decision if we are going to flip or not.
By shoving we are flipping against his range.
88 against 20% range have <60% eq ( about 52%).
So i wonder against a random BAD player is this profitable / the most +ev move?? I know we have limited choices here but folding is too bad.
I face this situation a lot of times at 3$ sng with bad players and i try to find a good strategy about that.
If btn is opening 15-25% here, you've found mr mcnitt and its a clear fold.
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09-18-2011 , 05:19 PM
Lets assume

Your Equity for pushing

Take in count your hand , 88 ( wich is pretty good in this situation ) , and now ( you didnt gave much details about the villain ) just try tzo put him in a hand range.

Your equity should be around 26.x and his equity is 45.x ( around that)
If you win your equity will be 40.x ( +14) , If you lose you are out, and if he folds your equity is around 29.x

So i would say, ( assumind we will raise at least 35% of his hands ( wich is probably less then we will ), you are in a very good position to shove

Last edited by Unknown90; 09-18-2011 at 05:35 PM.
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09-18-2011 , 06:16 PM
Shove. or call and ship it on the flop no matter whats out there.
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