Ok so this is in first few hands of the finaltable

Hero has had chip leader on my right ever since final
27 has been big leader and has seemed to apply pressure well and raise a lot but recently with 12 left so 6 handed flatted a cut off raise in sb, I shove 12bbs from bb with 1010 , folded to him he called qj off and I held.


Anyway rounded stack sizes for this hand 3 hands in to final


Utg 220,000
Utg+1 250,000
Utg+2 272,000
Mp 101,000
HJ(villain) 1,132,000
CO (hero) 492,000
BU 192,000
SB. 81,000
BB. 310,500


So hero ahead of anyone else bar villain here by some distance


Blinds 10,000/20,000 ante 2,000

Payouts approx.

1st 630.00
2nd 475.00
3rd 330.00
4th 240.00
5th 175.00
6th 140.00
7th 100.00
8th 75.00
9th 42.00


Ok so folds to high jack who opens to 40k , minraise, hero flats co with QQ spade and heart , everyone else folds


Flop 7c9h2s
Pot 128k
Villain insta bets 68k like insta insta

Thoughts on pre flop and now appreciated and then we'll go from there

I never fold here unless villain is really good or tight.

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Villain seemed ok but as I say flatting sb on ft bubble seemed
Pretty unaware and began to think all his pressure
Was maybe him getting good hands ,
Should I be shoving pre with 25bbs ? Seems pretty suicidal but if he's
Good he should call tight? As played how should I react on flop

I think you are in a mindset of, "I lost with QQ here, wtf is wrong with me?" Instead it should be, "In the long run I will make money in this spot." Pushing pre is ok, but I would rather play the hand like you did avoiding terrible flops and disguising your hand. Guy either had 77, 99 or AA/KK. If his stats weren't 10/9 then I think your play is fine. Others can disagree as I'm sure they will.

im a little confused to be honest. we have 25bbs and have QQ.. we essentially have the nuts(not really but this is the way we should see QQ here) So I'm either 3betting and getting it in pre(but i wouldn't shove unless villain is crazy call happy) or flatting and getting it in on this board for sure.. like i would high five the my cat and 3bet the flop!

Not at all what happened wouldn't just post some bad beat yawn feat just generally confused , trying to get the money in here seems awful when two stacks under
5
Bigs no ?

Keep calling. No point to raise now. Pre is debatable and can create some interesting spots if someone shoves and OR flats or piles.

I think you played way too passively with QQ. This is not a shove situation unless you think that villain would call. You have to also see that he has you a bit more that 2:1 in chip stack so I think his min raise range is probably wide enough. This is a perfect hand to 3 bet him and a perfect flop to CB.

And if villain shoves over our 3!. Do we just take our ICM-****up like a man or what?

You would have just flatted in this position?

Probably not, but shoving has to be better than 3-betting an non all-in amount when you look the stacks at the table. It depends a lot how villain is playing and what kind if players are still active behind us.

All-in a def a play that I would consider, but I see nothing wrong with 3 betting here. Sure it's easy to say after I've seen the flop, but if he 4 bets then we can at least lay it down if we wanted. I'm really considering the size of his chip stack and the range he would play with the chip stacks behind him.

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Blinds 10,000/20,000 ante 2,000



Ok so folds to high jack who opens to 40k , minraise, hero flats co with QQ spade and heart , everyone else folds


Flop 7c9h2s
Pot 128k
Villain insta bets 68k like insta insta

Thoughts on pre flop and now appreciated and then we'll go from there[/QUOTE]




Ok so I call pot size now 264k turn is 9c bringing flush draw villain insta bets 168k, Hero ?

Well if you shove you're getting some fold equity not sure the percentage, but it can't be that high. I wouldn't be afraid of the backdoor FD though. If you thought you were good on the flop then you must think you're good here, unless you put him on a 9x, AA or KK at which point this is an easy fold. I wouldn't be too afraid of the set as he would probably try and trap you with that hand.

I doubt 3b/c is a big mistake if at all

If villain is good though he could try put pressure on with ak with vs flush draw , if I call turn I have invested half my stack and will be in gross spot on river so feels like I have to make decision now ?

I ended up folding turn , am sure he would bet 1010-aa here half of which beats me an half doesn't and I didn't want to risk my stack , can find a better spot by folding and staying second in chips , I am sure I played the hand far from perfect though , shovin pre and praying seems better