Ok, 20 left in $10 tourney. My play of the hand may seem completely ******ed but I went with my read which I feel was vindicated with the villains eventual hand in question.
But my question is do you think the villain was correct to call my river shove?



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Hero (BB): t13442
UTG: t3410
MP: t6956
CO: t13028
BTN: t15937
SB: t25793

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is BB with 9 7
2 folds, CO raises to t1500, 2 folds, Hero calls t1000

Flop: (t3550) J T 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (t3550) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t2000, Hero raises to t6500, CO calls t4500

River: (t16550) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t5392 all in, CO requests TIME, CO calls t4978 all in

Final Pot: t26506
Hero shows 9 7 (a pair of Nines)
CO shows Q 9 (a pair of Nines)
CO wins t26506

Fold pre then you wouldnt be in this spot esp with 20-30bbs if you had like 50bbs i could see you defend your blind

I think the villian was gettin like 4 to 1 but maybe he can read souls

This is a prime example of a small mistake preflop causing Hero to essentially lose his entire stack.

I think the most important thing is not worrying about postflop play, however good/bad it is, but the fact that you called OOP preflop with a marginal hand that will almost never flop good enough for you to want to play it through till the end. Of course there are certain situations in which you would do it against certain people etc but that's another topic altogether. However, in this situation it looked like you called not to take the pot away, but you were basically playing your hand.

Are you wanting assurance that you made a good play/read and villain shouldn't have called the river? Who cares about the villain?

Fix your leaks first.

Try to avoid weasel words. What situations? Perhaps situations where stacks are much deeper, for instance? You should be able to mention these situations in passing without too much additional trouble.

Also, welcome to the board. You make more sense than I did at first, certainly.

*face palm*

Your betsizing sucks- CRAI turn if you want villain to fold.

3bet pre flop or fold imo.
OOP defending with 97ss is just gonna be tough to play with those stacks.
As played, check-shove the turn.

This is exactly what I am looking for. I care about the villain.

That quote is quite ******ed. When executing a pure bluff which my hand was, the success of the play entirely rests on the villain. Also my question was raised at how the villain played the hand, I wasn't too interested in my play to be honest. Although maybe I should.

even if my read on villian is the biggest chip spewer ever i fold this. ph is right, you have garbage OOP and if you folded, you wouldnt have gotten stacked

Villain stacked you and owned your soul-so kudos to villain.

Hoping people fold getting more than 4-1 on the river is a bad, bad plan. And I wouldn't call his call a hero call because of that.

Before calling someones post ******ed it might be worth considering a few things.

Firstly you should always be more interested in your own play than villains. if villain sucks that is good yes? Asking whether villain sucks or not which is what you are asking reflects directly upon hero's play. Now to the actual hand, preflop has been covered if I am going to defend my blind against a CO raise I prefer to do it with a raise than with a call this gives hero the initiative gives hero the opportunity to represent a bigger hand on the flop if flatted and gets villain on the back foot. However I am not defending here because my hand is marginal, deeper and in position I may flat but w/e also I am not 3bet folding with effective stacks of 26bb's.

Flop yeah obv check fold if he bets. On the turn you are check raising but that leaves nothing behind for a river bullet, you do not have the odds to hit your flush when he bets 2k into 3.5k unless you stack him when the flush hits which isn't always guaranteed especially if he is betting diamonds and he whiffs river. Yes the villain should fold the turn now you know his hand but you have no idea of his hand on the river and as you are pricing yourself to call if he shoves you are turning a marginally -ev spot into a huge one.

As for the river you now have a pair yet turn it into a bluff when giving villain better than 4/1 don't ever expect anyone to fold a pair at these levels when getting that prices especially when two flushes have missed and he has no reason to believe you have a 10 or J after checking to him twice.

You are not representing anything on the river and it probably wouldn't matter if you where when the pot is 40BB when it gets to him and he has <10BB's behind.

Fold preflop.

Flop is fine.

Check calling turn would be better than c/r'ing it with 1 card to come...folding is not out of the question either.

Although Villains call on the River is thin, you did offer him over 4:1 on a call with the line you took- avoid this when bluffing.