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06-08-2015 , 06:14 PM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,977

IPoker, $4.55 Buy-in (60/120 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 8,237 (68.6 bb)
BB: 6,260 (52.2 bb)
UTG+2: 3,020 (25.2 bb)
MP1: 7,268 (60.6 bb)
MP2: 5,201 (43.3 bb)
MP3: 8,258 (68.8 bb)
CO: 8,800 (73.3 bb)
BTN: 8,268 (68.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

UTG+2 raises to 240, MP1 calls 240, 4 folds, Hero calls 180, BB calls 120

Flop: (960) T

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets 490, Hero calls 490, 2 folds

Turn: (1,940) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets 720, Hero calls 720

River: (3,380) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets 2,366,

5 euro rebuy - during rebuy period - V tightish 12/7 over 74 hands agg factor 3

I'm often raising the flop heads-up but called as a raise looks too strong with 2 players behind. Ott clearly a call but not sure of the river action - V's range is prob AT JJ, club draws, 44 22 ( +1 combo of 88!)- rarely bluffs from this V, so as there is only one T out there - strongly weighted towards flushes and worse boats - do we c/r or are we risking flushes checking behind. Or should we lead bigger?

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06-08-2015 , 06:56 PM

kobeizdabest

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 140

If he has a flush, I don't think he is checking behind very often. Check-raising will be perfect with just over a 6k stack left, assuming he makes in ~2k. I find it hard to believe that many opponents at this stake will fold a flush here. However, if he has a ten only, you do get more value by leading because they will probably check back these hands. Since villain would be capable of just calling with the flush and not raising the river, I think that going for max value and check raising the river is best(as played).

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06-08-2015 , 08:11 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 6,102

I'd prefer to just donk flop for a chunky sizing. I don't like c/c because our hand is just way too susceptible to straights and flushes multi-way, and I'm also not too keen on c/r because I agree that line looks very strong. So donk flop, donk turn, bomb river.

As played, I think you miss value by not getting more money in otf. ott, we miss a huge amount of value when he checks back (which is going to happen pretty often on this card).

I like the river sizing as played.

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06-09-2015 , 02:40 AM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,977

Yeah, thanks donking would have been a good plan - i don't consider this line enough.

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06-09-2015 , 07:07 PM

kobeizdabest

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 140

What checks this river back though that we can get value from? There is only one ten left in the deck so not many combos of that and mid pocket pairs. Any flush or 8 will bet this river and we can get way more value with a check raise with this. Also, if villain was just barreling on a flush draw, we let him fire again. I think as played, going for a check raise is better.

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06-09-2015 , 08:34 PM

Viral25

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,857

I hate leading this flop considering how hard we hit it. x/c is fine, let them bluff.

River is a clear c/r for reasons mentioned by the poster above.

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06-09-2015 , 09:13 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by Viral25

I hate leading this flop considering how hard we hit it. x/c is fine, let them bluff.

how do we hit this flop hard?

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