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Two similar hands versus winners Two similar hands versus winners

10-21-2009 , 08:27 PM
I feel these are very similar spots. Was wondering how each of you would play these two hands.

Hand 1: Solid winner with 75% FCB. I don't have any sizing tells.

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UTG+2: t8528 M = 12.63
MP1: t3415 M = 5.06
MP2: t5201 M = 7.71
CO: t13065 M = 19.36
Hero (BTN): t10015 M = 14.84
SB: t11488 M = 17.02
BB: t10992 M = 16.28
UTG: t10967 M = 16.25
UTG+1: t9966 M = 14.76

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is BTN with J A
5 folds, CO raises to t900, Hero calls t900, 2 folds

Flop: (t2475) 6 9 4 (2 players)
CO bets t1100, Hero raises to t9090 all in


Hand 2: This guy is another solid winner. His CB in my 400 hand sample of him is 100%.

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MP1: t35325 M = 23.55
MP2: t8880 M = 5.92
CO: t13225 M = 8.82
Hero (BTN): t18479 M = 12.32
SB: t22650 M = 15.10
BB: t19632 M = 13.09
UTG: t14395 M = 9.60
UTG+1: t24288 M = 16.19

Pre Flop: (t1500) Hero is BTN with A Q
2 folds, MP1 raises to t1560, 2 folds, Hero calls t1560, 2 folds

Flop: (t4620) 4 7 T (2 players)
MP1 bets t2700, Hero raises to t12000, MP1 folds

I think my raise size is pretty bad because it cuts down the uppermost portion of my range (the sets) but I didn't want him thinking he had fold equity.
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10-21-2009 , 08:59 PM
I would've shoved PF in both spots, maybe raising 1/3 of my stack to set up a Go n Go but I don't like doing that as much when we're IP.

As played I think I like the line in H#1 as a bunch of his range missed, and we fold out AQ-AK almost always. H#2 I don't like it as much because a wider # of Tx comprise villains range here, but the sizingi s OK because it looks a bit stronger than an AI tbh. His CB % is high enough though where its likely +EV w/ our overcards + good FE, I usually fold though, but OK w/ reads.
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10-22-2009 , 10:51 PM
bump for more thoughts
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10-22-2009 , 11:00 PM
I agree I'd prob be jamming in both spots as well. But as played very well played and putting pressure on opponents. Those type of flops miss a lot of their ranges and hits a lot of yours. Very well played.
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10-22-2009 , 11:07 PM
I can't see myself not 3betting pre on the 1st hand tbh. On the 2nd hand you can pretty much 3bet or flat pre. If you feel he missed on the flop, I think you can still make it like 7k and fold if he shoves leaving yourself with 10k (and obviously I think this would be very exploitable), but I can also see a shove because a fold from him gives you another 7k to your stack which would be awesome for you (I would personally shove if I'm raising there).

I strongly disagree on the 3bet shove pre as someone posted above. Reshipping 30bb+ just vs a raise and no callers is too much of an overshove to justify what you're gaining with folds and you're never getting called with worse, so I don't think that's a good play.
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