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Two pairs against the raised turn Two pairs against the raised turn

09-14-2015 , 05:33 PM
Hi, I would like to post here my hand, which I played in a small 6-max turbo 1,5K$ GTD live tournament. I had a pretty soft table with an one tight regular and rest were unpredictable weak players with lot of pre-flop limps and loose range... you know it...

I was really active at the table, took many pots either pre-flop, or on flop. I had about 38 000 in chips and this hand I raised Q5 from CO at the blinds 150/300/25 to 900 and got call from really loose player on the button. I knew, he liked to see many flops with a wide range and the most likely in a limped pot. In last game, he caught my bad-timed bluff with top-pair-no-kicker over my busted draw.

Hero 37 000
Villain 46 000

Flop 456

I bet 1 500 to protect my hand, because I should take away many broadway cards and got quickly call.

Turn: Q Pot(5400)

I bet 3500 and the player after few seconds raised to 11 000. The move, he did, at that moment seemed little bit weird, but he was representing really narrow range in contrast to hands, he was playing for a while and I decided to call.

River: 456Q2 Pot(27400)

I had about pot behind and checked to my opponent, who decided to go all-in. I wasn't sure, if he might to do that with any 7 or if there might be some bluffs in his range. On the other hand, he was representing only something like 78, maybe set of 666 or 444, because I don't think, he could do that with two pair like Q6 or 54 and as I said, his calling range against my raises was wide. In the end I folded.

How should I play this hand better? Should I better check the turn and pot-control the board. Was the main problem my bet-call on the turn and fold to river shove? How often can I be better against player, I know is a fish, but don't know enough to predict his potential bluffs?

Thank you for your help guys.
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09-15-2015 , 01:25 AM
Don't think betting 500 on the flop is much protection for your pair of 5's tons of hands are calling that bet on that board. The Queen on the turn is unlikely too have helped your opponent so he had to have slow played something on the flop, which doesn't make much sense either since straights and sets are raising that flop, unless he had the absolute nuts and was trapping you. 34o makes some sense that he could have but why he would decide to raise the turn rather than the flop makes little sense either. The line he took basically ways down to the nuts, or nothing. He's never doing this with a worse 2 pair, better 2 pair, or a set, so it's either a bizarre bluff or a straight. If he is more on the loose side of playing than the straight is obviously more likely than a random bluff.
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09-15-2015 , 06:21 AM
So I range villain as follows. He seems like a limpy/loose weak/passive who isn't doing this w/ much air, etc.

Behind: 44,55,66,Q6s,87,32s = ~ 29 combinations
Ahead: Q4s,54,65,64s = ~ 16 combinations

For sake of easier calculation just make it 30 way behind, 15 way ahead, so we need about 2:1 to justify making a call. It seems like we are when he raises, which puts us at a t7500 decision in a t19900 pot. So getting ~ 2 1/2:1 on our money, it seems like an OKish call, but if you consider reverse implied odds OTR if he makes another PSB it's not so good. We'd need to be about 30% immediate pot equity and be sure he wasn't shoving the river most times to justify a call of his C/R. But after a c/r OTT line you have to assume follow up aggression OTR most times.

I might be getting something wrong but close enough. Fold OTT.

Last edited by Powdered Toast; 09-15-2015 at 06:31 AM.
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09-15-2015 , 06:27 AM
Also you shouldn't be betting to "protect your hand" as much as its about "protecting the pot". The starting pot-to-stack is about 16:1, so it's sort of thin to commit w/ TPGK (maybe even TPTK depending), let alone mid-pair, but its worth stabbing for, so really you're quasi semi-bluffing often w/ mid-pair, which isn't worth much beyond backup to your CB/initiative. Your CB is fine but remember why you're doing things.
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