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10-30-2009 , 01:00 PM
We have arrived
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10-30-2009 , 01:20 PM
dont get mad at me matt savage
btw i forgot you have 25/25 level which is alright and makes up for the 3k chips.

still think your tournaments are awesome mid/end game play was pretty deep

but why would a little bit more chips make a structure worse?
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10-30-2009 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jigglypuffz
dont get mad at me matt savage
btw i forgot you have 25/25 level which is alright and makes up for the 3k chips.

still think your tournaments are awesome mid/end game play was pretty deep

but why would a little bit more chips make a structure worse?
Never mad at Jiggly as you are one of my strongest supporters

More chips gives you more play early and less mid to late!

Did you read the article I wrote for 2 + 2?

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/i...ournaments.php

Shhhhh.... The Fish like ME like it that way!

No Gimmicks, Is Jason D. still the head honcho around there?
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10-30-2009 , 01:33 PM
What would your perfect Structure and Series be??? Be creative and remember Main event is going to be either 750-1070....No Heads up ...and no PLO as of now....

Yes I am serious call it customer appreciation lol
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10-30-2009 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Savage
Never mad at Jiggly as you are one of my strongest supporters

More chips gives you more play early and less mid to late!

Did you read the article I wrote for 2 + 2?

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/i...ournaments.php

Shhhhh.... The Fish like ME like it that way!

No Gimmicks, Is Jason D. still the head honcho around there?

Yes Matt he is here sitting in his office as I throw darts at the wall...
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10-30-2009 , 01:49 PM
good read matt, makes sense
keep doing what you are doing sir
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10-30-2009 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wisconsinfan
GFY
NO U! i saw u edited it i wonder what u said first

mike u need to bring back the 50/75 level imo
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10-30-2009 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chrismystero
would def go (since i have infinite free time) but cant cross the border from Canada to US now without a passport afaik. Used to be able to with birth cert. and Drivers Licence, pretty sure the passport is a must now and im too lazy to go through the process
get it done so i can hitch a ride for the first weekend or something. even compared to my slack schedule you have me dominated.
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10-30-2009 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dstazy100
pretty sure i just got a passport and the process was easy as ****, cost 100 bucks (will last 10 years) and took 2 weeks to recieve.

Snow Percent in november in upstate new york....obv high




driverseat u gonna make another appearance at the stoneee
Probably not this year, gotta finish up my supernova elite grinding for the year, I've been slacking lately. After that who knows, it's quite a trip from Houston to go back up to New York without something else going on around school to see old friends. It's also cold in NY right now.

Last edited by driverseati; 10-30-2009 at 04:39 PM. Reason: Realized how good the weather is down south right now
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10-30-2009 , 05:50 PM
I have received a few emails and some good ideas I have permission to run with this.... Let me kno0w what you like guys....
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10-30-2009 , 05:55 PM
we can have whateva we liiiiiiiiiiiike
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10-30-2009 , 05:57 PM
The absurdity of the Turning Stone Super Stacks series
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10-30-2009 , 08:27 PM
the real matt savage itt
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10-30-2009 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dstazy100
the real matt savage itt
Much Love for Turning Stone, The Lodge, and the Chocolate Dipped Oreo's!

I have to get you guys from believing more chips make for a better tournament experience

Structures come down to 4 variables IMO and chips are 3rd out of 4th

1. Levels
2. Time
3. Chips
4. Player ability

I can make a tournament with 1,000 in chips last 5 days and a tournament with 1,000,000 in chips last one hour.
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10-30-2009 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGimmicks
I have received a few emails and some good ideas I have permission to run with this.... Let me kno0w what you like guys....
Mike I have a couple of ideas, some of which are easy and some of which I know are almost impossible but throwing them out there. I told them to you earlier but expanding here for clarity.

Please have fewer chips, that would be great, I honestly think the old structure of 2500 with a 50-75 and 100-200, 100-200-25 level would be sick (also 1200-2400 ldo) for all of the prelims. I think there should be variable level lengths for the events, maybe like 30 mins for 200s/300s, 40 mins for 400s/500s and 50/60 mins for the main or 1k prelims.

A 6 max or HU tournament (or both ideally) in Jan would be awesome, you may as well do this at 1kish because I doubt many locals will play those formats anyway.

Pleassse anything but Holdem, I don't think theres been anything but hold em at TS in like 4 years and that should change. Mixed games and at least PLO would differentiate this from most small tourney series locations and drum up a lot of interest, like definitely a PLO, horse would be cool. Things like that could bring in people who wouldn't otherwise play and they might play all of them.

The satelite system is pretty bad, giving away seats has helped but pushing STTs or a steps/act system like foxwoods might be able to make a 3k/5k work which could be pretty sick. Having a tiered satelite system to must play seats could make big events viable again, big events bring in more players, more players will play prelims, it works from the top down.

I <3 nogimmicks.
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10-30-2009 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WRR1986
Mike I have a couple of ideas, some of which are easy and some of which I know are almost impossible but throwing them out there. I told them to you earlier but expanding here for clarity.

Please have fewer chips, that would be great, I honestly think the old structure of 2500 with a 50-75 and 100-200, 100-200-25 level would be sick (also 1200-2400 ldo) for all of the prelims. I think there should be variable level lengths for the events, maybe like 30 mins for 200s/300s, 40 mins for 400s/500s and 50/60 mins for the main or 1k prelims.

A 6 max or HU tournament (or both ideally) in Jan would be awesome, you may as well do this at 1kish because I doubt many locals will play those formats anyway.

Pleassse anything but Holdem, I don't think theres been anything but hold em at TS in like 4 years and that should change. Mixed games and at least PLO would differentiate this from most small tourney series locations and drum up a lot of interest, like definitely a PLO, horse would be cool. Things like that could bring in people who wouldn't otherwise play and they might play all of them.

The satelite system is pretty bad, giving away seats has helped but pushing STTs or a steps/act system like foxwoods might be able to make a 3k/5k work which could be pretty sick. Having a tiered satelite system to must play seats could make big events viable again, big events bring in more players, more players will play prelims, it works from the top down.

I <3 nogimmicks.
QFMFT. What happened to having like a $1500 6max, didn't something like that exist a few series years ago?
Will Romaine irl... <3 this guy's ideas
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10-31-2009 , 01:26 AM
Mike make the tournies structure somehow so less internet players make the final table. I hate playing the final two tables of these live tournaments with all internet regs.
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10-31-2009 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dstazy100
Mike make the tournies structure somehow so less internet players make the final table. I hate playing the final two tables of these live tournaments with all internet regs.
The best will obv make the FT's more often, so changing the structure wont do too much. My structure ideas in a previous thread were perfect imo. Made it faster in the beginning and slower towards the end while still keeping the tourney in the same time frame.
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10-31-2009 , 05:46 AM
just a fwiw i profited like $1,500 on the trip after way to much in food/room/etc costs and taxes were taken out. Also like like 5-6 buyins in the $500 game. That, plus I only had 45%.

But yea, still lost wayyyy too much being a degen.


Anyway now that that's out of the way, see ya'll at the FT!

Last edited by rmthawk64; 10-31-2009 at 05:46 AM. Reason: or at least 9 of you clowns
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10-31-2009 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGimmicks
What would your perfect Structure and Series be??? Be creative and remember Main event is going to be either 750-1070....No Heads up ...and no PLO as of now....

Yes I am serious call it customer appreciation lol
badugi one time?
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10-31-2009 , 01:54 PM
This would be my proposed series with structures:

Mon Event 1: $300+x Deepstack Turbo NLH (20k chips 20 min levels)

Tues Event 2: $300+x NLH (5k chips 40 min levels)

Wed Event 3: $400+x NLH 6max (6k chips 40 min levels)

Thurs Event 4: $200+x + 1 rebuy + 1 addon NLH (Or $500+x NLH if 1r1a cant be done). (2.5k chips + 2.5k chips + 3k chips 40 min levels)

Fri Event 5: $700+x NLH - 6 max for final 30 players. (10k chips 45 min levels)

Sat Event 6: $1000+x (or $1500) 6max NLH or same as friday's if you think it will draw more appeal (15k chips 50 min levels)

Structure:

25/50, 50/100, 75/150 :BREAK: 100/200/25, 150/300/25, 200/400/50 :BREAK: 300/600/75, 400/800/100, 500/1000/100 :BREAK: 600/1200/100, 700/1400/200, 800/1600/200 :BREAK: 1000/2000/200, 1200/2400/300, 1500/3000/400 :BREAK: 1700/3400/400, 2000/4000/500, 2500/5000/500 :BREAK: etc...
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10-31-2009 , 02:03 PM
<3

Last edited by WRR1986; 10-31-2009 at 02:03 PM. Reason: plz do everything he said
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10-31-2009 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineTech
This would be my proposed series with structures:

Mon Event 1: $300+x Deepstack Turbo NLH (20k chips 20 min levels)

Tues Event 2: $300+x NLH (5k chips 40 min levels)

Wed Event 3: $400+x NLH 6max (6k chips 40 min levels)

Thurs Event 4: $200+x + 1 rebuy + 1 addon NLH (Or $500+x NLH if 1r1a cant be done). (2.5k chips + 2.5k chips + 3k chips 40 min levels)

Fri Event 5: $700+x NLH - 6 max for final 30 players. (10k chips 45 min levels)

Sat Event 6: $1000+x (or $1500) 6max NLH or same as friday's if you think it will draw more appeal (15k chips 50 min levels)

Structure:

25/50, 50/100, 75/150 :BREAK: 100/200/25, 150/300/25, 200/400/50 :BREAK: 300/600/75, 400/800/100, 500/1000/100 :BREAK: 600/1200/100, 700/1400/200, 800/1600/200 :BREAK: 1000/2000/200, 1200/2400/300, 1500/3000/400 :BREAK: 1700/3400/400, 2000/4000/500, 2500/5000/500 :BREAK: etc...
Michael, if you add a 700-1,400 and a 1,700-3,400 please lose my email address
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10-31-2009 , 02:12 PM
matt you're the man but shhhhhh, those levels would make me come to TS no matter what
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10-31-2009 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Savage
Michael, if you add a 700-1,400 and a 1,700-3,400 please lose my email address
I mean those were just my thoughts, I created that structure 5 months ago. Definitely didn't steal anything from you and dont think I've played a tournament directed by you. Sorry either way though, definitely did not mean to take any ideas from you.

EDIT: The 6max from final 30 players might have been your idea? Forgot where I remember seeing that, but it may have been something from you.

Last edited by DickFuld; 10-31-2009 at 02:22 PM.
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