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09-25-2013 , 10:47 AM

Proudwalker

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,244

Winamax - €9+€1|75/150 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 276.67 BB
Hero (BB): 132.33 BB
UTG: 141 BB
UTG+1: 132 BB
MP: 109.33 BB
MP+1: 131 BB
CO: 7.5 BB
BTN: 126.83 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) T

Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (40 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero checks, BTN bets 26.67 BB, Hero calls 26.67 BB

villain is bad

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09-25-2013 , 01:58 PM

Synth

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Originally Posted by Proudwalker

villain is bad

Can you be more specific? Any reads or stats to suggest he is "bad".

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09-25-2013 , 02:23 PM

Proudwalker

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not any sophisticated read just that he limped a couple of times

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09-25-2013 , 02:45 PM

mathiace

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Hard for a passive player (based on pre action) to have a worse value hand to bet two streets here. The three diamonds should scare him aswell. It is BTN v BB tho, so in some cases this may be a thin call. Against some random scrub fish I can't see him value betting worse a lot, and bluffing as seldom, so I think it's a fold most of the time. The thing is that he will prob check back QJo on the river, scurred of the flush.

Edit: btw betting turn is fine, and would change the entire dynamic in the hand. Kind of read dependent when u go freestyle with the check on the turn

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09-25-2013 , 03:22 PM

daniel707

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Preflop sizing seems fine, flop bet i would bet like 3.5-4-5BB

Turn is just fine, i believe he would check, a weak Q behind aswell.

River i fold, many draws have completet.

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09-25-2013 , 03:40 PM

L0DDENThinks

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Bet less on the flop imo, around 4.5/5bb.
Turn isn't great for us but I wouldn't fold here, calling is fine, villain might lead out with worse Qx hands here, possibly J10 109 etc with a diamond and just the A/K of diamonds.
On the river i'd be worried, this bet basically wipes out the hands i've previously said in his range, he's repping a made flush, an 8 or a straight, more likely a flush imo. Folding is best option here.

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09-25-2013 , 05:54 PM

Dragons_Egg

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I also think you can bet a bit less on the flop.

When he calls your flop bet I'm putting the bulk of his range as an 8, a Q or a FD.

The turn seems a pretty terrible card for you against that range. C/c'ing seems okay to me with your equity with the Kd.

I would fold now to the river bet. Your read on villain is that he's generally passive, and he's taking a strong line now since the turn.

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09-25-2013 , 09:54 PM

all_in_pockets

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On the turn you really want to keep control of the pot , so check calling is the best option IMO. villians range 8x j10s,J9s , qx possible flush/straight draws which may have completed. Betting here will just get you into a tricky spot.

As played:

OTF - 1/2 pot bet
OTT- C/C
OTR- Fold

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