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Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street

08-24-2010 , 11:15 PM
no reads

unsure of my line everywhere...I know it sucked so no need to rehash that

offer me better lines please

Full Tilt Poker $28,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 8 players
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LoOseAAgReSSivE (MP2): t2900 48.33 BBs
ICED VEINS (CO): t3420 57 BBs
Mammola (BTN): t3410 56.83 BBs
HoozYoDaddy (SB): t3670 61.17 BBs
Hero (BB): t3000 50 BBs
SleepySally (UTG): t2955 49.25 BBs
fainer7117 (UTG+1): t3215 53.58 BBs
VBILLER (MP1): t5453 90.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BB with A Q
1 fold, fainer7117 calls t60, 2 folds, ICED VEINS calls t60, 1 fold, HoozYoDaddy calls t30, Hero checks

Flop: (t240) 3 A 4 (4 players)
HoozYoDaddy checks, Hero checks, fainer7117 checks, ICED VEINS checks

Turn: (t240) K (4 players)
HoozYoDaddy bets t240, Hero calls t240, fainer7117 calls t240, ICED VEINS folds

River: (t960) 4 (3 players)
HoozYoDaddy bets t540, Hero calls t540, fainer7117 raises to t1320, HoozYoDaddy raises to t3370 all in, Hero folds
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-24-2010 , 11:23 PM
Raise pre. Bet flop. Fold river. I hate your line too!
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-24-2010 , 11:24 PM
p3 nailed it
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-24-2010 , 11:29 PM
Raise preflop. As played lead out for value and to thin the herd. Wouldn't mind checking a weaker Ace but we're going to put money in post so much of the time and betting is best if we're gonna do that
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-24-2010 , 11:36 PM
raise pre I get

when we lead flop here are we just bet folding? if flatted do we keep betting bricks?

sorry but I obviously need a poker 101 refresher on OOPlay
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-24-2010 , 11:59 PM
i def tihnk you shpuld bet, dont like bet/folding much but i guess could be right, you wouldnt be in such a ****ty spot with a raise pre ss!!
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:07 AM
yep b/f flop!

Last edited by sunnydunerz; 08-25-2010 at 12:19 AM. Reason: raise before the 3 first cards come down!
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:16 AM
I think flop may or may not be bet/fold after we raise preflop. 240 pre makes about 600 in, once we bet the flop (hard IMO to like 450). I might call a raise all done by a player last to act. It may be ace-worse kicker with a diamond, random naked ace, combo draw with a gutshot/FD.

go MSMTT
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:59 AM
I would definitely bet/fold the flop in a limped pot, but I would also raise big preflop.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 09:43 AM
raise pre, hard to see how it cant be profitable to raise it up.

flop is meh multiway. in a raised pot i def cbet it.

am i a nit for just fold it OTT? i guess i am but he pots into 3 players and there are just a few cards to improve our hand, 2 players yet to act which we have to fold to readless as well
+ if he bets river as well i dont know if we can call.

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raise pre. as played fold turn imo.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 09:47 AM
p3rc4 tho
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Chuck
p3rc4 tho
Seriously, I would say that this guy is just on his A game at 10 in the morning, but then he would correct me and say that its actually 2pm in europe and he's been awake grinding life for 72 hours.

As for how the hand played out I would just b/f flop to a normal sized raise. Might c/f turn if you get 2/3 callers even if the turn is a blank.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 11:00 AM
I'd definitely fold ott as played
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 11:16 AM
raise pre b/f flop I take

Call turn as played
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qazikm2000
Seriously, I would say that this guy is just on his A game at 10 in the morning, but then he would correct me and say that its actually 2pm in europe and he's been awake grinding life for 72 hours.
Lol this post is hilarious.

Actually ssnyc, I think you can just check flop. Every hand that peels has >50% equity versus you and you bloat the pot oop. Turn call is fine. River is a fold.

So I actually think you made 1.5 mistakes! .5 for pre and 1 for river call. That's not *that* bad, stop berating yourself!
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 11:55 AM
checking pre is fine.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:15 PM
jjyykk how can every hand he peel with have > 50% equity?
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dereds
jjyykk how can every hand he peel with have > 50% equity?
This, people will call with much, much worse on the flop.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:33 PM
Pot's almost played HU river. 3rd man in the back will normally fold (Get away from his missed draws, Kqx,)

2-1 for the bluff's decent after we and 3rd man show weakness.

Getting 3-1 I would have a hard time escaping river. Can exclude AA,44,KK,AK, 25 (from guy behind) <Qx flushes

We have A4,34,33,K4 which is still quite narrow. Give him cred for way its played but prize seems fine
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THEOSU
checking pre is fine.
Uhhh why?
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 12:59 PM
because i don't like playing 50-60 BB deep OOP in a bloated pot?
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 02:13 PM
hand plays sooooo much different if you raise pre...and i raise very large there the pot is good size i go std 3x+1+OOP tax-value for my hand bein good...280 to go
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 02:23 PM
yeah, you're a lot more likely to stack off if you raise pre.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 02:28 PM
Yeah because isolating with likely the best hand and hitting won't get bad players to spew.
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote
08-25-2010 , 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THEOSU
yeah, you're a lot more likely to stack someone if you raise pre.
goes both ways...maybe we stack off on this board but 2 diamond flops much more common than 3 diamond flops

i'm raisin this pre a lot it's +ev
Tilt... 28K...Toppest pair Q kicker OOP on paired mono board...I hate my line every street Quote

      
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