not enough vanilla, too many random formats and not enough high stakes tournaments in the schedule. as most people expected i guess but at what point will you guys consider not inventing new pointless formats any more? when every single tourney on stars has an individual tag between the [] brackets?

there are some live tourneys with fairly fast structures nowadays, mostly to cater to high stakes recreational players. its safe to say that there is a >0% demographic of recs who dont have the time to play a 2k 2-day online tournament but will flick in a few big red turbos. why not give the high stakes recs and regs something they can get excited for too? many of them will barely make an extra effort to play during TCOOP.

on a sidenote, i think formats with big bounties aren't suited for games where equities run very close, e.g. PLO. its a gamble fest, when you cover people you are inclined (its maxEV) to bloat pots with most of your hands, trying to get lucky. there isnt much strategy beyond that and i dont think you want poker to go into that direction. maybe its fun for some ppl to 3bet 25% and flatting any four vs shortstacks, but i always thought the format was horrible.

I'd be happy to do so if I was responsible for MicroMillions, but I'm not. I don't work on that series. To the best of my knowledge, MicroMillions is not gone for good, it's just not running this November. As for this thread, the subject here is TCOOP. I understand that players are concerned about MicroMillions, but this thread really isn't the place for discussion about it and honestly I'm not the best source of information on the MM series in any case. I'm always willing to help with anything/everything, and I've transmitted the concerns I've read to my colleagues and manager, but that's the extent of what I can do on this. Let's return to TCOOP, please...

My pleasure.

I don't understand the need for the negativity, honestly. TCOOP has never been an overall high-stakes series... and in terms of getting "more ppl to log in", high stakes isn't the way to go, in any case. Overall, the buy-ins sit about halfway in between WCOOP and SCOOP-Medium. That's still the case, though the buy-ins are slated to increase significantly from 2015 to 2016, with the total initial buy-in for 2016 at the moment being $9,593.50, an increase of 13.5% over 2015's total of $8,452.50. Having said all of the above, there are high-stakes opportunities throughout the schedule, and I've already mentioned in this thread that I can easily see changing one of the $215s in the schedule to a $215 Rebuy.

In terms of big prize pools, based on what we have so far, I think we'll see seven-figure prize pools in Event 01, Event 16, Event 47, and of course the Main Event. I think it's also possible that we'll see very large pools in some other events, though a lot will depend on the events to which players are drawn, etc. As for a $1,000+ Ultra-Deep tournament, I can see that as a possibility, though the question then becomes where to put it. We have one already on the final Sunday at $215. I don't want to put a $1,050 up against the Main Event, and I don't want to put one up against the $700 PSKO on the first Sunday, either. I could see perhaps taking Event 34 and converting it from a $215 Optional Re-Entry to a $700 Ultra-Deep Turbo... that might work. It's definitely worth considering, but again, it could easily be considered without the negativity involved in describing the entire series as underwhelming, etc. Not everyone who plays TCOOP wants to play high-stakes, and I tend to think that Event 01 is going to blow the doors clean off and really kick things off with a seriously big bang.

can we please get a spin n go event? just like heads up knock out event winner proceeds to next round FT is 3 people, winner take all or top 3 payed for added degenism!! or put a normal % payout struc w/e will be a quick event generate alot of interest from reg and fish alike = rake and would be heaps of fun

It's not that I hate TCOOP persay, I just wish we had a WCOOP Challenge this year. Those weeks are always so much fun. Stuff like KO week, etc I think should happen more often. I feel like you guys miss out on some fun promotional opportunity.

"added degenism" & "championship" do not really belong in the same sentence, even in TCOOP... so while I could see something like a 3-Max Shootout, having it be winner-take-all would be a bit much for a *COOP, any *COOP, in my opinion. A 3-Max Shootout would be fun, though, I think. I've considered it for previous series (and future ones, as well)... it might be good for TCOOP. Others' thoughts?

Don't understand how you think I'm being super negative, and instead of just berating it (I don't think I even berated anyway), I offered some additional tournaments that I thought could potentially work well within the schedule. Unlike some other posters, I also take into account that PS attempts to drive action to certain tournaments and there's not enough liquidity to have #AllNiceThings that many of the mid-hs players would like to have. I know I am "harsh" often but I never make a negative post w/out at least leaving some additional ideas/changes I would like to see or think could potentially work, but whatever.

Event 34 change sounds like it could be nice, could also make it a $530 bi if you didn't want it to be quite so large. Think anything, $700, $530, $320 cubed would go quite well given the event will start a few hours after the $1050 Thurs Thrill.

Or that next day Friday for example, there are back to back $215 bi's, yes one is an ante up and I think $215 is a nice buyin for that, but what about making event 37 a $530 6max? You have 5cd and flhe before and after the nlhe events, so plenty of focus could go to making both the $530 event 37 and $215 event 38 quite large. Anyway, just a couple of ideas!

Phase main event sucks

schedule needs more 109-215 vanilla and give us at least one 109c

please save the ultra/total knockouts for non turbos (same goes for prog KO in general but w/e)

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Apologies for the misunderstanding, for me, and I'm sure many other tournament players, deeper and better are fairly synonymous.

I don't play a lot of the regular HS turbos because I don't see them as a good investment but I will probably play a decent amount of these. The only problem I'd have with a phased main event is if its a re-entry format. 1 entry per player for the main and you can pick your day 1, non of this firing 9 bullets crap at the very least capped to 3 entries.

I'd like a couple more ultra-deeps and I don't really get the logic of making event 46 a ultra-deep re-entry. If you insist on re-entry tournaments leave them to the higher variance tournaments like the hypers, short stacks and big antes, no need to make the standard and deep TCOOP events a re-entry.

No triple draw? I'm no good at it but I'd still like to play it.

yeah tcoop def the best place to implement it as its hyper structure, look how popular the supersonic is i think it would get big DO IT bryan you know it makes sense

[QUOTE=BryanS-PS;48526022]I'd be happy to do so if I was responsible for MicroMillions, but I'm not. I don't work on that series. To the best of my knowledge, MicroMillions is not gone for good, it's just not running this November. As for this thread, the subject here is TCOOP. I understand that players are concerned about MicroMillions, but this thread really isn't the place for discussion about it and honestly I'm not the best source of information on the MM series in any case. I'm always willing to help with anything/everything, and I've transmitted the concerns I've read to my colleagues and manager, but that's the extent of what I can do on this. Let's return to TCOOP, please...


ok ty


My pleasure.


I don't understand the need for the negativity, honestly. TCOOP has never been an overall high-stakes series... and in terms of getting "more ppl to log in", high stakes isn't the way to go, in any case. Overall, the buy-ins sit about halfway in between WCOOP and SCOOP-Medium. That's still the case, though the buy-ins are slated to increase significantly from 2015 to 2016, with the total initial buy-in for 2016 at the moment being $9,593.50, an increase of 13.5% over 2015's total of $8,452.50. Having said all of the above, there are high-stakes opportunities throughout the schedule, and I've already mentioned in this thread that I can easily see changing one of the $215s in the schedule to a $215 Rebuy.

In terms of big prize pools, based on what we have so far, I think we'll see seven-figure prize pools in Event 01, Event 16, Event 47, and of course the Main Event. I think it's also possible that we'll see very large pools in some other events, though a lot will depend on the events to which players are drawn, etc. As for a $1,000+ Ultra-Deep tournament, I can see that as a possibility, though the question then becomes where to put it. We have one already on the final Sunday at $215. I don't want to put a $1,050 up against the Main Event, and I don't want to put one up against the $700 PSKO on the first Sunday, either. I could see perhaps taking Event 34 and converting it from a $215 Optional Re-Entry to a $700 Ultra-Deep Turbo... that might work. It's definitely worth considering, but again, it could easily be considered without the negativity involved in describing the entire series as underwhelming, etc. Not everyone who plays TCOOP wants to play high-stakes, and I tend to think that Event 01 is going to blow the doors clean off and really kick things off with a seriously big bang. [/QUOTE]

3-max shootout sounds like a great format for TCOOP

The phase main is just an idea to get the maximum amount of recreational players into the final without having them lose too much $ to T grinders via sats.

Considering other cost saving measures that Stars has implemented it's not a bad idea.

buyins are to low and i'm not a fan of the main being a phase.

request for higher buy in plo8 and nlo8 please

Love TCOOP, the other COOP's are such an intense grind with super slow structures (Add more turbos please but thats for another thread) -TCOOP is a fun refreshing change.

I would always like to see at least a few additional big buy in events; make the Super Tuesday & Thursday Thrill special Turbo-TCOOP versions.

I really like the idea of the Phase Main Event, I'm in favour of just about anything that increases the pz pool and this would obv make the main event MASSIVE.

Thanks Bryan

confirmed interest

$82 $200k spin n go tcoop. (3m shootout hyper) vamooooooo

Hi Bryan

Hello again, everyone. Discussions continue as feedback pours in, and we're up to Version 6 of the schedule. Significant changes have taken place since I last posted the schedule, so I thought I'd share the most current version for your consideration... so, here it is...

TCOOP 2016 - Tentative Schedule (Version 6)

Thursday, 21 January 2016

10:00 ET -- Event 01: $27 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Final Phase 2]
14:00 ET -- Event 02: $82 NL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max, Turbo]
16:00 ET -- Event 03: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Progressive Super-Knockout]
18:00 ET -- Event 04: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo]

Friday, 22 January 2016

08:00 ET -- Event 05: $27 PL Omaha [6-Max, Turbo, Rebuys]
10:00 ET -- Event 06: $82 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Shootout]
12:00 ET -- Event 07: $27 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Rebuys]
14:00 ET -- Event 08: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Big Antes, Optional Re-Entry]

Saturday, 23 January 2016

10:00 ET -- Event 09: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Zoom, Optional Re-Entry]
12:00 ET -- Event 10: $7.50 NL Hold'em [4x-Turbo (Rebuys)]
14:00 ET -- Event 11: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Heads-Up]
16:00 ET -- Event 12: $82 NL Single Draw 2-7 [Turbo, Optional Re-Entry]
19:00 ET -- Event 13: $33 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Saturday Speedway SE]

Sunday, 24 January 2016

08:30 ET -- Event 14: $215 NL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max, Turbo, Progressive Super-Knockout]
11:30 ET -- Event 15: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo]
12:30 ET -- Event 16: $700 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Progressive Super-Knockout]
13:30 ET -- Event 17: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Optional Re-Entry]
15:30 ET -- Event 18: $82 PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout]
18:30 ET -- Event 19: $215 NL Hold'em [Hyper-Turbo, Sunday Supersonic SE]

Monday, 25 January 2016

08:00 ET -- Event 20: $82 PL 5-Card Omaha [6-Max, Turbo, Rebuys]
10:00 ET -- Event 21: $27 NL Hold'em [4-Max, Turbo, Zoom, Progressive Super-Knockout]
12:00 ET -- Event 22: $82 FL Omaha Hi/Lo [8-Max, Turbo]
14:00 ET -- Event 23: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo, 10-Stack]

Tuesday, 26 January 2016

12:00 ET -- Event 24: $82 PL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max, Turbo]
14:00 ET -- Event 25: $215 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Turbo, Progressive Ultra-Knockout]
16:00 ET -- Event 26: $27 Stud [Turbo]
18:00 ET -- Event 27: $27 NL Hold'em [2x-Turbo (Rebuys)]

Wednesday, 27 January 2016

08:00 ET -- Event 28: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Optional Re-Entry]
10:00 ET -- Event 29: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Shootout, Progressive Super-Knockout]
12:00 ET -- Event 30: $7.50 PL Omaha [6-Max, 3x-Turbo (Rebuys)]
14:00 ET -- Event 31: $82 Stud Hi/Lo [Turbo]

Thursday, 28 January 2016

12:00 ET -- Event 32: $7.50 NL Hold'em [6-Max, 3x-Turbo (Rebuys)]
14:00 ET -- Event 33: $82 Razz [Turbo]
16:00 ET -- Event 34: $700 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ultra-Deep]
18:00 ET -- Event 35: $82 PL Omaha [6-Max, Turbo, Progressive Ultra-Knockout]

Friday, 29 January 2016

08:00 ET -- Event 36: $82 NL Draw [Turbo, Optional Re-Entry]
10:00 ET -- Event 37: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Rebuys]
12:00 ET -- Event 38: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ante Up, Progressive Super-Knockout]
14:00 ET -- Event 39: $82 FL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo]

Saturday, 30 January 2016

10:00 ET -- Event 40: $215 HORSE [Turbo]
12:00 ET -- Event 41: $215 PL Omaha [Turbo, Heads-Up]
14:00 ET -- Event 42: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Zoom]
16:00 ET -- Event 43: $215 NL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo]
19:00 ET -- Event 44: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Saturday Speedway SE]

Sunday, 31 January 2016

07:00 ET -- Event 45: $109 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Turbo, 1R1A]
10:00 ET -- Event 46: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ultra-Deep]
12:00 ET -- Event 47: $2,100 NL Hold'em [Turbo, High-Roller]
13:30 ET -- Event 48: $530 8-Game [Turbo]
15:30 ET -- Event 49: $700 NL Hold'em Main Event [Turbo]
18:30 ET -- Event 50: $215 NL Hold'em Wrap-Up [Hyper-Turbo, Deep, 1R1A]


Thank you as always for your feedback. Please keep it coming.

you have a 700 on thurs but why not on tuesday also... maybe have a 530 for tues?

Bryan,

It looks like PL/NL O8 lost a few events this year. There doesn't appear to be any tournament below $82. A $7.50 3x turbo and/or a $27 n-stack would help fill this void.

Iirc, there was a $27 Courchevel H/L event last year.

What about doing this...

• Move Event 25 to Thursday at 16:00, change it to $530 or $700
• Move Event 26 to Tuesday at 14:00
• Move Event 34 to Tuesday at 16:00.

That'd align the two $700 turbos with the Super Tuesday and Thursday Thrill... turbo versions at 16:00 ET for those audiences.

Result:

Tuesday, 26 January 2016

12:00 ET -- Event 24: $82 PL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max, Turbo]
14:00 ET -- Event 25: $27 Stud [Turbo]
16:00 ET -- Event 26: $700 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ultra-Deep]
18:00 ET -- Event 27: $27 NL Hold'em [2x-Turbo (Rebuys)]

Thursday, 28 January 2016

12:00 ET -- Event 32: $7.50 NL Hold'em [6-Max, 3x-Turbo (Rebuys)]
14:00 ET -- Event 33: $82 Razz [Turbo]
16:00 ET -- Event 34: $700 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Turbo, Progressive Ultra-Knockout]
18:00 ET -- Event 35: $82 PL Omaha [6-Max, Turbo, Progressive Ultra-Knockout]

...?

Might need to shuffle Event 35 with something else, too... hmmm.

Anyway, what do you think?

Maybe replace some other event with event 35 but in NLH?

lots of tables atm but looks good to me. how about for event 35 nlhe 82 6m super ko